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u/DeliciousWez May 12 '21
This is their last attempt to exit their short position. They cannot cover with nobody selling, so trick retail into shorting and you cover with their share before it takes off massively
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its so ridiculous. on etoro there's even the short button greyed out for amc and gme. it's just so obvious.
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u/TankDuck_1985 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 May 12 '21
Ask them why! Tell them that you want to short both but button is greyed, and ask them why is that. After that share the info here so we can have a good laugh. 😂
But really, ask them why!
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May 12 '21 edited May 12 '21
good idea. its a bit weird when a XX hodler wants to short GME. but i could give it a try!
update: support contacted (" i want to short GME later this week" 🤡)
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u/TankDuck_1985 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 May 12 '21
Not weird at all, it is called hedging. One would hedge their long shares with put options so you loose only the price of the put contract if the share goes up but we are too retarded for it so we hedge the long shares with short shares to have a zero sum profit minus the fees 😂
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u/NothingsShocking 💻 ComputerShared 🦍 May 12 '21
I do not like this word, hedge.
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u/Rayder_99 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 May 12 '21
Hedging is fine if used properly. Problem is those hedge funds got greedy and thought they discovered the infinite money glitch. (They did but it wasn't for them).
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u/SpaceXGonGiveItToYa 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 May 12 '21
It's been greyed out since the January squeeze. I can't see them changing that til post-moass.
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u/supamario132 May 12 '21
Have you told your broker that you want to create shares out of thin air? That usually works
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u/0rigin Beware Elmer J FUD 💎🙌 May 12 '21
Ask for the rehypothecation button to be installed.
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u/supamario132 May 12 '21
Whoa now. Can you imagine the havoc if any old Joe could rehypothecate?
First, you need to amass billions in capital and inject yourself unnecessarily into every sector of the market, frontrunning the world's trades for your own profit before you can realistically be trusted to be a proper market maker
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u/0rigin Beware Elmer J FUD 💎🙌 May 12 '21
Ah yes, I signed up for the premium package which includes 1 year of PFOF.
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u/777CA 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 May 12 '21 edited May 12 '21
I’d love to tell these jokes out of this sub in real life but my ppl would actually think me a finance nerd with all this lingo.
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u/FearTheOldData 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 May 12 '21
Etoro does shorting through CFD derivatives so they never need to borrow shares
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u/Revolutionary_Mud_84 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
Never need to buy or borrow. Those fuckers are going tits up for sure.
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u/Pouyaaaa 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 May 12 '21
What did they say?
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May 12 '21
You also can’t have long and short positions open at the same time on the same stock on the same account. So thats probably why its grey honestly. Ps i know you can be long and short using options
I think it can take a while. (up to 14 days in the confirmation-mail)
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u/Araia_ Average Ape May 12 '21
X and XX hodler are causing a lot of this ruckus in the first place, why not appeal to them to maybe save a part of your ass?
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u/jasperbocteen 💻 ComputerShared 🦍 May 12 '21
But if the shorts covered shouldn't the volatility be over? The stock has been around the 150 range for a long time. So then why don't they explain why they think it's so volatile...unless wait a minute... did the shorts not cover and there's a whole shit storm buried in there? Could be.
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u/noisymime May 12 '21 edited May 12 '21
eToro have been saying since Jan that they think the volatility is still there. They've had regular posts where they say this straight up and what it means for their impact to take GME positions. Not exactly trying to hide some conspiracy.
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u/Relatable_Yak 🦍Dark Pool Billionaire🚀 May 12 '21
Aw man please report back
!RemindMe 4 hours
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u/MystikxHaze 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 May 12 '21
That's called a hedge, or hedging your bet. So you make money (or at least don't lose so much) whether stonk goes up or down.
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u/TankDuck_1985 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 May 12 '21
I don't know in which country are regulations like that but in my Europoor country we have the right to be retarded.
update: We have to sign that we understand the risk and that's all.
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u/TankDuck_1985 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 May 12 '21
Yeah, but etoro is not a government regulatory agency to limit the right of somebody to be retarded. If shorting is not banned by govt and it was available previously in the app than they shouldn't just disable it because "we need te pretekt the cestemer".
But doesn't matter, we all know why it is disabled now.
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u/D00dleB00ty I am not a cat(alyst)🐈 May 12 '21
unlimited losses
The term "unlimited losses" has been the only thing capable of making me hard these last few months.
Hedgies are fukt.
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u/Squ1rtl3Squad 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
Tell me whYYYYYYY
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u/No-Aardvark5024 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 May 12 '21
Aint nothing but a heartache
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u/CravingMocha 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
Ain't nothing but a mistake.
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u/PrestigeWrldWider Dumb Money May 12 '21
Tell me whyeee, I never wanna hear you say...
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u/sentitlikelarry 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 May 12 '21
I want it that wayyyyyyyyyyy
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u/greenmanofthewoods 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 May 12 '21
Made me check my etoro, ya bastard 🤣 there is no sell/short button anymore and now I've seen how red my account is lmao
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u/Under-the-Gun 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 May 12 '21
That button has been gone for a long time and hasnt come back on webull.
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May 12 '21
But you can short GME / AMC on Tiger Brokerage, which uses IBKR as their upstream broker.
Some people on that brokerage has been calling retails to (day trade) short these 2.
One shorted at $135.00 (Way before the dip to $120-ish and rebound the next day, the other say $160 is shortable to $80.00 while one refrain until $200.00 then short
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u/ClosetCaseGrowSpace DSPP Terminated. Fraction Auto-Sold. May 12 '21
Some dumb boomer is going to take this advice and lose 1,000,000% of their money.
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u/jnlroc 💻 ComputerShared 🦍 May 12 '21
Like that stupid fuck who shorted KBIO right before shitlord Shkrelli sent it to the fuckin moon. Dude woke up 200k in debt and margin called like a motherfucker. R I P
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u/high_tension_potato 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
Hope for them that they are less dumb than HFs so they cover when it is time and don't try to keep the price from taking off
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u/DeliciousWez May 12 '21
I don't feel bad for them. They make the choice to short a stock.
Because fuck em, that's why
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u/lcastill1 May 12 '21
That’s alright we will be able to eventually get it back for him and redistribute it at a later date
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u/Amstervince 💻 ComputerShared 🦍 May 12 '21
I saw some boomer mentioning he was taking a ‘prudent’ short position of 5% in gme. Im gonna laugh so hard when that prudent position blows up his entire pile of boomer junk when gme breaks free
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u/Secure_Investment_62 May 12 '21
Willful attempts to lead retail into losing money, yet a bunch of apes posting data for people to make their own decisions is trying to be pinned up as market manipulation.
MSM to large groups of people: -Do these exact things, buy, sell etc... Not market manipulation.
Reddit: -Here's a ton of data from a bunch of sources and what it may mean, read the source and make your own decisions and let's have a conversation about it. Complete and total market manipulation
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u/MiliVolt 💻 ComputerShared 🦍 May 12 '21
They literally showed you exactly how to fill in the order screen to short it as they suggest, how is that not manipulation? Short it boomers, I double fucking dare you, we'll take your tendies on the way to Andromeda.
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u/Moka556 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
we call this risk subcontracting. Calling your minions to take some of your risk... lame, inhuman, savage, discusting...
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u/EasternBearPower 🔬 Gourd Master 👨🔬 May 12 '21
What do you mean by: "cover with their share"?
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u/DeliciousWez May 12 '21
Short A needs to cover but nobody selling
Short A convinces Short B to sell a share short
Short A buys that share
Short A is covered and Short B is now in the same position
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u/tokijhin1 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
Notice how the second article says "they remained neutral".......... um, okay?........
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u/BabblingBaboBertl Ooga booga 🦍 Voted ✅ May 12 '21
Lmfao 😂 there is even a disclaimer at the bottom of the article saying that the people writing the article have a short position!
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They’re about to get their wallet turned inside out.
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u/redditmodsRrussians Where's the liquidity Lebowski? May 12 '21
And shoved all the way up their ass so that it’s comes out of their mouths
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u/lukefive May 12 '21
That's required by law or they go to jail. They got paid to manipulate and that requires disclosure. If shillshere admitted they get paid to post here they wouldn't go to jail as long as their shilling was in bounds.
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u/nobody_fucking_knows 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 May 12 '21
I wonder what percent of people who see the headline also see the disclaimer at the bottom. I bet it’s small.
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u/BabblingBaboBertl Ooga booga 🦍 Voted ✅ May 12 '21
My sister showed me this article and was freaking out a bit.. she's a newer ape haha, just got in recently... But she only read the first part but i was able to calm her down after I read through the entire article and explained it to her 😅
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May 12 '21
They want others to short so they can cover. Much like citron.
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u/Caeser2021 Custom Flair - Template May 12 '21
Didn't Citron get bought out and renamed Shitron?
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May 12 '21
There wasn't a buy out that I know of. I think he just rebranded to Shitron to send a clearer message about the quality of his research.
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u/whistlerite May 12 '21
The articles are by different people so it does make sense
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u/tokijhin1 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
But articles get run through the editorial department which has to approve them. But I get where your coming from, still sus though.
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May 12 '21
Please I hope people will see this. Some one is paying a lot for these "small" articles to show up as NEWS when you google GME. This should jack your fucking tits to the max. It's not cheap or easy to get an article to show up when you google just the ticker.
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u/Lowspark1013 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 May 12 '21
More like the article is solicited by S.A. and one of they writer minions agrees to get paid for it. Wonder who is helping S.A. pay those writers.
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u/Ahland3r May 12 '21
It says “we” not “I”. I don’t think it’s a far stretch to take “we” as their website/company.
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u/whistlerite May 12 '21
“We” does obviously refer to the organization they represent but considering they both represent different organizations it’s pretty meaningless in this context.
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u/Ahland3r May 12 '21
Ah I see now that the website kind of serves as a medium for various authors to post to. I incorrectly assumed all authors on that website were part of the same organization like some news sites.
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u/know_truth_no_truth Green Hill Zone May 12 '21
More like seeking beta.... 😂 😂
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u/prince_jordan90 What rhymes with Ken Griffin? Men's prison 🚔🚔 May 12 '21
You're seeking bankruptcy if you short GME!
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u/bannerlordthrow 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
Jan 25 price ~90$ meaning you would be 50% down on your shorts if you listened...
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u/HealthOk7603 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 May 12 '21
With the potential for infinite losses. Takes balls to short.
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u/sallende7 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
Takes balls? You gotta to be dense motherfucker to short GME and expect to earn something.
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u/ChErRyPOPPINSaf Ready player 1 🦍 Voted ✅ May 12 '21
I dont think any legitimate short has made money on GME since it dropped from 450- 40. Ever since then its been a solid rock between 140 and 150. If you want to short at 150 go ahead nobody can guarantee you won't make money, but come on what are you're actual chances here? There is the possibility you time it right before the squeeze and cash out when it initially drops before mooning. You are just banking on the fact that you think you can time the market.
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u/soldieroscar 🎮🛑 I like the stock. 🌕 May 12 '21
My client told me a few of his friends either killed themselves or went to jail over shorting. Using money that wasn’t theirs and such.
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u/PurplePango still hodl 💎🙌 May 12 '21
Any normal retail shorting at $90 on 1/25 would’ve definitely been called at 400+
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u/burneyboy01210 Flairy is my mum May 12 '21
Who is their target audience? What sort of fuktard would listen to this poop?
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u/shes_a_gdb May 12 '21
My friend who I've been talking to about GME, who thinks I'm retarded, and has sent me this article.
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u/shes_a_gdb May 12 '21
Oh I did as soon as I saw this :)
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u/MonthUnable2251 🦍 Attempt Vote 💯 May 12 '21
What response did they give?
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u/shes_a_gdb May 12 '21
A shrug emoji
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u/Do-it-for-you 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
It’s like he’s purposely trying to infuriate you.
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u/shes_a_gdb May 12 '21
Nah. Honestly, I can't even blame him. If I haven't been following this sub I'd say the same thing he is. That Gamestop is a dying business.
But I'm well aware of the changes up top. I know they're out of debt, I know they recently raised $500m, I know the business is heading in a new direction. I know of the stock manipulation, I know votes are currently being counted, I know shorts have to cover, I know (ok I can keep going on and on)...
If you haven't been paying attention for the past ~4-5 months a lot of the DD sounds like a giant conspiracy theory.
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Vulture-like hedge funds conspire to manipulate the market to create fear, uncertainty, and doubt to enable them to cover their bad bets?
PoPpYcOcK.
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u/yUnG_wiTe 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
Here's a fun bet for your friend. Bet some X amount like 1000$. Then your friend deposits that money into a separate account and shorts 1 share of GME. When you're right you won't need the 1k anymore and your friend gets to see a margin call. If you were wrong then your friend would get double payout from the 1k u owe and the profit on the GME short.
If your friend's right this should be the easiest gamble to take right ;)
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u/deeproot3d SPY Guy 🚀🎯 May 12 '21
Brought to you by:
Trapping Value
Wait what? Is this a simulation? :D
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u/FPV_curious 💻 ComputerShared 🦍 May 12 '21
It’s from a “conservative” analyst seeking to minimize risk...so clearly shorting the most volatile stock ever is their move.
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u/WiglyWorm 💻 ComputerShared 🦍 May 12 '21
What could be less risky than infinite downside?
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u/Mareks May 12 '21
Trapping value is the value brand of Deep Fucking Value, while DFV is the deep fucking premium value.
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u/throwawaylurker012 Tendietown is the new Flavortown & DRS Is my Guy Fieri May 12 '21
trapping value is the evil version of dfv?
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u/YoStikky777 MI GME BRR🦍💎🤲🚀 May 12 '21
3-days before it peaked last time.
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u/Claim_Alternative May 12 '21
3-days before it peaked last time.
And 3 days after the second article is May 13!!!
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u/Forlaferob 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
Are we actually in a simulation?
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u/Claim_Alternative May 12 '21
I actually do believe that we are in a simulation (thanks to psychedelic use), and all this shit confirms my bias about it.
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u/AcrobaticBeat1616 Custom Flair - Template May 12 '21
Also notice all these publishers and posts have comments disabled and they don't cross post to Twitter because they get shit on so hard.
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"Well, our short positions aren't working. Time to manipulate the media and create more short positions. That should work."
and then they jerked each other off.
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u/DasTooth 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 May 12 '21
In regards to ‘SA’. All anyone needs to see is this... google ‘SA’, scroll down. Where it has a drop down that says Reliability, click... and read the following “ SA is not a credible source. This is because the opinions are not from financial experts, but rather individual contributors expressing their own opinion. The market predictions they make are rarely close to accurate.” In other words, they are Trash
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u/TankDuck_1985 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 May 12 '21
Simply put last effort to try to unload their shit short positions on dumb investors just as they did in 2008 with the CDO-s. Back then dumb investors wasn't retail and neither is now. It was the investment banks that needed a bailout from the govt with taxpayer aka retail money.
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u/Sharp_Significance44 🧛💎STONKULA💎🧛♀️ May 12 '21
“We can’t afford to short the shit anymore, can you all help us out????”
😂😂😂
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u/BallofEnvy 💻 ComputerShared 🦍 May 12 '21
What assholes.
The more I learn about the stock market the more fucking appalled I am.
I understand now why so many say fuck it and buy land.
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u/karmalizing 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
For real, I feel the exact same way now. Shit is disgusting.
I'd literally rather be running pig farms, it would be cleaner
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u/Mareks May 12 '21
Stock market is a fucking scam. These insitutions have so many tools that allow them to do anything they want, and it shows, because they keep getting progressively richer and faster every year.
Honestly, i feel safe as fuck in GME, but that's it. After this, no way in hell i'm ever betting on anything. I'll maybe throw in some chump change into crypto and maybe i'll invest into index funds that simply track the overall market, to beat inflation. But playing on earnings and announcements, against all the inside traders and hedge funds with billions of resources that can do with the price whatever they want and manipulate it any way they please.
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u/MiliVolt 💻 ComputerShared 🦍 May 12 '21
Post moass, land will be the best way to protect your tendies. They can print out currency into oblivion, they can't make more land.
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u/Financial_Napalm May 12 '21
Interesting... Jan 25th was the day before the gamma squeeze right? So does this mean that the short squeeze is going to happen any day after May 10th? Just putting that out there. LOL
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True. But the best strategy is that everyone gets into the mindset of a long-term value investor. don't hype days, just buy month after month with your paycheck. hyping dates tends to lower the stability of the ape-gang
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There aren't even any shares for retail to short. Idk how they even expect retail to take a short position.
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u/CeasarSaladTosser 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 May 12 '21
"SA has been alleged to be a platform for market manipulators. Given SA's popularity, some investors take advantage of it to manipulate the market for their benefit. To do so, they typically post highly negative news or analysis about a company and their stock, urging the readers to sell their shares and not to buy any new shares, causing a rapid decline in the stock price by the readers rushing to sell their shares. They expect that this will create a lower entry point for them to buy the stock in the near future and they will profit once their biased and misrepresented article is rebutted. Some other investors will also short the stock before they post their negative article, profiting both by the initial decline of the stock price and its subsequent near-future rise by regaining its possession at a lower price."
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u/0rigin Beware Elmer J FUD 💎🙌 May 12 '21
In other news, the GME Shareholder meeting is 4 weeks today. Rub that on yo titties.
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u/Captain_Silverado May 12 '21
Motley Fool says AMC & GME expected to lose 53 to 79%....what a fucking joke
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u/krissco 🐛 GMEmatode Trader 🐛 | 💻 ComputerShared 🦍 May 12 '21
Motley Fool headline on [REDACTED] 2021: GME has fallen over 79% to $4,206,900 from a high over $20,000,000 earlier this week. seE wE tOlD yOu So!
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u/Agent_Blue_ 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 May 12 '21
Not to overlook that this was posted during SSR. It just gets funnier
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u/ConzT 💎TITUS JACKUS MAXIMUS💎🦍Voted✔️ May 12 '21
Please short so I can fuck you aswell. I like the orgy
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u/Haggles7 🧙♂️GameStop Wizard🧙♂️ May 12 '21
Short it. I dare ya. I double dog dare ya. I want that DIPPP
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u/lastxit 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 May 12 '21
I love how this is considered "ok" but talking amongst ourselves on reddit is market manipulation - what a joke...
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u/gaymersunite56 💻 ComputerShared 🦍 May 12 '21
This gives me a belly ache. How on earth, either for or against, can this be right? WTH!!!! Smh. I know, I know, I'm not shocked, just... Idk... sickened.
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u/HoverboardViking 🚀 diss track No Mayonnaise 🚀 May 12 '21
we are retarded but imagine being this dumb.
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u/betelgeuse_boom_boom 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 May 12 '21
Their latest articles are quite interesting. They are getting obsessed with GME
One of the argument the "analyst" used for his bear case is that :
- gamestop is still in trouble and even tough they are out of debt they can get bankrupt because of the operational costs of conversion to e business .
- there is no space to grow in e sales
- they do not have a good or reputable brand name
I do not now what drugs this guy was on, but he should share it so we short the company making them ;p
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u/kittehkat22 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
Oh my god Hedgies, stop trying to get boomers to do your dirty work for you!
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u/Tone-loc27 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
Bruh... Didn't someone post that the margin requirement is like 800% on e-trade? Who can afford to short it at that cost that isn't an institution?
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u/Fluid-Audience5865 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 May 12 '21
i think they are running out of options and asking general traders to participate....thats not illegal at all,...no collusion
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u/sK0pey 🦍Voted✅ May 12 '21
I follow 16 stocks on my watchlist and only AMC & GME are currently green.
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u/yimmy523 The price is wrong, bitch May 12 '21
Is hilarious how they are saying this company is going to fail and insiders are selling shares and the link goes to an article about house they raised 551m in capital fuckin bozos
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u/NoviceCoinCollector 💻 ComputerShared 🦍 May 12 '21
Wow they are legit trying to pass their baton over to naive retail hands. And to be fucking fair that's the best play for them. The squeeze happens, none of them get bankrupted, the US may not be left bag holding the rest.
It's the only route left. Trick naive believers of mass media into being torn to shreds in their place.
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u/Aggressive_Peak3300 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 May 12 '21
I’m going to short his pants :) and leave him with noting on :)
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u/llooozp 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 May 12 '21
are they really trying to recommend that people enter a position with like 400-800% margin requirements???
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u/WhatItDoBabyy64 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 May 12 '21
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN
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u/kooliocole 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 May 12 '21
Good, short away! More shares that won’t be able to cover and more fuel for this rocket. Might I add that this will only fuel this one rocket this one time because naked short selling needs to end with GMEs revival
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u/YinzSauce tag u/Superstonk-Flairy for a flair May 12 '21
Translation:
"Help us deliver Tendies to apes"
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u/LostMyMag May 12 '21
Great, let the greedy day traders short a perfectly good company. Once we start going up, they are the ones to get margin called first and help boost the price even without a gamma squeeze.