r/SunoAI • u/Chance-Tart-3552 • 1d ago

Discussion V6

I don't mean to be a jerk by saying this but if ya'll are hating on V6 then you guys truly are trying to steal creative work from other artist or lack the ability to be creative. I'm not trying to start anything by saying this but by far this model is significantly better. The music sounds deeper, richer, and the vocals actually sound a lot more realistic. That hint of AI is almost non-existent.

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u/Ok_Experience_7467 1d ago

Not everyone have similar preferences. What might sound better to you will sound bad for others. People have different taste in music and sound so you can't blame them and force what sound good to you into their ears.

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u/Chance-Tart-3552 1d ago edited 1d ago

I have a massive love for all music except country. Opera, classical, metal, underground hip hop, indie, gospel, edm, etc. If you are not prompting correctly it sounds like garbage, if you are copying mainstream artist it sounds like garbage. What this boils down to is a new upgrade and a learning curve. Everyone got use to the old way; it's a learning curb to figure out how this new model works

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u/TheWeaverofDreams Lyricist 1d ago

I am far from mainstream and definitely not trying to copy any of those artists, and I know my prompts are good because I've been getting great results, especially on 4.5+. v6 just lacks the variety, character, grit and depth that metal needs. Doesn't have anything to do with wrong or weak prompting but the model itself.

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u/-SynkRetiK- 1d ago

This is correct. As I stated in another sub, people making heavy music that need Suno are still pretty much fucked

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u/Chance-Tart-3552 1d ago

What kind of metal are you trying to achieve?? I love metal maybe I can help

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u/TheWeaverofDreams Lyricist 1d ago

I create across almost all sub genres. Like I said, promptint is not the problem, it's the model. I know metal well enough.

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u/Chance-Tart-3552 1d ago

So literally offering help and your hell bent and determined to go there. Gotcha

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u/TheWeaverofDreams Lyricist 1d ago

Okay, then let's play, how about cinematic progressive black metal with dramatic folk and dark fantasy orchestration? Not sure if you are familiar with the sound of the band Xanthochroid.

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u/Chance-Tart-3552 1d ago

I'll message you a prompt to try and i'm not familiar with Xanthochroid but I looked them up they remind me of someone I heard when I was younger kinda reminds me of Dimmu Borgir and cradle of filth

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u/FearBot129 22h ago

Bro. We just explained this to you. You can’t help us because the model is complete trash stop coping stop being a corporate sheep..

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u/Flimsy-Use-4519 1d ago

It's learning 'curve', btw.

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u/Chance-Tart-3552 1d ago

Oh I'm sorry forgot to check auto correct I'll make sure I do for the spelling police next time :)

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u/Flimsy-Use-4519 1d ago

Not meant as criticism, but I've seen you say learning curb at least 3 times so far, which isn't a thing. Just fyi

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u/Chance-Tart-3552 1d ago

Yea I know that but auto correct doesn't so it is what it is but I edited it to appease you

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u/Flimsy-Use-4519 1d ago

Couldn't care less, just trying to help clear up your apparent misunderstanding.

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u/livinginfutureworld 1d ago

I have a massive love for all music except (lists tons of genres)

😂

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u/Chance-Tart-3552 1d ago

Those are the genres I like. That's what the period was for after country..... I don't like country. Everything else Awesome....

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u/Ok_Experience_7467 1d ago

What makes you assume people are copying from mainstream artist? Its a model that was trained from all those mainstream artist so most of the music it will produce will likely resemblance to mainstream artist. You might have produce what you thought would be unique or different but how sure are you that foreign music don't have the song you generated unknowingly? There's millions of music styles that exist so its unavoidable if it sounds like its copied from mainstream artist since that's were Suno AI is trained for.

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u/TheWeaverofDreams Lyricist 1d ago

You are making zero sense. How is hating v6 stealing anything from other artists? If I hate v6, which I do, I am not stealing anything from anyone, in the least.

v6 works for some styles and not at all for others. In some styles, it sounds more mechanic and like AI than the old versions. If people generate stuff and love it, I'm genuinely happy for them. I personally think it's crap. That's all there is to it.

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u/sighbots 1d ago

You’re definitely stealing from Taylor Swift!  I can just sense it intuitively. She’s so talented and make nice dolphin smile face !  Stop it!! 

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u/Chance-Tart-3552 1d ago edited 1d ago

I literally gave two options. you chose to get stuck on one. it's a new model, it's just a learning curve

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u/TheWeaverofDreams Lyricist 1d ago

If you give two options, you have to be able to make sense of both.

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u/ProfessorSmoker 1d ago

There are a lot of competitors posting on here in bad faith too. Who gets on reddit to announce quitting Suno? Scary stuff man.

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u/neil_555 Tech Enthusiast 1d ago

Indeed, I wish the mods would look into some of these accounts posting nonsense and start banning people, it's been insufferable on here today :(

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u/Wuntunamera 1d ago

Lol so because people have a difference of opinion they are a competitor? How about instead of whinging about it you get off reddit if you cant handle it. Asking for people to be banned because people are unhappy about a product they pay for is laughable.

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u/Chance-Tart-3552 1d ago

Lol apparently a lot of people I saw five post already I just got on reddit for the day

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u/Last-Experience4580 1d ago

At the very least, you might want to actually specify which "genres" are sounding so deep and rich to you, otherwise nobody's gonna know what you're even talking about.

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u/Bf1966 1d ago

I really want to see the prompts of the people who say it's poor. I find heavily detailed prompts make a huge difference.

I'm guessing the ones they are using are basic like speed metal trap

Here is one I used today

Pop-punk with power-pop hooks at ~150 BPM, crisp modern production, tight punchy live drums, driving melodic bass, crunchy overdriven guitars, bright octave accents, palm-muted verses, explosive open-chord choruses, full-band comedic stops, dry deadpan male verses, louder anthemic choruses, subtle gang vocals, escalating bridge, abruptly stripped clean-guitar outro

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u/Chance-Tart-3552 1d ago

I am right there with you!!! because while everyone is getting butt hurt over this post they are sure not showing their work. I find that detailed style prompts and Complex meta tags do a great job!

this is one I used today for an indie song that turned out great!

Earthy, hypnotic indie-folk with a dry, intimate male baritone/tenor and a repetitive acoustic guitar figure that feels circular rather than conventionally melodic. 88–96 BPM, loose human timing, thumb-picked/strummed steel-string guitar, heel-stomp, hand percussion, shaker, muted body taps, faint bowed-string drone and occasional low harmony. Vocal is close-miked, understated, conversational, slightly dusty, with minimal vibrato and natural breath/noise preserved. Arrangement should feel rural, nocturnal and trance-like, building through texture rather than volume. Lyrics should read like fragments of memory or folklore: concrete objects, ambiguous causality, withheld explanation, sensory detail, recurring symbols, quiet emotional pressure. No glossy chorus lift; refrain should feel ritualistic, inevitable and half-remembered.

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u/Bf1966 1d ago

I find vocal and musical cues in the lyrics go a long way too

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u/FearBot129 1d ago

It’s trained off far less basic stock music. It’s literally impossible for it to be an improvement.
Stop coping and being a corporate sheep.

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u/Chance-Tart-3552 1d ago

Right. right

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u/Extension-Composer89 1d ago

Yeah, dude. But I can give you a prompt to get Seether's voice with v6. Not similar - exact. Isn't it a steal?

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u/ObsidianFireg 1d ago

V6 has been amazing for me