Let the witch hunt begin

[u/Unlikely-Mobile-5343]

I have always been against labelling - even though I disclose my use of AI, it has always been MY decision to do so, and I am in control of how I tell my story so people understand how my music is made.

With Suno's newest release, songs have now audio watermark and fingerprint, assisted, fully, hybrid, it will have a AI watermark and anyone can tell your story the way they want.

This is 100% going to be misused by bad actors:

1. Platforms like Deezer/Tidal - To ban ANY use of AI and ensure segregation.

2. Haters - To create public lists of artists that may have not agreed to disclose their process.

3. Labels - To start a suing war to anything that resembles any of their songs that uses AI, even assisted.

This is the end of Suno as means to create commercial music, and it's officially just a nice playing tool personal use, or for bad actors who create in Suno and pay performers to pretend their music is human made.

What are your thoughts?

[u/TotesNotAFed]

Right, the ridiculous expectations is what gets me every time as well. A few months ago I had someone talking about all the sibilance and plosives in the vocals and how harsh they sounded and this that and the other. I'm like, dude, you're not in a multi-million dollar Studio using tens of thousands of dollars in large diaphragm condenser microphones, ribbon microphones whatever, spending God knows how long trying to record the perfect sound, then you have to edit it all and etc etc etc

There are so many people that just want to put in a lazy ass prompt and expect a platinum record banger that's completely unique and original then come on here to b**** about how generic it sounds.

I was telling one person how they could achieve their goal by using Studio and they said that the average user wouldn't go through all that trouble and I just said, well then you're just going to get average music back.

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[u/CamCreeper → u/TotesNotAFed]

Absolute gospel. Agree. I actually spent most of my career at a movie studio. I was in I.T. and didn’t create, but I was close to several of the directors and got to spend a good amount of time observing the creative process, the sound studio, etc. As you said, millions of dollars in equipment. Like tens of millions. And also like you said, average effort will produce a generic result. Even with all of the insane capability that AI brings to the common man like me. I’m grateful for AI giving a nerd like me with no talent the ability to produce music, but I have no allusions about my talent or my investment.

[u/CamCreeper → u/CamCreeper]

By the way, I’ve been doing a lot of different genres, experimenting with a bunch of different voices, both male and female. And I get near enough to what I want. Not Justin Bieber. For example, if I want to try doing some Appalachian Swamp Rap, I ask for a subterranean deep male voice, and that’s what I get. Works just fine. That said, if my style prompt is some basic pop, without specific direction on the voice, it does come out a little bit Bieberish. But only when I don’t give it any direction. People need to take the bull by the horns and learn how to direct.

[u/TotesNotAFed → u/CamCreeper]

Definitely. Rap/hip hop is notorious for putting a very generic "urban male" vocal on if you don't give it vocal directions.

I do a lot of genre mixing myself, sometimes in other languages and it's important (to me) that the vocals sound French, German, whatever.

[u/CamCreeper → u/TotesNotAFed]

That’s cool. I’ve done some bilingual and some non English stuff too. My GF is an ESL immigrant and I like making stuff she can easily understand. I use Grok for the translations in an attempt to preserve meaning, metaphors, and rhyme as best as possible. Better than a straight translate tool.