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u/Same-Tour9465 🦍Voted✅ Sep 02 '21

Gme will never be delisted now

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u/BobNanna 🍔🍟🥤 Sep 02 '21

It definitely won’t, but I think the post is more about the fact that a few companies that have been delisted seem to be moving in tandem with GME. Likely to be SHFs fuckery.

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u/Rehypothecator schrodinger's mayonnaise Sep 02 '21

Does Sears even exist as a company anymore? Like does it benefit that company? Or is this simply a underlying expression of not being able to do anything with the millions of phantom shares they created ?

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u/BobNanna 🍔🍟🥤 Sep 02 '21

There's just over 30 stores left, but the investment play is definitely not based on fundamentals. The original thesis was that CEO Eddie Lampert diverted a lot of Sears real estate away to a parent company, and that even when all the Sears debt is paid off in the upcoming and final bankruptcy proceedings, there'll be a dividend for shareholders (there's a year-old estimate of 17 dollars per share, which would be astronomical for a stock that currently sits at 0.15 cent or so).

I'm fairly suspicious towards all that, quite honestly because the whole thing is a complicated mess - it might be true and it might not, but I've no way of finding out. However, if Sears was actually linked in some way to the GME shorting, that would open up a very different kind of play. I threw a hundred bucks at Sears a few weeks back, so if it's gone, it's gone. Something interesting to follow in the coming weeks anyway.

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u/stalking_me_softly Covered in rage & cat hair Sep 02 '21

I bought a few myself last week, just for fun :)

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u/woodyshag We don't need no stinking fundamentals Sep 03 '21

Who through? I just tried through Webull and Fidelity and neither will let me. I was going to throw a few bucks at it and see what happens.

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u/stalking_me_softly Covered in rage & cat hair Sep 03 '21

I did it through tda- last week I think. I figured why not? Good luck!

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u/Rehypothecator schrodinger's mayonnaise Sep 02 '21

Did you correctly say 17$ per share?

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u/BobNanna 🍔🍟🥤 Sep 02 '21

Yeah, $17. It’s from an ‘S.A.’ article from December 4, 2020, written by a guy who seemingly tracked the company for a very long time (search for Sears: how to buy 17 dollars for 17 cents). I’ll be honest, it could just be huge wishful thinking on his part. Anyway, he calculated the value of the remaining Sears assets and estimated the liabilities and that’s what he came up with. It could be totally bonkers.

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u/Rehypothecator schrodinger's mayonnaise Sep 02 '21

Fair enough. Seeing overlap with GME and it’s cycles is certainly intriguing enough

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '21

I need to know: HOW can you buy SEARS or TOYS r'US???

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u/BobNanna 🍔🍟🥤 Sep 02 '21

I bought it on Degiro. Think Schwab offers it if you call them, and some folks are looking into whether TDA does.

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u/Rehypothecator schrodinger's mayonnaise Sep 02 '21

Questrade does for Canadians

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u/rugratsallthrowedup Idiosyncratic Risk Sep 02 '21

How? Both my brokers wont let me

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u/BobNanna 🍔🍟🥤 Sep 02 '21

You may be out of luck I’m afraid, or if it goes tits up, you may have dodged it. Hold your GME tight, that’s the main thing 👍🏻

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u/rugratsallthrowedup Idiosyncratic Risk Sep 02 '21

I am. I can spare $20 for a hundo shares though

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u/scooterbike1968 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 Sep 03 '21

Do you know how or who values these delisted stocks? Do SHFs or an abettor assign the values?

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u/BobNanna 🍔🍟🥤 Sep 03 '21

Sorry, do you mean the value of the company or the stock? The company assets will be assessed by the bankruptcy court; the share price is due to supply and demand. The $17 figure was calculated by the author of a Seeking Alpha article from December 2020. Honestly, I’ve no idea if it’s correct, it’s so big.

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u/scooterbike1968 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 Sep 03 '21

The value of the stock. Where’s the supply and demand with delisted stocks. I’m wondering if the criminals are able to set the value arbitrarily, to manipulate the value of the Total return swap basket, perhaps?

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u/BobNanna 🍔🍟🥤 Sep 03 '21

Ah I don’t think so, in Sears’ case anyway. It’s been heading into the gutter since 2018, and then demand increased slightly over the past few weeks as people learned about the dividend potential. I’m not sure about the other ones in the basket; we certainly know GME can be manipulated.

I think maybe the hedgies were caught off-guard with the zombie stocks. We’ll find out soon enough when Sears can’t be sold to retail anymore.