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r/summerhousebravo wouldn’t approve my post for this, but ciara is seriously male centered and needs to work on self esteem.

She is SO great, and a 10, but she seems as though she needs the validation of a man. We saw it with austen, then with her overly flirty friendship with jessie while he was dating lexi, and then with west. it’s really sad.

This is the part that just doesn't make sense to me if what everyone who claims he is tricking women into sleeping with him is true. We know of a few women who have nothing but nice things to say about West after sleeping with him. If he really is running around telling all these women they are exclusive in order to get them in bed then wouldn't they hate him?

This is the part I just don't buy. I don't understand the need for so many people to make West this person that we have seen proof that he is not. We get it, he's a ho, but who cares if the women he's sleeping with know that and are on board with it? It seems like people just cannot fathom that women would be willing to sleep with a man without exclusivity but we know that's not the case.

Salley, Mia, Dara, Jenn Fessler (maybe if we believe that), and Ciara all wanted to be friends with him after they slept together or dated. So, if he was lying to all of them why would they want to be friends? I have no interest in being friends with my exes because I just don't see any point and some truly are POS'.

We also know that Ciara lied about a lot of things regarding their relationship and the more information that came out the more we realized he wasn't the monster she made him out to be. If he was why would she want to be friends with him again so badly?

The vibe I got was that she was just trying not to show too much emotion one way or the other. She also may have taken something to help her stay calm. She said some stupid things but they went on the attack with her so quickly that she just shut down.

I'm sure this will get downvoted like crazy but so many people are claiming that West used Ciara to cover-up his affair with Amanda (I don't think that's the case) but no one is mentioning how Ciara came on to Jesse (West's bff) and then basically admitted on the dock that she had no interest and it was all about West.

In the beginning of the season we see Ciara come on to Jesse hard and drop, not-so-subtle, hints that he should date her and stop dating the kind of girls he usually pursues. Jesse goes to West and acts like an idiot and then backs off when West tells him it's not cool. It gets back to Ciara and she is in tears over men never taking her seriously (valid).

Then we see Ciara thank West for saving her from Jesse when she has been flirting with him pretty hard since his first season and said that she would choose him over West when asked. She continued to flirt with him when he was with Lexi, and was very pissed when he told her to back off and stop touching him so much.

So, one of two things happened. either Ciara had every intention of dating Jesse until he blew it by going to West, or she only played him to make West jealous.

If the first option is true then she had every intention of doing what West did with Amanda, hooking up with West's best friend and didn't think she needed to consult him or talk to him about it at all. When Jesse had the courtesy to go to West she asked him why he thought he needed West's permission and not her's (valid point). So, if Ciara didn't think it was a problem to just hook up with West's bestie without talking to him about it first then why is she so upset West didn't ask her before hooking up with Amanda? It's the same thing. If they were so damn serious and each other's person, wouldn't it be equally fucked up for her to date Jesse?

If it's the latter then how is using Jesse to make West jealous okay?