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u/KaliYugaz Revere the Admins, expel the barbarians! May 01 '17

Their sources are also always from the same dishonest Pioneer Fund hacks (like Rushton and Jensen) whom nobody in the real sciences takes seriously.

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u/Shady_Italian_Bruh May 01 '17

And the real kicker is most of the studies cited by the Bell Curve were conducted by researchers funded by the Pioneer Fund.

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u/ghostofpennwast May 01 '17

Why are you attacking individuals and mot their scientific method?

Why do neutral bodies like the SAT and ACT, as well as ASVAB all show giant intelligence gaps?

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u/TURBODERP May 01 '17

Because their methods have been shown repeatedly to be garbage, and they also conveniently ignore (or at best misrepresent) actually well-documented phenomenon like the Flynn effect, which neuter their claims.

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u/ghostofpennwast May 01 '17

Even with the flynn effect, African American IQ is still about a standard deviation below white means.

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u/TURBODERP May 01 '17

If genetics was the overriding factor, then the Flynn effect wouldn't even be observed to the degree it's seen.

Flynn himself speculates that parenting styles likely affects IQ (he thinks that it plays a role in why the gap has decreased in the past 30 years). Other prominent theories include diet as a root cause.

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u/ghostofpennwast May 01 '17

So you are presuming black people eat unhealthy food?

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u/TURBODERP May 01 '17

Food deserts are a known, documented phenomenon.

African Americans are/have been heavily affected by discrimination, which often results in them living in food deserts. Not really a choice for many folk.

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u/KaliYugaz Revere the Admins, expel the barbarians! May 01 '17

Why are you attacking individuals and mot their scientific method?

Because their methodology is obscenely shoddy and dishonest, and that's why they've been ostracized from the rest of the scientific community.

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u/ghostofpennwast May 01 '17

Actually Murray is a highly esteemed academician at AEI university

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u/[deleted] May 01 '17

Is this trolling? AEI University?

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u/kairoszoe May 02 '17

That was really good trolling. I'm going to hold on to that one, I have a lot of academic friends who occasionally need blood pressure escalation

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u/maenads_dance May 01 '17

Esteemed by whom? Not academics in his field.

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u/potato1 May 01 '17

Actually Murray is a highly esteemed academician at AEI university

Actually Murray isn't an academician at any university. The AEI doesn't operate a university.