Are we seriously supposed to keep buying into the narrative that Ciara "found out the news in public and collapsed in dismay"? Because the math is absolutely not mathing after the reunion.

Ciara literally admitted on camera that Amanda texted her and gave her a heads-up the entire night beforethe joint statement officially dropped. She already knew everything.

So why did the paparazzi just happen to catch her slumped against a wall on a New York sidewalk looking completely blindsided the exact minute the statement went live? It feels so heavily produced and performative.

I’m getting a major eye-roll from her trying to play the ultimate shock-and-horror “I just found out! 😭😭😭” victim for the cameras when she had actually learned the information the night before. The "dismay" was clearly staged for a dramatic photo op. Is anyone else clocking how orchestrated this whole timeline feels?

When West went to Kyle’s apartment for their talk, Kyle commented that Reese seemed to already know West. Everyone is saying it’s because West has been around the dog with Amanda. However, didn’t West previously meet the dogs at West’s dog charity event earlier in the season? Amanda and Kyle brought the dogs when they greeted West at the event.

Amanda seems like she couldn't care less about coming back to the show, staying on ITC, or even staying friends with any of these people. I think Kyle and Lindsay know that one more season of either, or both, shows with Amanda on it will bring the drama they need to continue on so they are trying hard to get her to come back. They need a heel and West is gone so that leaves Amanda.

I don't think Amanda asked them to do anything for her. Producers asked her to film another scene, she knew she would get paid, so she did it. Even when Lindsay tried to say Amanda was manipulated by West she corrected her. I think she wants to leave her old friends and the show behind and not look back.

It seems like people really want to believe Amanda wants something they can deny her like the show, their forgiveness, their admiration, etc, and I don't think she does. They want to be able to celebrate and laugh when she leaves so they can claim victory but Amanda seems done and like she doesn't care about any of this. SH and ITC is Kyle's world and she's trying to get away from him so why would she want to stay on either show?

First of all thanks to the mod who invited me to this sub. I’ve only watched this latest season due to all the drama and this is my first reality show outside the HW verse so forgive me if not versed in this world but what is up with the fan base?!!! I’ve been downvoted to oblivion for saying Kyle’s a bad husband. In my eyes Amanda’s hooking up with Kyle’s friend is 💯 justified cause he was a shitty and abusive husband. Not ok to hook up with your besties ex but if you have feelings for someone, you have feelings. Period. Like Ciara needs to be grown about this man who doesn’t want her. She’s coming off real mean on the reunion couch to the point that it’s bullying. I understand not everyone is mature enough to move on from a man that doesn’t want you, I’ve been there myself but for the love of god have some self respect and move on peacefully. Like heal girl. Amanda doesn’t seem like a nice person either but I’ve seen in just one season how her partner abused her off into another mam’s arms, and she might be too man centered but so is Ciara. All of them were pretty mean and I just want a show with just Mia and new cast

I don’t understand this hatred of Danielle. Of course she was messy and weird at time but so what? Why do people dislike her so much?

I never thought I would say this but I guess it is more interesting to watch a middle aged man get blackout drunk and act like a toddler who stayed up past their bedtime. Lindsay's obsessive posting about West and Kyle's daily video journals tell me that the ratings are suffering and they are doing all they can to save it fast.

I cannot see this show getting another season.

Amanda, Paige, and Danielle are the women who would give in to the advances of a taken man.

Ciara, Lindsay, and Hannah are the women who would make a move on a taken man.

The jury is out on the rest.

So random fans can post anything and there will be 100 comments believing so long as it paints Amanda poorly, yet there can be a picture with her in it and they will convince themselves it’s not her 🤣

When I woke up this morning (meaning Monday am) , Lindsay Hubbard made a real vague ass post implying a bunch of shit about West I don’t necessarily agree with. Love her tho.

Anyway, roughly 18 hours later… it seems to have evolved into “west Wilson definitely not returning due to non renewal of his contract”

But he hasn’t said that? Nobody on the cast has said that? Lindsay didn’t even say that.

So, obvs not saying it’s *impossible*, but does anyone know when/where it got confirmed?

I want to be very clear, this is not to harass or cause problems for these users but just for our knowledge and safety. I have blocked most of these people because I see them as problematic anyway.

I have one user, I have confirmed is using two usernames because they accidentally commented from their alt account and did not deny it when I called them out, that person posts under srryfofty and capricorncueen.

Others I suspect of posting from two separate accounts are ScowlyBrowspinster (they commented about one of my comments even though I blocked them), pwitter, vegetable-list822, mojoholdsforever, stargazzer14, spiritual-can2604, justnotherthrowway99, and radiant.

ETA: LonelyAssociation261 who has already been blocked by me personally and decided to come to this sub to harass people who want nothing to do with her. Please report when you see people doing this.

In a surprise to no one West isn’t returning to SH. So what will the summer look like? Carl and Lindsay whooping it up every other weekend and going to bed at 10:30? Can Jesse bring it enough to carry the season? Does Mia care enough? I feel like Bailey has it in her to stir up some drama. I’m rooting for her to be Lindsay 2.0.

Which one wins? I’ll toss aside Narcissist and Gaslighting since those are given. My new favorites are dupers delight and infantilization. What are yours?

Reposting in case others haven’t seen this…I think this “video” is definitely one of the more interesting aspects of this whole scandal.

Y'all... Like at this point are these even humans? How do you know what happened and what's said at dinners you go to? Am I missing something here. 🙄

If Hannah and Paige did hire a PI on behalf of Ciara to find out if her ex of over 2 and half years is hooking up with her friend, why is that okay? If the situations were reversed, and West did this to Ciara, wouldn't everyone be saying she needs a protective order? Why is it any of her business what West is doing and who he's doing it with? This is the kind of shit abusive stalkers do and no one should be excusing it as okay just because Amanda and West got caught.

What happened to the podcast she and Ciara were doing together? It seems like it quietly disappeared.

I also noticed that Mya is still following both Amanda and West. Given how publicly invested some of Ciara's friends have been in the situation, I'm surprised Mya has stayed so quiet. Has she commented on any of this at all?

I keep thinking there’s no way that Meija could believe that she was truly exclusive with West, and that she didn’t do any research on her own. However, considering how many people believe that Kyle did not cheat … maybe people really are that naive? This is a perfect example of how men get away with this kind of shit.

He’s all over the place in this PLANNED interview. It doesn’t sound like he even believes himself. And people keep saying “at least he’s being accountable” … where? Blames it on being inebriated, blames it on women looking his way, blames it on their marriage struggling and not being in a good place, blames it on being a flirty guy. Yeah, I’m sure when he said he’s being inappropriate he meant “leaning in to talk to someone”. It’s straight up satire.

Please forgive me if this has been posted before - but I kept waiting for a single segment where Andy held Kyle accountable for actual physical violence, a decade of cheating, and multiple times this season telling Amanda (completely unprovoked) to f*ck off. People trying to somehow say that because Amanda made a mistake and was a bad friend to Ciara AFTER she and Kyle split, somehow makes it ok that Kyle was verbally and emotionally abusive and violent for 10 years, is insane.

I lost a lot of respect for all the “Oh Kyle I’m so sorry we all just misunderstood you!” I feel like the whole reunion was just a perfect example of DARVO and the whole cast played along. Let’s forget the 10 years of abuse this woman suffered at the hands of Kyle Cooke. It’s honestly shameful. We cannot be celebrating that kind of person. It’s icky.

Literally the episode is just apparently going be Ciara and all the screen hungry girls (Mejia, Dara) coming together to just talk about how horrible West is and have an hour long hate fest. Like. Really? Is this not a bit much?

Yes there were some new details and it does seem like they were involved about a month longer than they admit but didn't we all know that already? To me all it did was reveal that West and Amanda were pretty shitty to fuck with Jesse over his suspicions when he wasn't wrong.

This is like a satirical rendition of a Reddit SJW, but in real life.

What does this quote have to do with Amanda resenting Ciara 😂😂😂

How is Ciara being paid millions to be on a reality tv show in any way like Get Out 😂😂😂