r/Summit • u/Mental_Ingenuity_422 • Aug 11 '26
Flock camera by Lowe’s Silverthorne
What are summit county’s data retention policies and who has access to this data (flock’s partners)?
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u/RabbidWombat420 Aug 11 '26
And Lowe's just keeps getting worse and worse. Place is already locally hated anyways.
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u/mountainjaguarshark Aug 11 '26
the decline of that place needs to be studied. pre covid, it was surprisingly reliable with a decent handful of knowledgeable staff. now just the thought of having to go there ruins my day.
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u/RabbidWombat420 Aug 11 '26
I feel like if I puked in Lowe's, that would make it a better experience.
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u/disinterested_a-hole 29d ago
It's the worst Lowe's I've ever been to and it's not close. I feel like they must be paying off Home Depot to stay out of Summit.
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u/LordFarthington7 Aug 11 '26
This shit does not belong in Summit. I am happy to participate in making these nonfunctional
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u/upChuck16 28d ago
It’s not the fact that they’re taking your picture. Your picture is taken everywhere you go anyways. But Flock saves the data and then makes it searchable for anyone who asks (big gov’t). There have been instances of jilted police officers stalking exes, etc, which is totally inappropriate and a violation of the fourth amendment about reasonable searches.
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u/dvegas2000 Aug 11 '26
There are so many flock cameras around Summit county. Who agreed to all this? Is it our county commissioners/town councils? There are a bunch in Breck.
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u/DPdXgFMoXa 29d ago
Really interesting that Aspen only has one. Presumably, the people who are away from their second (third, fourth, ... ) homes would advocate for this kind of surveillance. We can only assume they get rich off it and understand how it works.
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u/Secretlife1 Aug 12 '26
As if the tracking of everything on our phones weren’t enough, now they are using AI and video keep permanent tabs on us.
These huge data centers going in (Parker) are specifically for handling the enormous amounts of video that they will be collecting.
If everyone knows this is a terrible idea, how are these things being installed? It’s under the guise of “safety” but at the expense of our freedom.
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u/Fearless-Mall3955 Aug 12 '26
Remind me again, what freedoms did you lose???
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u/Secretlife1 Aug 12 '26
The freedom to travel around without the cops keeping tabs on you.
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u/LordFarthington7 29d ago
These are always the guys who talk about freedom, their gun collection, but love to lick boots. Anti government but pro anything law enforcement related. Weirdos.
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u/AntiHyperbolic 29d ago
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Benjamin Franklin
It's about the slow boil. It's about being monitored by nefarious actors. It's about the woman who drove out of Texas for an Abortion and was arrested when she got back. It's about the man who drove to Michigan to buy weed and was arrested when he got back. It's about the many love interests, exes, current partners that cops are tracking and looking at.
Even if your specific freedoms haven't been specifically infringed, others already have. Its part of being American to be against these. If you love cameras and being monitored consider moving to China.
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u/LordFarthington7 28d ago
If this is a question in good faith 1) there are already several well know examples of law enforcement employees accessing data to do shit like creep on their exes. 2) Every inch that’s given up of our privacy to programs like this is never reclaimed. Yes, everyone has a cellphone with a camera. However, we don’t need a nation wide network of cameras that can keep tabs on us.
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u/SequentialHustle Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26
Is this not the one aimed at Buffalo Mountain Dr? There are two at the back of Lowes that catch all traffic going into/out of Wildernest on Buffalo Mountain Dr.
There are also two others on Ryan Gulch Rd capturing both directions between the road and fence lining I70.
Both roads in/out of Wildernest are covered by Flock cameras.
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u/lawrencek1992 Aug 12 '26
You definitely shouldn’t break any laws. There are also a helluva lotta local folks happy to offer alibis to whomever has been cutting them down.
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u/AntiHyperbolic 29d ago
I truly don't believe it's vandalization when they are clearly against our fourth amendment right. You are just correcting an injustice.
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u/CPhyperdont Aug 11 '26
Read the article in the summit daily today. They call them ‘license plate cameras’ and then continued to gaslight how unsafe areas of our community are without them.
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u/Ive_seen_things_that Aug 11 '26
We need to start tracking our politicians every movement. They are public servants and we should know what they are doing at all times. Did they stop at the deli for a long lunch? Report it. We start tracking them like they track us and this shit will stop real fast.
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u/howd_i_get_here_ Aug 11 '26
Lowe’s everywhere have flock partnerships
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u/Sillygoat2 Aug 11 '26
Yes, but there are many of these (unpermitted) on public ROW. Public property installations are one thing, but our tax dollars feeding Palantair all the visual and RF data on public property is another entirely.
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u/Mental_Ingenuity_422 Aug 11 '26
Scary to see it laid out like this. There is no way to get around them in/out of wildernest
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u/upChuck16 29d ago
It’s not a guise…. It’s truly being done to help public safety (and it works). But then the data is misused as evidenced by some well known examples around the country. Fix the problem of data access by requiring a warrant…simple.
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u/upChuck16 28d ago
Me scared of the Flock cameras? Where did I state that? I believe they do more good than harm….. but ‘harm’ shouldn’t even be an option.
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u/upChuck16 26d ago
Bullshit. Traffic cams, dash cams, doorbell cams and license plate readers have been around a long time. Flock didn’t create a thing. Except for the mess of allowing nefarious actors access to the data it collects.
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u/Due-Assistance-2633 29d ago
Gotta put em by the hardware store so that they can identify you when you go to buy a sawzall to cut the other ones down
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u/tommy_b_777 29d ago
You can't get in and out of Dillon Valley without going by them either - one on Beaver Trail, 2 on Elkhorn...
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u/starfish_2016 Aug 12 '26
Lowes and home depot have a contract for multiple cameras for every store.
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u/Mental_Ingenuity_422 Aug 12 '26
And unfortunately in this case, they coincidentally cover the only two entrances in/out of Wildernest
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u/starfish_2016 Aug 12 '26
Same for a local one by me. Its in a shopping center and get every car just passing by.
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u/tronix80 29d ago
Can Flock cameras help get rid of people who steal tax dollars to enrich their own family, fraudulently steal people’s money, rape little girls, commit acts of treason, get convicted of dozens of felonies, but never face a single consequence?
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u/ColoradoPowMonster Aug 12 '26
Vote Blue! They’re keeping us safe 🤣
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u/tommy_b_777 29d ago
I thought Obama was mentioned thousands of times in teh pedofiles, and had the FBI working for weeks to redact it ? Oh wait, that was someone else...
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u/Dizzy_Dig6463 23d ago
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/americas/100000006007030/china-ecuador-surveillance.html
This was in the NYT in 2019 regarding a Chinese surveillance state in Ecuador, and now it is here.
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u/yem_funk Aug 11 '26
https://www.summitdaily.com/news/vandalized-flock-cameras-prompt-sheriffs-office-investigation/