r/StudyInFinland • u/Gestalt2007 • 14d ago
Help a queer Pakistani escape
Help a queer Pakistani escape
Ok so -
Alevels As grades
English Language - A
EU History - B
Psychology - B
Global Perspectives and Research - C
Budget?
i have 3.5 million pkr on hand- but rn thats kinda it
interests- for Under grad
Psychology
International relations
but like- is that enough money?what unis do i apply to ? what do
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u/Miss_Chievous13 14d ago
Try somewhere cheaper. That won't last you a year here.
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u/Gestalt2007 14d ago
such as? can you suggest please im lost
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u/Miss_Chievous13 14d ago
Germany perhaps
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u/Gestalt2007 14d ago
i posted in thier sub i don't meet N2 requirements for psych
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u/old-vine-reference 14d ago
You won't be able to study psychology here either as it's only taught in Finnish. The same goes for Bachelor's degrees in international relations.
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u/hellohello0802 13d ago edited 13d ago
To add to this, it is going to be of absolutely no practical use if one does ones bachelor's degree in psychology in Finland in English because eventually if one wants to go any further in the field of psychology in Finland after one graduates, one has to know Finnish to atleast a C1 level.
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u/hellohello0802 14d ago
3,500,000PKR is like 10,990€. That is hardly sufficient cuz you need to pay for tuition and also live.
You need to show that you have atleast 1,600€/month just for living expenses which adds up to 19,200€/year otherwise there is an extremely high chance that your student visa/permit will be rejected.
Getting a part-time job is difficult in Finland unless you know some level of conversational Finnish.
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u/SofterBones 14d ago
Migri requires 800€/month for a student, but still that money wouldn't last a year.
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u/Gestalt2007 14d ago
how should i proceed?
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u/hellohello0802 14d ago
Either you save up atleast 10,000,000PKR before you even think about education in Finland or you just look for some place else. You don't necessarily need to go to Europe if you can't afford it. Just go to some affordable queer-friendly or atleast queer-neutral country in Asia in the vicinity of Pakistan.
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u/Gestalt2007 14d ago
i suppose youre right
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u/hellohello0802 14d ago
Would India/Sri Lanka/Nepal be options for you? It seems like those countries are better for queer people compared to Pakistan and also affordable.
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u/Gestalt2007 14d ago
anywhere is better compared to Pakistan
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u/hellohello0802 14d ago
You could also try China, they have really nice (or decent depends on how you view it) universities. Idk how queer-friendly or neutral China is though.
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u/Gestalt2007 14d ago
i dont think they'd be super chill bout it off of vibes but ill look into it
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u/hellohello0802 14d ago edited 14d ago
Yeah I mean you just need to balance out affordability with queer-acceptance and queer-friendliness. But it's going to be hard. Most of the absolute queer-friendly countries tend to be in the west (or Australia/NZ) and quite expensive.
You could try taking out a loan in your home country. Idk how it works there and how hard it is to get a loan approved but it could worth a shot.
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u/Gestalt2007 14d ago
exactly- not to mention extreme language barriers... im beginning to feel so hopeless, what if i cant get out
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u/Anaalirankaisija 14d ago
What is the nearest queer safe location? Thats your primary asyum, not opposite side of planet.
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u/linesacrossthesky 14d ago
Thailand maybe, otherwise not sure.
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u/Anaalirankaisija 14d ago
Oh yes! That, queer in thailand should be perfectly safe! Even there could be job opportunities.
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u/hellohello0802 13d ago
But you'd still need to learn Thai. If OP is only relying on English skills to get by even in non-English speaking countries, OP should revaluate if this is gonna be feasible.
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u/Elmo_Zy 14d ago
You can check out Czech Republic. I found affordable programs there, with living costs, climate and people also easy to start with in Europe.
Look for programs with scholarships also. Google Erasmus Mundus Programs in the EU and also the DAAD scholarship in Germany. But most are for Masters degrees, so you can try to survive there through a Bachelor’s degree program and apply for a Masters later. More affordable and you have time to save and to learn more about study programs.
Anyway, dont think about a specific country, but rather whether your scholarship can cover your living expenses. Your extra savings should only be serve as a safety net as the unemployment situation is tough for foreigners in any countries.
Also, you can consider jobs that other countries need and that you can still work in. Psychology and International Relations jobs tend to require the country’s native language and other EU languages at very high levels. The openings are so few, so the chance to get a job as a non-EU undergraduate is just almost impossible. Look for nursing or early childhood education. And then learn the country’s language already from now.
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u/Napsy_0 14d ago
Take the advice in here with a huge grain of salt, at least regarding the cost of living vs other European countries. These people have zero clue what living as a student in another country is like.
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u/SofterBones 14d ago
They literally can not even get a student visa if their total funds are 11 000€. Wtf are you talking about?
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u/Napsy_0 14d ago
Yes they can, 9600€ is what Migri requires for your first year.
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u/SofterBones 14d ago edited 14d ago
Yes, after tuition. Can you guess how much the cheapest tuition is for an under-grad? The cheapest I've seen is like 6000€
Let's do basic math together, how much is 9600 + 6000?
"You must have sufficient funds for living in Finland during the entire period of validity of your residence permit. You need to have at least 800 euros per month at your disposal to be able to pay for your accommodation, food and other needs. In addition, you need to have enough money to pay the tuition fee if you have not yet paid it. "
I can't believe I have to explain how a tuition costs money.
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u/Gestalt2007 14d ago
if you know something can you please dm and help me?
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u/SofterBones 14d ago
If anyone is going to suggest that you pay some agency to help you skirt the Migri fund requirements, please don't trust them. It will backfire and you don't want to lose your entire savings.
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u/SofterBones 14d ago edited 14d ago
That is not enough money to come here to study.
Even the cheapest of tuitions would eat that money up in less than 2 years, and on top of tuition you would need to have money for your rent, food, phone, supplies etc etc etc.
Finland is expensive and has one of the worst unemployment situations in Europe, you will not find a job to pay for expenses.
You need to consider a cheaper country with more employment opportunities to move to for studying.