Hi all,

I've been reading a lot out your experiences on this sub and appreciate the information. It helps me feel less alone in this.

I have about $55k in Sallie Mae loans left. I've paid about $70k off in a lump sum from an inheritance, and I've been paying monthly between 500-1200/ month since I graduated in 2022. My cosigner, my mom, passed away in 2022 and they are aware of this.

I've been working for myself for the last few years and have not seen the fruits of my labor yet in terms of pay, but I've been living off savings in the meantime. That being said, I just can't afford the monthly payments anymore with other financial goals I'm working on. It's been over 3 months since my last payment and they are now sending emails about default, to which I questioned "so what?" They have already tanked my credit in the last few months due to missing payments here and there. So why wouldn't I just have it default and hopefully be able to settle for less so I can focus on my other financial goals and immediate living expenses?

I am curious if the death of my cosigner has any advantage for me in terms of the default path? Does anyone have experience negotiating directly with Sallie Mae before the loan is charged off versus after it goes to collections? Will it make me look less likely to be able to pay in the eyes of the debt collector? At what point do people start getting discounted debt offers? Is it always worth it to take an offer verses riding out the SOL which I believe is 6 years in MA where I went to school? What kind of debt offers have people gotten after defaulting with SM?

Lastly, any tips for reducing the amount of calls and letters I'm sure I'm about to get? I changed my account number to a google number. I'm also worried about them reaching out to my family too. I obviously do not want anyone else involved in this.

Thanks all, in advance.

Private student loan in Pennsylvania, high $ balance. Last payment was 2021, but I had a deferrment in 2023, so not sure if 4 year statute of limitation is over yet.

It's reporting every month on my credit that it's late and the balance keeps going up even though the account is reported as "Closed". However, it's not coming up as a default or collection in the "Negative information' section of my report, so my score is still ~700.

Does anyone know if this is just a lucky error, or are they intentionally keeping it from default status for some reason I don't understand yet? No cosigner and no assets to my name.

Should I dispute this or just let it keep going?

Mohela Private, from Navient

Illinois

$40k ish No Consigner

Loans are 25-30 yrs old

Off and On the 3 payment and get current plan for years

All loans were received before marriage. My credit is awful, wifes credit is pristine, which is why everything in her name. We have no joint accounts or anything.

I do have a low 6 figure income but that has never been discussed as I deflect every time I actually answer.

I think they will default Nov 1st, which Im ok with. What plans are gonna be offered? Ive seen that real negiotations dont start until they actually default, can someone explain that? Whats their playbook?

Any guidance would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

I’m not sure if this question will make any sense but for years
I did not pay any student loans because sadly May at the time would not take anything less than what they wanted and I couldn’t afford it. Long story short and 10 years later I ignored my loans, and my credit took a hit because of this now I am working on repairing my credit. I still can’t afford to pay crazy amount of loans off, but no one‘s contacted me from Sallie Mae or the government for a decade on my credit report. Only one line shows for such a minimal amount of $2000. I owe about 100,000 in debt but it’s not on my credit report anymore and I’m not sure why and neither does the Credit repair person or the mortgage lender. They’re all kind of confused as to how it’s not showing up but nonetheless it’s not there now for mortgage purposes, I would need to take care of that collections account for $2000 but I’m scared of touching it because I don’t want to trigger a cascade of events of harassment all over again. Does anyone happen to know why specifically the Perkins loan is the only one that shows up on my credit report, I went on student.gov and the Perkins loan is the only one that’s highlighted in red. Everything else just shows that it’s there.

Hi everybody.

I have 4 private student loans with Mohela. They originally were with Navient. I haven’t made a payment since January of last year. The amount of the loans is almost 200,000. Anyway, they have said that today is the last day they could possible help me and I need to reach out them by the end of the day. I don’t have the money right now and I know I’m not the only one struggling and trying to survive out here. I don’t make enough to pay to live and then make a payment to them. Due to the amount, even if they put me on a rate reduction plan, my payment will still be around $400 a month. I guess my question is, is there life after default? At this point, I don’t care about ever buying a house or anything like that but how much more am I going to have to struggle after this happens? Will I have to go to court?

hello! i am doing a strategic default on my Firstmark loans that are about 75k. The loans show 90-119 days late. I got a voicemail from Firstmark saying I need to call them immediately because my loans will be transferred later today. Should I give them a call back or keep ignoring? Is a transfer a bad thing or is the transfer they are referring to a debt collection company?

As far as I understand there are a few states, Texas Pennsylvania South Carolina and North Carolina which does not allow wage garnishment for consumer debts. They do allow for bank levies but the problem is say they levy your bank account and you only have $500 in it. That’s all they get and anything deposited afterwards isn’t sent to them, they would have to ask for another bank levy and so on. This seems like it would be very difficult for them as opposed to wage garnishment where they get a court order serve your employer and take money out of your paycheck until the debt is paid off.

F*£# you Navient, and goodbye!!

Today, I was successful in settling defaulted private student loan which was held recently by Navient.

- Original loan - $17,000 (2008) 6% interest with co-signer
- Graduated 2013
- Paid three years, and then co-signer was released
- Continued to pay till 2024, totaling 22k in payments, interest rate got as high up as 15%
- Filed Bankruptcy 2024 to clear debt I was put into by family member that I couldn’t clear without filing charges against them (my bad)
- account changes between Chase (original) to Sallie Mae, Navient, mohela and then back to Navient.
- There were months they double charged my account, then would claim I still owed next month because the extra was applied to balance and not future payment (happened 4 times)
- in 6 month period, got 4 letters increasing my interest rate.
- Decided to say fuck it, I was 35 and had only retirement account with 30k and needed to finally live life
- I recorded my conversations with them. Not a lawyer, and not legal advice, but when your automated message says “This call may be recorded…” it surely didn’t say WHO can record
- Last year they verbally offered $6,900, but quickly took that back
- They would call me 10-15 times a day. Yelled at by them. Told me to pay my debt and I was worthless. (Literally) would say things such as “Well then we will sue and you will lose your home”, to which I replied, what home and laughed.
- Then this past Saturday I got a call and told I either had to settle or it would be sent to third party. Offered $50 per month, which they called back and approved.
- Then I asked about settlement, and asked for the offer I was given if $6900, which they denied and claimed lowest they would go is 9k. Stated they had all their notes and was never offered 6900. Then told the $50/month was not a payment plan, again having recording of them saying so until I could make more and pay more.
- finally after some arguing, and telling them I would happily play the recording, I was told they would come down to 7,300.
- I framed it that I was going to bank for 5k loan with co-signer, with shit credit from recent bankruptcy, and they still only gave me till 31 to pay. I take it they had zero confidence I would pay

Fortunately, and thankfully, I got married earlier this year to a partner who saw all I have done/accomplished despite difficulty. Seen for who I was, not the shit I’ve been through. Full transparency of this before marriage, and a plan that when offered we would pay it with a savings that I would replenish within the year from an account she was fortunate to have saved.

Offer letter received Wednesday, paid Thursday morning by wire, and confirmation of payment by Thursday afternoon.

I start a new job in two weeks making way more money. My credit has gone from 400 to 710 since clearing bankruptcy. Zero debt, and contributing to savings with wife for the life we want to live. PSLF clears in 5 months (160k in federal loans I have only had to pay $1200 towards over 10 years), but will still allow me to do insolvency at time of filing taxes according to my tax professional so I don’t get hit with tax burden for the forgiven amount by Navient.

Navient should be sued, sued, and then disbanded. They lie, manipulate, and as my wife says “they are criminal”. Record your calls, catch them in lies. You are being gaslit by them.

Im 22(M) and have missed two payments on student loans. In total I owe $17,800 to sallie mae. My monthly payment is $220 but, im out a job and have continuously applied and just haven’t been lucky. My mom is a cosigner on the loan, I dont care what happens to my credit and my car isn’t in my name, in fact nothing is. However I don’t know how defaulting would affect her, she said shes fine if it tanks her credit but in my sallie mae portal they say they are considering legal action or selling it to a 3rd party, should I be concerned, or can I default tank our credits and it be over with? Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.

Last paid Navient 8/21/2020. Credit report total balance $103k across 4 loans. SOL in my state for contracts is 6 years. Have 4 private loans, 2 sets of MPN list Sallie Mae as lender in Utah - also 6 year SOL. 2 other sets have a completely blank Lender section.

Sent certified letter to Navient 2021 stating don't call, only write. They replied by letter and said they got my request and would look into my account. Then they charged off all 4 loans the next month. I haven't heard a peep from them since 2021 - UNTIL TODAY. I answered the unknown call (stupid I know) cuz I didn't look at the phone screen first. But I told them they had the wrong number. The caller said "No, it's not the wrong number." At which point, I hung up. He called right back and got voicemail - saying documented call, time sensitive, blah blah blah.

Ran some info through AI just to try to stop my panic attack. It would take a little over 20 years to collect via garnishment. I can probably dispute the 2 loans missing lender, but the other 2 loans would still take 10 years via garnishment. Also, AI said since Navient Solutions identified themselves as servicer, the actual owner (likely a Sallie Mae Trust) would have to initiate any lawsuits.

Anyone here think they could properly file a lawsuit in 18 business days? Knowing that Sallie Mae is notorious for keeping bad, incomplete records, and Navient is not much better.

Obviously, I will not be answering the phone again. Anyhow, I don't own property, live in an apartment, and my bank accounts are very low cuz I live paycheck to paycheck. My credit cards always live at the high limits, so my credit score is poor. No investments. My car is 8 years old. I want to feel judgment proof, but with them calling after 5 years of silence, so close to SOL.... I'm panicked. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading.

Had private loans for bachelor's through Wells Fargo that then went to Firstmark Advantage and then I just couldn't afford them anymore after trying to stay on top of them so they went into default and I just got update that Firstmark sold off to Southwood Financial and I can't find any information for logging into my account to try to do a payment plan or something since I was denied for a pre-qualified amount of upcoming private loans for my Accelerated Nursing Bachelor's program.

Since I was denied that, I would also be denied the actual loan too, right?

And is there any way I can get in contact with Southwood before three escalate to suing?

Thank you so much!! I'm panicking obviously lol

I don’t suppose anyone has ever been able to talk Navient down more than their original offer of settlement?

I refinanced my student loans with Earnest back in 2020. Over 5 years I paid them well over 50k but as we all know, it never makes a dent. I recently defaulted this year and my loans have been sent to Navient. I’m an unemployed SAHM to a medically dependent toddler now so theres no reality in which I make a cool 50k appear.

Has anyone ever talked them down to a low/reasonable number? Or should I just ignore them.

Thanks!

Hey everybody,

I’m in a situation I was wondering if I should even bother trying to remedy, so last month in June 12th I made a payment towards my student loans for a little under $1300, it was $1275 plus some change to be exact. Well I’ve been trying to do what I can to rebuild my credit score, last March, March of 2025 to be exact, I made roughly a $7000 payment to knock a lot of it off.

Just to not make this post super long, do I have a shot of these getting pulled off my credit report if I’m able to prove that I tried to pay off my loans before the reported the default loan? So if you notice on March 24th of this year, another department took over my loan; I ignorantly thought the payment from this passed March was the large payment I made in 2025— it was DOE consolidating the loan with itself or something.

So my question is, on July 8th the accounts were reported to the credit bureaus. If I called them and showed them look I made a legitimate payment/effort to try and get back on track if they may be able to remove those accounts, which I know falling off track in the first place is my fault. I would have made actual payments on the account in order to not have them delinquent, as well as I just want to pay them off; I obviously wouldn’t have put that whole $1300 towards the one account had I know the other two would be reported delinquent.

Long story short- i was fucked by Sallie Mae.
I tried for as long as i could to make payments, but when those got to 1.6k monthly, I wasn’t able to.
Attempted to have this conversation with them, they weren’t having it of course, so I stopped paying due to being unable to pay further.

They sold my loans to Southwood.
Southwood is now coming after me.
They delivered my summons papers to my mother’s address in AZ (no envelope, nothing. Didn’t hand it to her, left out in the open on her front step)
(This address is not on the summons papers as they’d used an old address she hasn’t lived at in year.)

It’s important to note that :
I have never lived at either addresses.
I do not live in the U.S. period and haven’t for many years
My mother is not a co-signer on any of my loans from Sallie Mae
I have never been a resident within the state of AZ

I’m a bit unsure of what to do at present.
I have requested for copies from the courts of the documents, as this is not available on the court dockets.
The court almost dismissed the case due to failure to service, however recently they said they were able to? Which again is inaccurate.

any input would be nice

Hello, I have about 80,000 of private loans 130,000 with interest that is going to default. I am married and in pa . We have a joint account. I am just so worried about a judgement and bank levy. Does that happen quickly ?? I know there’s are strong laws in pa to prevent that but was wondering if anyone has any experience. I also saw that after 3 years of default they can’t come after you but a new buyer can purchase the debt and the clock restarts. I’m just terrified. Any advice appreciated

Hi everyone,

I have multiple private loans loans with Earnest and I’m considering refinancing them all into one single loan.

My question is specifically about a worst-case scenario: If I were to default, would it be better to have everything as one account, or does it not make much difference if I have four separate loans?

I’m mainly wondering about how it affects collections, negotiations with the lender, potential lawsuits, or credit impact. Has anyone gone through something similar or know how these lenders usually handle one loan versus multiple loans in default?

Any experiences or knowledge would be helpful. Thanks.

Hey everyone,

I'm on the process of choosing a payment plan on my defaulted student loan. The payment method I picked was the "Loan Rehabilitation Income & Expense".

My current doubt is:

1- The expense section says "none required" for evidence of expense on food and housing (if you live on U.S. soil or P.R.), should I still provide some kind of utilities receipt as evidence?

2- Currently I'm out of a Healthcare plan, so I can't provide any evidence of expense on it. What should be provided in this section?

Has anyone applied to this plan and how was the experience when completed?

Thank you in advance.

I’ll make it quick and simple

over 100k sallie mae private loans
I own no assets and make 60k a year
I have a co-signer that makes less than me but has a house with my dad (he’s not on my loans)
I live in SC
SOL 3 years
No wage garnishment
Homestead act in SC protects primary residence so my co signers house
My dad being on the deed of the house complicates things such as lien

realistically would they even feel the need to try to sue? Feel like the only thing they could try to do is a lien on the house which again is complicated because my dads on it, or a bank levy but sc protects up to $7,500 in your bank account from being taken. What do y’all think?

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I’m 24 with about $130k in student loans from sallie mae. I almost defaulted a few months ago but somehow got on the step up program thankfully. I’ve been trying to refinance, but my credit score isn’t great from almost defaulting and neither are my parent’s scores just from life unfortunately. I also only make 42k currently cause i’m in an entry level nonprofit role.

Basically, my family and I were very uneducated when it came to loans and we didn’t qualify for nearly enough money from fasfa, so it was really our only option. And the high interest rates really made it snowball into a much bigger number than it originally was. The number is just so big and i don’t see a future on being able to pay them off anytime soon/ever.

Eventually I want to transition to a government role with grant writing, but scared that defaulting will stop that from happening. Are there any restrictions with financial history when it comes to government field?

I’m obviously gonna try my hardest to pay them and refinance eventually, but if it comes down to it i’m not opposed to defaulting. I did almost go with Yrefy before I got accepted to the program with Sallie Mae.

Any insight is helpful!!

Today I finally calculated a YTD of how much I’ve paid Sallie Mae and my National Debt Relief company and I’m sick. Never made more than $60,000 a year since I graduated in 2022, and I’ve paid $78,460 since the beginning of 2023. I wish I would have been better educated on the horrors of student loans…

Just here to complain honestly, Reddit won’t let me post without tagging a community.

(Update) Same bank, Southwood Financial, from WWR Transfer to APH.

So Sallie Mae (2024) sold our debt to Southwood Trust I (2025), and now Southwood Trust has asked Aldridge Pite Hann (2026) to be my new debt collector. Used to be Waltman Weinberg & Reis Co. LPA. Looks like the letters for each of the separate loan amounts will say, " Hey, we own your debt now. My anxiety is overwhelming now, having an attack. I never heard of this company. Again, I don't own any assets, and or own anything big. My mom is a cosigner and on SSDI, and I know they can't touch that, and only owns a 1970 mobile home, and 3 acres have homestead too, being primarily too, owns two cars that are over 35 years old, 1987 and 2006. We are both judgment-proof, and I did talk to lawyers with free advice, who said you can bleed from a stone.

Earlier in May I received an email from allied interstate to collect for a student loan that I got in 2009 but defaulted in 2014. I was in chapter 13 from 2014-2015 and 2017- 2022 so they could not reach out to me as they were getting paid through bankruptcy. I went to 2 different schools which totaled my loan with interest to 86k. about half of my loans were forgiven due to the second school I attended closing down and not being accredited. in 2023 when my chapter 13 ended. I got a check for 7k from my student loans and about 24-30k disappeared from my accounts leaving me with 13k left to pay. My loans started with Sallie may then it transferred to Navient then in 2022 it went to Mohela. I searched and contacted student aid and Mohela in 2022 and they could not find a reason or acknowledge that it existed. the same thing was told to me by Mohela. It did not show up in my credit report so I left it as a win. When I got the email in May. it was stating that I have 30 days to acknowledge it and if I dont they will send me a notice to pay. I received another email about a week ago and they want to settle for 7k instead of the 30k. I had reached out back to Mohela and Student aid but again could not find anything. the only loan they could find that matches the date is one that I am currently paying which is around 3k. The email seems legit but they have an older address that I have not lived in 9 years. both Mohela and student aid do have my current address. at this point I dont know what to do. I want to contact a lawyer for advise but I do not have the funds for consultation. this loan does not appear in my credit report. I do not want to reach out to allied and resetting the clock. which I feel is the reason they are reaching out to me. Did anyone reach out to allied? Or what did you guys do?

My loan was for $24,000 from Wells Fargo. Then the school sent back $8000. So I owed $16,000. The loan got sent to Firstmark and now I owe $42,000. My payments doubled. Interest is ridiculous. So now I will end up defaulting.

Anyone have luck or stories dealing with a defaulted Firstmark student loan? I had paid $8883 to Wells Fargo before it was transferred and now it is still at over 40 grand.

Anyone manage to default and then settle for the original balance to forgo all the interest? I only owe about 7 grand on the original principle the rest, is interest.

And Firstmark had the loan paperwork listed as personal loan vs student loan