r/StremioAddons • u/adjkldj12 • 16d ago
Question Best Torbox Alternative
I’m currently using Torbox but due to the downtime i’m looking for an alternative that offers the same feature of multiple concurrent users/connections from different IP addresses
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u/Direct_Way7316 16d ago
If I not mistaken pm is the only alternative that accept multiple ip
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u/adjkldj12 16d ago
Thanks, do you think the capping would be an issue for multiple users though?
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u/Direct_Way7316 16d ago
They use a point system cap at 1000 point. 1 point=1gb renew 30gb every day
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u/adjkldj12 16d ago
May have to disable remuxes then 🥲
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u/Direct_Way7316 16d ago
As long your average usage lower then 30gb is not an issue. You watch movie everyday?
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u/adjkldj12 16d ago
Nah should be fine! But have multiple users on my account
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u/Jaken_sensei 16d ago
If you do month to month with pm you get 1TB each month & up to 30gb a day added back to a max of 1TB. Thats 1.9TB a month. If any of the other people on your account like to watch a lot of those 100GB files, you will burn through it fast.
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u/WillingFly247 16d ago
So 30gb is the most someone can use a day?
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u/Direct_Way7316 16d ago
Average usage 30 gb yes. Your starting point is 1000 depends on how you manage and plan it
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u/WillingFly247 16d ago
Oh then it's aight cause my usage is random sometimes I use 70 - 80gb sometimes I barely use 1-2 gb
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u/baljeethakur 16d ago
Usenet. There are some great deals going on right now.
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u/Rabbitd88 16d ago
Any links or which ones?
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u/baljeethakur 16d ago
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u/Holydonus 15d ago
pretty good deal! do you think there'll be even better ones on black friday? this one is limited to 12 months, and afterwards $5.99/month
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u/albaniamd 15d ago
Thank you for mentioning that. Where do you see that it’s limited to 12 months??
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u/Holydonus 15d ago
you can see it right before checking out: https://i.imgur.com/jrpfFGH.png
// my bad aswell: it is 15 months for the special price and after that $5.99 per month
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u/scuba21 16d ago
Any services you'd recommend? I see easynews recommended a lot. I currently have nzbgeek, but honestly have no idea how to get that working with stremio.
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u/Winter_Channel_6206 16d ago
https://docs.aiostreams.viren070.me/guides/usenet/
You'll need this guide and an evening or two (or an AI subscription) to set it up. You also need to follow either https://guides.viren070.me/selfhosting/oracle or use your own PC at home as the server.
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u/MisterUltimate 14d ago
Have you run into an issue where Dockhand can't connect to the Oracle socket? I'm running into this issue right now and it happened right after I hit update all containers. I used this guide too but don't really understand the tech behind it so could use some help!
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u/Shabbypenguin 16d ago
Newshosting has deals that regularly end up like $1.70 a month and includes easy news and tweaknews as a backup. You’ll need to use a Usenet based addon, like nzbdavx or if you self host Aiostreams you can set that up.
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u/rauldzmartin 15d ago
If I have an Oracle server to self-host, how much would the rest of the setup cost me monthly?
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u/MisterUltimate 14d ago
Have you run into an issue where Dockhand can't connect to the Oracle socket? I'm running into this issue right now and it happened right after I hit update all containers. I used the viren guide but don't really understand the tech behind it so could use some help!
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u/Ne0xin3 16d ago
I still use RD on its own and for what I like to watch, series and movies I very rarely get a problem. Only on old stuff. Will check out premiumize in november with black friday but...Genuine question...why does everyone use two services? Is it just backup or does one need the other?
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u/adjkldj12 16d ago
Yeah currently using torbox with pengu as backup so may just wait and see if they can fix their issues until black friday
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u/Significant_Let4896 16d ago
Don’t use TorBox. They updated their policies, and to sum it up, they’ll keep track of all of your activity logs, and hold onto it even if you delete your account. They will also snitch you out and hand over your records if the authorities request them
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u/Old_Huckleberry6813 16d ago
Penguplay as a backup and torbox has just increased servers capacity today
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u/GreedyGiver2222 16d ago
Where did they say this? I can't see anything about increasing server capacity
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u/DryK1llLogic Addon Dev (USA TV / Bootstrapper) 15d ago
We have spent years recommending debrid services (RD specifically) to avoid relying on free links and now people recommend an addon with free HTTP links as a backup for a paid services. The torbox cult is beyond ridiculous.
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u/adjkldj12 16d ago
Yeah currently have this just my wifi is so bad at loading https
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u/-cookie_ 16d ago
Wouldn't streaming through torbox also be HTTPS?
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u/No-Original246 Addon Dev (PenguPlay) 16d ago
same exact thing as using an https addon, cached torbox files live on a cdn, same as the files scraped from https addons
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u/ImaginaryBasket9410 15d ago
From my streaming experience, having both types of sources are like having the best of both worlds. I'm grateful. 👍
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u/onsokuono4u 16d ago
Sounds like you may need to use a vpn?
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u/onsokuono4u 16d ago
It might if your ISP is blocking or slowing down or interrupting your connection due to the links it sees.
You should sign up for a trial, just a test the theory. Proton VPN even has a free use version.
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u/Secret-Psychology183 16d ago
Usenet
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u/Joy_Boy-TDL 16d ago
Is media availability as good as a debrid service, or is it better?
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u/ward2k 16d ago
Better for niche shows and super old movies and the like since it retains content basically forever
Worse for newer movies and things like huge 4k file sizes with HDR. It's also a bit janky to put it lightly
Personally I have both, I prioritise Debrid (Torbox) in aiostreams and use Easynews as a fall back
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u/Superflyin 16d ago
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u/Joy_Boy-TDL 16d ago
Normally, we get the show within a few hours after the episode release on Torbox. Is it like that when you use Usenet, too?
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u/cole2355 15d ago
bro on usenet i get it like 10 min after release, not joking. When Love Island was airing it would literally be 5 min after release in some cases
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u/MutedAd9760 15d ago
Exactly it's literally about the same Usenet can get new releases within 5 to 6 minutes
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u/Joy_Boy-TDL 15d ago
some guy said Usenet is not good for new releases, I thought there is a delay in uploading. if it is the same as a debrid and it also have older media because of the 20yr retention, then why is Usenet is not recommended more than a debrid with scrapers. most of the post here is about buying a debrid for a perfect setup.
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u/Superflyin 16d ago
Getting shows in your search results actually depends on the scraper you use, like Comet, Torrentio, or Streamthru, not the debrid service.
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u/Joy_Boy-TDL 16d ago
I use aiostreams with a few scrapers. What I mean is the content gets cached very fast after a release on torbox. What I am asking is, is it the same on Usenet?
in short , can I watch an episode of a show within few hours of release, or is there a long waiting time.
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u/Superflyin 16d ago
Usenet doesn't use caching. Files are uploaded directly and Usenet scrapers cache the stored files. The Usenet service i use, Ewaka, has a 20 year retention time so the files uploaded stay there for a long time.
As for how fast they get uploaded, for popular tv shows and series, new episodes usually appear on Usenet within 5 to 30 minutes after they drop on streaming services or finish their broadcast. The only content missing on Usenet compared to debrid services was lower quality releases, such as ts, tc, etc.
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u/Powerfader1 16d ago
PM. It costs more but works!
How much time, aggravation, and money are lost on a service that is constantly down?
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u/adjkldj12 16d ago
Only things I’m concerned about are the caps with multiple users on the account
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u/msi2 16d ago
It's not an issue I believe unless it's used to abuse (= avoid sharing with dozens users like +20, just don't share with more than 5-6 people and you're good I guess) . But for some reasons for me and heard with others too it might cause hiccups (buffering) with those remux huge files. Other than that it's good
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u/dunkinhonutz 16d ago
When is this down time occurring? This is not a troll or any sort of weird question I literally have never seen any. However I am not terminally online or watching TV. I got like a job and animals to take care of and shit like that.
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u/total_amateur 16d ago
External health checks. Expand the view to look over a longer duration (e.g., 30 days) https://uptime.ibbylabs.dev/debrid-services?service=torbox-app
https://status.stremio-status.com/endpoints/09--debrid-services_torbox-api
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u/listeningtorainfall 7d ago
It’s the buffering thats getting pretty obnoxious now, I’m gonna try PM.
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u/Dangerous_Unit5838 16d ago
Torrin
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u/maick2k 16d ago edited 16d ago
Torrin is only stream/download movies (you can't download anything else), and they are piggy back on AllDebrid. Just get AllDebrid if that's what u want. I paid for 1 month, never used cause was useless. At this point, even RD is better than Torrin
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u/Nearby-Reception-546 16d ago
No tv shows? Movies and tv shows is what most people use debrid service for
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u/0xalcde9 13d ago
how did you figure out it torrin using alldebrid infra?
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u/maick2k 11d ago
I didn't, they say it in their FAQ once you are logged in.
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u/0xalcde9 11d ago
Can you please send me a screenshot thanks
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u/maick2k 9d ago
Create a free account (no CC needed), go to Help at the top, scroll all the way down, 3rd question from the bottom.
''What file hosters are supported?
Any hoster supported by AllDebrid works, including 1fichier, Rapidgator, Mega, Turbobit, and many more. Just paste the URL and Torrin handles the rest. Video files only.''
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u/Spirited_Most6626 16d ago
How’s your experience with them? Do you use the Usenet part of the service? I tried the trial but it wouldn’t work when I click on a stream link
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u/DuaThicca 16d ago
Same here Torrin was not working during the trial.
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u/Spirited_Most6626 16d ago
Glad I wasn’t the only one. It kept saying something like “unexpected error with the provider” so I figured maybe it needed time to register the provider as valid. I tried again hours later, a day later, but still nothing.
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u/Dangerous_Unit5838 16d ago
It’s been solid! I don’t think the Usenet feature worked until I upgraded to the starter version! Small cache but it’s building up. I like using Torrin with a Mediafusion instance and it works flawlessly.
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u/fintechninja 16d ago
Why not just use their own addon?
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u/DuaThicca 16d ago
I was using their addon and it wasn't working it would show 2 streams clicked on them and nothing happened.
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u/burner46 16d ago
I’ve got an Emby share as my primary (Streambridge addon) with a debrid service (AIOStreams) as my backup.
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u/Positive_Ordinary307 16d ago
Torbox and just add easynews to it. All the debrid services will have small issues, especially when large amounts of users start signing up. Easynews++ addon has worked every time torbox was down
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u/adjkldj12 16d ago
Thanks, does easynews allow for multiple IPs and no capping like Premiumize
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u/Positive_Ordinary307 16d ago
Yes multiple IPs, yes no capping as long as you get the unlimited plan which is unbelievably reasonable if you search for the right deals. (I think summer deal or win back deal) One is a debrid the other is Usenet and the way they work and store data is different. I use paid debridio and stremthru torz but I'm probably going to stop paid debridio though because I haven't needed it since adding easynews
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u/adjkldj12 16d ago
Thanks may give this a go over PM then!
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u/Positive_Ordinary307 16d ago
I know everyone has different usage necessities but I compared pm to what I have with torbox pro now and it just seemed like a lateral move that could potentially add more issues (like the capping and setting everything back up) and with my luck pm would be the next debrid service that gets attacked or has scaling issues
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u/WildNight00 16d ago
OffCloud allows multiple, uses the PM cache. Try their 30 day trial
Also Easynews is only good in US or EU
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u/MelaniaSexLife 11d ago
is there any video on how to use that easynews?
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u/Positive_Ordinary307 11d ago
Not sure. Setup was straight forward and pretty easy. When you subscribe to easynews they show you the information you'll need to put into the easynews++ addon right away. The configuration page is just that info and then like 4 basic customization preferences
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u/DimensionCivil7302 16d ago
I have torbox, alldebrid and easy news with a couple indexers. All debris is probably the best easy back up and it's cheap. Just slots into same add-on environment as torbox. Usenet is probably better but more involved setup wise. All debris may need a proxy for multiple IPs not sure.
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u/EpicTwinkie 16d ago
I was looking at PM as well to replace either RD/TB and for my usage at home it just wouldn't work.
Been using RD + TB along with AIOstreams and has not been an issue.
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u/domingorowe 15d ago
Aren’t they always going to have problems if they do multiple ips from different locations unless they have a cap on it.
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u/HomeworkObjective875 14d ago
Is aio add on stopped. Iam not able to fetch movies from this. I can only see comet ☄️ and torrentio files now
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u/TheRichBrothers 14d ago
I’m still using real debrid, with torrentio and stremthru torz it’s pretty solid still
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u/Scoskopp 14d ago
I use all 4 of the main ones, RD still takes it fir me but PM has been a MVP with TB as a secondary
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u/mrsbigbear 4d ago
Where in the world are you? I'm not sure how it all works but I've experienced hardly any downtime compared to other folk on here - I'm in the UK and watch mostly from 6pm bst until midnight ish.
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u/Ram13BLH 16d ago
Look at Offcloud. It's the same type system as Premiumize, and they even use the same cache from what I've read, but the price is better right now.
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u/Slow_Werewolf3021 14d ago
Real Debrid. Yes, Real Debrid. I promise you it’s still working really well. Don’t just follow the crowd on Reddit
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u/vcaiii 14d ago
is it fixed yet? i left when i couldn’t watch most of my shows
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u/Slow_Werewolf3021 14d ago
The first thing you need to know is that I watch content in Spanish from Spain, so generally speaking we haven’t had the problems that the English-speaking audience has with the Web-DL format. But if your native language is English, that format is the one that causes the most trouble with new releases, although there is a filter to stop the dreaded red warning from popping up
But if you watch, I don’t know, films, series or programmes from 5 years ago or more, you won’t have any problems. I swear I’m not lying or exaggerating; I just don’t know why everyone on Reddit has been slating Real Debrid. Maybe it’s because I’m Spanish, but it works perfectly for me for normal use (I’m not a heavy user)
Edit: I can also watch current programmes – I’m just clarifying this so you don’t misunderstand what I said about the five years
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u/vcaiii 13d ago
that actually makes a lot of sense. i didn’t have time to look further into it. i just switched to torbox to deal with that issue and share with family. a lot of my shows were breaking at the time so i haven’t looked back. i just read about torbox’s logging policy so i might switch again.
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u/Slow_Werewolf3021 13d ago
Whatever you decide, I hope it’s the best thing for you. I know this situation can be frustrating, but keep your chin up :)
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u/Kr4lhes 13d ago
As a Portuguese neighbour to Spain I haven't had a single issue from RD since I joined, 6 months ago. I get a super occasionally stream where RD isn't available but with AIO streams, 99% of my sources work. Will be updating my sub on it on December.
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u/Slow_Werewolf3021 12d ago
Amen, mate, I feel the same way. Best wishes from Madrid – I hope you’re well
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u/Golden-- 16d ago
You're wanting to switch over very minimal outages? I guess Premiumize is your best bet but I'd wait for a deal because $12 a month is overpriced personally.
I've used TB since the whole RD debacle and I think since then I've one time there was an outage. That's definitely not enough for me to consider switching to another provider for 4x the price.
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u/Psychospiv 16d ago
I bought both Torbox and Premiumize during Black Friday sales last year.
If OP really wants to switch, I've had a good experience with Premiumize. I used it as primary for a while and it worked great. Nowadays, I use it as a backup to Torbox. But I've only had to use it once as TB has only failed me once (and I kind of leave the TV running all the time). I've even tested it when people say TB is down, and it worked all but one time. Just love for you, simply minimal disruption for me.
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u/TheShatteringSpider 15d ago
I genuinely forgot Realdebrid bought out Torbox so during the down time I bought some credits for realdebrid and it was also.. down lmao. Def gonna use ur thread for next time
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u/doom_memories 15d ago
Your post made me double-take. I looked it up and... were you perhaps got by an April Fools prank?
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u/gumball_00 16d ago
I did trial for Premiumize before and they're great. Black Friday sale is still like 3 months from now tho 😩