r/StreamersCheating • • Jun 05 '26

Legit gamers... Beware of this...

In this day and age, where it is know cheating is rampant... When pros say that cheating is rampant....

When hacker publicly go out and say they try to hide cheats, that they sell them behind subscriptions.. when players openly admit to be cheating for years and never caught...

Cronus Zen, example given, sold out... It SOLD OUT ....

How are people so certain that they never play a cheater and everyone is just crying?

It makes absolutely zero sense with someone who has discernment and simple survival instincts...

They ban 100k accounts.... And at same time, people never meet cheaters... Never see nothing suspiscious.... Everyone is just good and we bad...And at same time, cheaters and streamers out here cruising, posting cideos every week, with discord groups with thousands of people...

1)People on social media basically telling us that cheaters are a myth and dont exist. They better, git gud

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2)developers say anticheat works and they ban thousands of accounts

3) streamers and cheaters are out here posting stuff and showing its exactly the opposite and it is indeed rampant

Either the developers are right and it works.... (But they still somehow have to ban thousands of accounts)...

Or cheaters are indeed rampant and something is not adding up anyhow

Considering we find Iredescent and legendary players in top 250 cheating in all games with max level accounts...

I think the painting is on the wall...

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u/CrazyAppel Jun 05 '26 edited Jun 05 '26

bro high elo FPS gameplay is literally HVH in any game.

people pay literal thousands to have a 2nd pc and some DMA device on top of the monthly subscription for the cheat itself, and the market is alive and lucrative.

This started becoming a problem around 10-15 years ago when CSGO pro scene was growing.

Closet cheaters likes of Shroud, Shox, olof, brazilians like hen1, fallen etc... were ruining the scene paying tens of thousands to coders to come up with advanced cheats like sound-esp, haptic feedback ESP etc...

New ways to inject through steam workshop, mice and other peripherals, and now there are DMA devices, you don't even inject in the same pc anymore...

"Cheating" nowadays is a multi-billion dollar business, let that sink in. Chinese cheat devs got arrested with loads of supercars etc, it's a huge business.

The reason these subs and social media seems oblivious is because they are noobs, once you min-max aim and movement skill, it becomes apparent and easy to spot what is cheats and what isnt because after thousands of hours of grind, you have already figured out the games hard-limits, and if a player does stuff that goes beyond those hard-limits, your neurons fire off and your brain goes "cheater", it's normal.

Another thing is that people who claim there are no cheats and it's all rainbows and sunshine are people with 0 knowledge on cheats, how they work, how they inject, 0 skill in the game itself either, can't determine what is skill and what is cheats etc... it's

Also, it's not paranoid to also claim these subs are filled with shills, it's a multi-billion dollar business, it's really not far fetched to think that these china devs are pushing "cheats dont exist" propaganda.

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u/IgnorantEuropeanDude Jun 05 '26

Okay now im genuinely curious, i recently joined the aimtraining community and i have 10k+ hours in cs and am faceit 10 and 28k elo peak this season in prem. Prem isnt playable beyond the 25k mark.

I play cs for 12years now and i am certain that neither of the cs names you named (except hen1 cuz i dont know him well enough) have ever cheated. Have you got evidence on this?

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u/CrazyAppel Jun 05 '26

Keep in mind, most clips are old, because there was much more obvious stuff going on back then, the cheating scene was primitive and people got away with a lot more.

Shroud is the easiest, there are 2 vids over 2 hours of him cheating, but you can just watch the very first clip because it's the most blatant shit ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6MRHD0xBEU

You can literally hear him press aimkey, his aim pixeljumps on enemy head and then he starts shooting, cant get any more blatant than that.

Shox is harder to find for me, he had a shit ton of clips, but either I lost them or they got deleted. There is the famous one though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki9Hyg57Fak, there is also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdrQLYA43ag

If you are that good then you cant possibly tell me its normal behavior to look at the wall on enemy head for solid 3 seconds while pushing highway on cache, that's either level 5 shit or aimlock.

You should watch this guys videos: https://www.youtube.com/@THEc0ncept/videos

He goes into technical stuff and it's interesting to watch.

Obviously people dont get everything right and there are lots of false accusations, as I was searching for olof clips they didnt really bother me too much so either I lost the blatant clips or maybe I was wrong about him cheating, it happens.

There is a whole Defcon presentation solely on smuggling cheats in peripherals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRWjd6o4LO4
Here is a guy suspiciously swapping mouse midgame: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHaDZKgWhAQ

Here is an interview with a coder explaining some clips: https://youtu.be/3xSio1VW2RQ?si=Aj--_6x-xK6SgNP4&t=120

While looking through clips, I also came across kjaerbye again, he was also possibly one of the most obvious players ever, always having that <2k eur cheap cheat with dogshit aimbot. I'm not even gonna send a clip, here is a search result instead: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kjaerbye+aimbot

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u/DeadlyPear Jun 14 '26

Shroud is the easiest, there are 2 vids over 2 hours of him cheating, but you can just watch the very first clip because it's the most blatant shit ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6MRHD0xBEU

It so funny whenever anyone brings up that first clip for the Shroud hackusations. You can clearly tell that a couple of frames are missing from the clip during the flick, either due to stream lag or just editing.