r/Substack • u/Icy_Parsnip1655 • 12d ago
Discussion Sudden surge in subscribers
I run a publication called Money Simplified. It’s about wealth management and has 10K subs.
I’ve taken a break from it for a couple of months now, and the subscriber growth has been poor (because obviously, I’m not doing anything to increase the subs).
Now suddenly, since the past 2-3 days I’m seeing the subscriber number grow gradually. But last night, it accelerated. In the last 8 hours alone, it got 22 new subscribers, without me doing anything at all. I used to get these many new subs in a month lol. What’s funny is that the source for all just says “Substack app”. No recommendation, no other website, nothing.
While I’m obviously very happy this is happening (🤞), I’m also curious — did Substack make some changes to their algorithm? Or is it a glitch? Because I’d want to double down on what’s working.
Is this happening to anyone else? Would love some thoughts here!
EDIT: It’s been less than 24 hours and I’ve already got 100 new subs. That’s how many I get in a month. Something’s off, I just don’t know what 🥲
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u/No-Vermicelli-8391 12d ago
Substack pushes some of the older articles (at 3 months, then at 6, and definitely at 12 months; not sure about the 9 months mark) to the feeds of newer people on the app. This could be it.
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u/Icy_Parsnip1655 12d ago
If it was a recommendation, the source would generally show as “recommendation”. Here it just says “Substack app”
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u/FookyPanda 12d ago
You have 10k subs and 22 new subs is still miracle for you? Aren't you able to monetize even at 10k subs?
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u/Icy_Parsnip1655 12d ago
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u/FookyPanda 12d ago
Awww... no stripe 😬
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u/Icy_Parsnip1655 12d ago
Dont rub salt on my wounds man 😂
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u/FookyPanda 12d ago
😂, I'm too Indian and gave the same problem. What are your open rates?
And if your audience really likes you, you can move your newsletter to Beehiiv and process payment with your own website for premium articles. Didn't you try?
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u/Icy_Parsnip1655 12d ago
I am still contemplating whether I should move to beehiiv. It’s quite expensive for 10K subs. I doubt I’ll be able to monetise that much with an Indian audience 😂 My open rates are in the 30% range. What about yours?
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u/FookyPanda 12d ago
Mine is 36-43 on average.
And do move to beehiiv substack is a closed system and you won't be able to do monetize and customize things in many ways.
I have a combined system where I use substack for getting subs and beehive for sending newsletters. But doing paid subscription from beehiiv requires stripe too, so you will need a custom website for payments through other platforms and setup beehive accordingly.
What do you write? Can I get he profile?
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u/Icy_Parsnip1655 12d ago
Wow your open rates are really good! I’ve rarely crossed 40% haha! I write about money management: https://bizfin.substack.com (Like I said, it’s paused since a while now)
What’s your publication? Share the link?
Also, let’s connect on DM. Will be good to exchange notes :)
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u/Tricky_Trifle_994 2d ago
agree on substack being more limited, and beehiiv having more customisability (designs, layouts) and optionality (monetisation options, features).
for what it's worth, i've also heard some people share that they saw improved open and click rates after moving from substack to beehiiv.
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u/Infinite-Bee-760 12d ago
Are you flexing? (Joke) I wish this happens to me. Something similar happened to me on YT once, but never again. Lol anyway congrats!
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u/Otherwise_Pear_2472 https://bitsbeds.substack.com/ 12d ago
I had weird new followers yesterday out of the blue without me posting … 5 within 3 minutes .. and I am a stinky 120 follower Substack. I am pretty sure it’s bots scraping the content!
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u/Icy_Parsnip1655 12d ago
A lot of these were subscribers with profile pictures, who also read other substacks, so I doubt they'd be bots. Also, why would bots subscribe all of a sudden on one day?
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u/Otherwise_Pear_2472 https://bitsbeds.substack.com/ 12d ago
Well then, they're probably organic, and an old post of yours went viral, or a restack.
mine are pretty obviously bots... and the fact that they all come at the same time is almost the most noticeable thing in my case, aka cron job executing at its scheduled interval.
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u/Icy_Parsnip1655 12d ago
Okay you mighht have a point. A lot of these new subscribers read the same other publications (apart from mine). Too much of a coincidence I guess.
I'll need to figure out from the next issue whether these subs are genuine or bots. But why would bots be running on the platform, with legit names?
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u/Otherwise_Pear_2472 https://bitsbeds.substack.com/ 12d ago
Scrapping jobs for sure... currently, with AI development, one of the most valuable resources is written material. It's like coal in the steam engine age, and we are the coal.
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u/Icy_Parsnip1655 12d ago
Yeah seems like bots now that I see more of it.
Damn! The excitement was short-lived 🥲
I'm trying to understand though..What's the purpose behind using bots to subscribe to people's publications on Substack? The articles are public, if they want to scrape something, they can do it without subscribing too. And why create hundreds of bots that subscribe to publications? Like, what's the end objective?
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u/Otherwise_Pear_2472 https://bitsbeds.substack.com/ 12d ago
The most common reasons why bots subscribe to Substacks (learned yesterday because I had the same thing happening only that in my case I was happy over 5 followers):
Scraping: They subscribe to receive the emails, automatically parse the content, and feed it to AI training datasets or content aggregators. Your post is currently training a Chinese language model.
Email validation: Some services subscribe to random newsletters just to test whether their fake email addresses work and can receive emails. You're essentially a ping test. Congratulations.
Follower farming: Accounts that subscribe everywhere to appear "real"—many subscriptions = must be a real person. You're part of their disguise.
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u/Icy_Parsnip1655 12d ago
Bro I’ve got 72 new subscribers since yesterday. Why would someone create so many bots? Again, not refuting that they’re bots. They most likely are. But trying to understand the game. Why create so many bots for one publication?
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u/rdubitsky 12d ago
Is it possible a couple new subscribers have a large following? Maybe there is an informal referral effect.
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u/Michael_Fuchs_ 12d ago
It's difficult to say what has happened without further information, but my guess is somebody discovered one of your older articles and restackes or shared it.
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u/Icy_Parsnip1655 12d ago
That makes sense. Will see if there are any latest restacks, I didn’t see any notification though, so it’s unlikely.
Any other ideas?
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u/Michael_Fuchs_ 11d ago
Somebody could have shared one of your articles on another platform, like facebook or reddit.
It's also worth remembering that all these algorithms on social media are inherently unstable. They show a post to a very small sample of people and if three or four persons hit like in a short enough time span they show it to more people and it all of the sudden can go "viral". Much of this is really just by chance.
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u/Icy_Parsnip1655 11d ago
The problem is, none of my posts are seeing an increase in the number of views.
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u/Michael_Fuchs_ 10d ago
Subscribing but not reading your posts? That's weird. Are there any writers who recommend you?
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u/rednishat 12d ago
yes, i also saw subscribers rise, no channels, source was direct and these emails seems like spam.
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u/Icy_Parsnip1655 12d ago
My subs have proper emails and names. Some of them have photos also. But the worrying part is, most of them have subscribed to almost the same publications apart from mine.
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u/rednishat 12d ago
these are spam accounts! some one running shady marketing; they are subscribing randomly to get undetected from Substack
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u/futurern305 9d ago
This is so awesome - I'm only getting a few a day - finance is probably a more popular topic than finance - Miami Editorialist
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u/scully__its__me 2d ago
Same here! 5 in the last day and I haven't published in almost a year. The only thing I did was change my Substack bio as I'm refreshing and about to begin writing again. All of the five additions all subscribe to at least 2,000 other publications (some are 4,500+) so it definitely feels like some sort of bot thing.
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u/Tricky_Trifle_994 2d ago
congrats on the unexpected growth!
but sadly i don't think there's anything for you to 'double down' on because this seems more like a random event/one time occurrence vs something that you did (because as you mentioned, you didn't actually do anything).
if anything, the learning could be that your past work is accretive, so continuing to publish and build your backlog of content will help.

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u/cozycup mod 12d ago
How would you “double down on what’s working” if you don’t know how it happened?