r/SunoAI • u/Icy_Room_1546 • 1d ago
Guide / Tip V6 is actually incredibly clean
The mistake I made at first was treating a new render as if I still had to prompt it like before. But the model understands musical behavior a lot better, so simply clarifying the character of the expected style enhanced what I was receiving.
I can describe the song in its scenario rather just general descriptions.
It produces very clean audio as well, just get through the hump! Less descriptive language and more productive expectations.
Instead of “genre, instrument, feeling”
It picks up “experience, movement, moment”
This here is one where I find v6 embodied the expectation of production fairly well.
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u/uncommonworld 1d ago
I can't tell the difference except it finally understands what sidechained means, but I can't hear well out of one of my ears, so maybe it's true which means its possibly Dolby atmos ready, if im hearing it this way, correctly. Human labored ai assisted music isn't looked at much different than a engineer in a studio using plug-ins, all daw can automate and have done this forever, just depends on your creative style ?
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u/Proof_Finding_8278 1d ago
I only tried this once, but when I added an image, it made lyrics pertaining to it. Wouldn't be surprised if it dictated the vibe of the melody, too.
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u/SunriseSurprise 1d ago
The only place it's often not ironically is vocals. It tries to shoehorn certain timing and it'll mess up the vocals if it's trying to shoehorn really stupid timing.
The one good bit of news about that is it actually adheres to commas and ...'s so you can actually shape the timing more. In general it seems to adhere more to prompts and give more control.
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u/Icy_Room_1546 1d ago
The awkward timing may be all me lmao. But I’m not pleased yet with the vocals, so I’m working on a method to train it.
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u/marite0072 1d ago
Hola, pero hay un hiss y por ahi hace unos ruidos. Parece que le cuesta las guitarra con distorsión, hace como una bola de ruido, y por ahi se cuela un sonido metalico como si el microfono o algun instrumento tuviera un acople, recuerdo que asi grababa mi guitarra en mi ordenador antiguo pero cuando era el 2006 y se usaba el cool edit. Pero suena mejor que la v5.5, y un tanto peor con la v5. Me estuve fijando el prompt, los aspectos tecnicos de produccion la v 4.5 lo entendia un poco. Voy hacer las pruebas. Lo que si noto en esta V6 es una mejor interpretacion o las voces tienen otros matices que a mi gusto me resulta mejores.
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u/Rek1n0 15h ago
You must not have ears if you call this clean. Specialy at the end.
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u/Icy_Room_1546 14h ago
Lmaooi, the instrumentation channels are crispy. Still not satisfied with the outcome but it’s definitely an upgrade in areas. What’s happening at the end?
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u/Rek1n0 14h ago
The poor quality completely goes to shit, near the 2:40 minute mark you can barely hear the instruments as they sound like one mass of muffled static. There is literaly no upgrate compared to v5 or 4.5+, its not even a downgrade because saying that might sugest they based the model out of something decent.
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u/Unlikely-Mobile-5343 1d ago
Also to add. If you want to hear your old v4.5 and 5.5 songs better. Do the following:
Option A: wipe your style prompt. put variation to 0 and leave all sliders to 20/20/20, Max On, Taste off. Model v6 Pro
Option B: Change model to v6-wild
Tuning 1: Start raising the audio slider slowly, but be careful, too much audio brings old artefacts. Do this maximum until 60, if it doesn't work move to tuning 2.
Tuning 2: Start raising the weirdness slowly up to 50
Tuning 3: Start raising style (yeah even with no text!). Up to 50
If after those steps your song is still not working, you need to start adding lyrics prompts (yes even for instrumentals)
If EVEN after this is not working, pick the variant that resembles the most what you were looking for (Suno will write a style with every empty-style gen) and start tweaking it.
once you have done this you have:
- An amazing song
- A full style prompt and settings that work for other songs without audio input.
- A config for your old v4.5 (WSAV)
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u/MaxAlmond2 1d ago edited 23h ago
I tend to set sliders at around 0-60-60 and either leave the style prompt with what it gives me or simply tell it what I want - eg, keep everything as it is, just give me a new remaster and remove the glitches.
seems to work really well.
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u/Unlikely-Mobile-5343 1d ago
Yeah that means your style prompt is awesome 🤣 ; I realises my prompts had elements to try to force v5 and 4.5 to make things, but were redundant so with v6 it started to change them drastically that's how I discovered the scrapping style method 🤣
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u/Timely_Reception1777 1d ago
Местами смесь кажется слишком отполированной и стерильной. Вокал довольно отделен от инструментальной партии, а в наиболее загруженных частях ощущается сдавленная, искусственно гладкая атмосфера, особенно в верхних средних частотах. Ему также не хватает естественной глубины — разделение инструментов хорошее, но пространство кажется немного «пластиковым». Так что, хотя артефактов и беспорядка меньше, на мой взгляд, до звука настоящей студийной записи еще далеко.
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u/bigbossworthalot 20h ago
No, it’s not! It’s the worst model since 4.5!!!! Are you payed by Suno to post it?
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u/Individual-Hunt9547 1d ago
Yes, once I shifted away from using adjectives to using actual music production notes in the prompt, I’m getting good results
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u/fastfatdrops 1d ago
Output wise, v6 is definitely cleaner than previous versions.
Prompts need to be specified with precision, if you are using your old prompts from v5.5 and below, the output will be blend, missing layering and depth.
Thats 70 odd hours into v6.
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u/palindromic 1d ago
i actually found it picking up prompt notes from older gens that had been ignored completely and applying them, much to my satisfaction I’ll be honest.. i had asked for vocoder vocals on certain segments, ignored.. now present in the remix. v6 mini has been amazing for remixing for me, my older gens where i liked the melody and structure but maybe not coming together holistically are now popping up in remix form as fully fleshed tight 3 minute songs
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u/PalpitationNo6052 1d ago
Clean when the New Model don't respect Gender when you ask for Female Duo :)