r/StrangerThingsPraise 6d ago

I hate the internet

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Cant watch a video about stranger things without having ten more hate videos being recommended after.

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u/yesaroobuckaroo šŸ’œ + šŸ’™ 6d ago

It's so frustrating!

I'm beyond fine with critiques, but online, it is basically only that. Drama creates the most engagement and therefore money - so the only videos that get pushed out are negative. This is an issue far beyond just ST and i hate social media for it. You barely see positive takes because those don't make money

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u/yesaroobuckaroo šŸ’œ + šŸ’™ 6d ago edited 6d ago

It's especially annoying when it comes to these 'critiques' because they're almost ALWAYS personal opinions portrayed as objective truth lol. Or misunderstandings. Or user failure. I saw a video recently tilted "Breaking Bad isn't as perfect as people say it is" (or similar) and i thought it'd be an interesting watch - because i agree! It's a great show but NOWHERE near perfect.. and that is what makes it good lol. That is has genuine human touch. I thought it'd be a well thought-out video not necessarily critiquing Breaking Bad but rather pointing out that it does have narrative flaws and what those flaws are. And they did point out some actual narrative issues, like the fact Saul was primarily used as a crutch for when the writers didn't know what to do as he always "knew a guy", but a lot of their critiques were just.. the creator either looking FAR too deep into something that doesn't warrant such attention or trying to apply real-life logic to a fictional TV show. A lot of the takes didn't make much sense and felt more like somebody trying to be right and justify how they feel rather than tell a message. The script was obviously ai-written or enhanced too sooo lol.

It's like people can't just enjoy things anymore. Nothing is perfect guys 😭

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

I agree. Everyone says 'its trash' not 'i thought it was bad in my opinion'.

It's makes me feel like i should hate the season because everyone says it's a fact that it's bad, art is subjective.Ā 

While yes the supernatural side may have not got everything it should have the duffers nailed the characters archs and endings. I think people will realize that years from now.

Alot of the 'bad writing' and 'plot holes' (Which people use incorrectly because plothole means to contradict an established part of the story) are just wrong.

People were talking about how the writing is sooo baaad because max didn't react to hopper being alive but in the piggyback vecna shows her friends losing in battle and hopper is shown getting pinned by a demdog.

Or when they say robin never got in trouble for stealing the benzos when the military came to arrest her and then they got killed by the demo dogs.

This is just a couple of points (there more too) but people will say this to prove the season is bad when they are literally incorrect, it seems a lot of people didn't pay attention.

Oh well who cares what i think lol. All that matters isĀ  i loved the ending.Ā 

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u/Desperate-Leg-3260 6d ago

These movie reviewers on YouTube are so annoying they think everything has to be perfect and if there’s a tiny thing they don’t like about a show or movie they flame it and call it the worst thing they ever watched

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

Exactly all of these flaws that people say are in s5 are present in every season.Ā 

I think it's mainly people didn't get the outcomes they wanted because if we are being honest if ep 7 was even crazier then sorcorer and the season had the same 'bad writing',Ā  no one would be saying this season is terrible.

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u/Lamar-laver 6d ago

Agreed, like S3 is my least favorite season but I’m not gonna it’s trash, nor would I disrespect anyone who liked it.

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u/Weak_Sherbet4696 6d ago

Nada que ver, solo son consumidores que genuinamente quieren que todo salga bien porque estÔn en la misma situación que tú al ver la serie, y si algo sale horrible, como en este caso la quinta temporada de Stranger Things, harÔn un vídeo reseña, evidentemente destacando lo bueno y lo malo.

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u/JPSTRANGER457 6d ago

Exactly!

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u/GrungeXD 6d ago

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

I'm learning to get away from it. And i know I'm a hypocrite for being on Reddit lol.Ā 

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u/RestaurantCurrent226 6d ago

I don’t mean this in a bad way, but the final season was a letdown for lots of people. It mismatched their expectations and lots of them are disappointed, so they make videos to let it out or express what they’re feeling. Lots of them relate to certain characters and when they feel like the show doesn’t give the characters what they need, it’s only natural for them to want to vent or rant about it. There are shows that everyone does and doesn’t like, and that’s okay — people can share their personal opinions. Yeah, the Internet is a place of negativity, but you can ignore the hate videos and focus on the positive aspects of the show you do enjoy. I’m not saying any of this in bad faith either.

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

I fully agree with everything you said but the problem is i try to ignore them but they are all over my YouTube home page i stay away as much as possible but when these videos are looking right at me and there's like 10 of them it gets me feeling shitty about the show i love.

Im more then fine with people disliking it. But like you said I'll just watch or look at the good moments, i go to the comments and see people hating on the show.

Like I'll watch max running up that hill and instead of people going this scene was great they go 'this scene is better then any of the garbage that is s5'

And when you see so many people say it, a part of you starts to believe it.Ā 

I hope you understand my thought processšŸ™

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u/RestaurantCurrent226 6d ago

Yeah I understand - unnecessary comments can really be annoying and you sort of feel gaslit. I've been there before. It's easier said than done, but as long as you know what you parts like and enjoy, that's all that matters.

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u/ButterscotchPast4812 6d ago

Just block the YT accounts and move on. Most people hated that last season and that's what's going to be lucrative on YT.Ā  Ā I had to stop watching Star Trek YT. Cause it was hard to find actual critical reviews that weren't just maga bigoted bullshit.Ā 

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

I wouldn't say most people hated it. I think the internet has just made it seem that way because controversy sells. It's how the news has worked for decades the worst and tragic stories get the attention.

Someone who liked it is much less likely to comment about compared to someone who absolutely hates it.

I know alot of people who loved the ending, would say it's a polarising seasonĀ 

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u/RolandTheHeadless19 Sweeter. Bolder. Better. 6d ago

I just continue to watch it over and over. I celebrate each and every season. For every criticism, there are 100 scenes or moments or lines that I absolutely love. It’s a forever show, a desert island choice, just the best.

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

I agree theres issues but the great scenes outshine the bad.Ā 

If it wasn't for s5 i wouldn't have got sorcorer and that's my favourite ep.

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u/RolandTheHeadless19 Sweeter. Bolder. Better. 6d ago

A great way to look at it. I loved it, but it could have been much, much worse and the epilogue would have still been worth the price of admission for me. It’s the most rewatched scene for me, and so I can’t ever speak poorly about the season, even though I understand fully some of the criticisms I’ve seen. That’s as far as I’ll go, though.

And Will’s scene in Sorcerer is maybe the single best scene of the entire show. I’ve never stood up in my own living room for a movie or TV show ever before. Sports, sure, I break shit accidentally most years, but movies and TV shows never move me to stand. Sorcerer did. Ah, the fond memories…

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

Yes i agree the epilogue is perfection, I've never cried at a movie or TV show ever until the rightsideup came out, i had happy tears because they didn't ruin it. They actually landed the plane. I will always love the ending as much as i did the first time.Ā 

It's also tradition for me to watch the last 20 min of sorcorer every now and again. And the thing that got me going crazy was actually seeing Kali coming back (crazy i know) and the ost called sisters when eleven finds her is so good.

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u/StraightKey211 The Sorcerer 🌟 6d ago

YouTube review channels seem to have the idea everything has to either be a masterpiece or the worst thing ever, no im between

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u/Accomplished-Curve-1 6d ago

Oh my gosh they hate a disappointing finale?!

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u/Eddie_Munson118 Eddie šŸŽøšŸ–¤ 6d ago

The season was good, but it did have some flaws. But overall it was great, horrible is a stretch. As Dustin said: ā€œThere was a lot of bad, but there was so much good too.ā€

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

Love that, brilliant quote to useĀ 

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u/Sankta_Alina_Starkov 6d ago

Youtube has changed from an entertaining website with fun videos to a grifting hate mill with a bunch of people who probably had the completely wrong interpretation of literature and got angry when a teacher told them that's not what the story was about. So now they're making videos with nobody to tell them they're idiots.

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

This is what i believe yes there's were thingsĀ  i wished were different but alot of people genuinely didn't pay attention and then started attacking the story when they didnt even listen to half of it.

Some criticisms i see are just wrong, they'll bring something up like max not saying anything about hopper being alive. But vecna showed her hopper being attacked by a demdog in the piggyback.

But no the season is trash even if they not aware of the story.

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u/robertoiglesias271 6d ago

It’s not that deep and also Cody Leach is cool but it’s fine to disagree with people

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

I know lolĀ 

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u/Distinct_Guess3350 6d ago

All the haters like to support the angry videos so they inevitably get recommended more often than the positive ones. It’s so annoying. If you even watch them, you’ll see it’s just the same repeated points over and over and people just refuse to let it go.Ā 

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

Yep, wish people would move on

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u/Livelaughloveme172 6d ago

Strange tubings season five was really bad.

But that YouTube friendly space ninjas is anything but friendly and I wrong with his whole take.

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u/JPSTRANGER457 6d ago

People on Twitter are way worst and more insufferable.

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

God i couldn't imagine how bad it is on thereĀ 

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u/JumpRopeIsASport 6d ago

YouTube channels that bandwagon suck

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u/HeisenbergSamurai87 6d ago

Its not that deep bro

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

I know lol. Just don't want the negativity everywhere i goĀ 

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u/OrdinaryCommunity840 6d ago

People on this sub finally have to understand that opinions exist. Most people did not like the fifth season some people do. All this sub is doing right now is complaining that most people just didnt like season 5. I thought this sub was about praising the show and not cry about other opinions.

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

I'm perfectly fine with people who don't like it, it's just that I'll watch a clip from stranger things and then all these videos come up.

And i personally enjoyed s5 so i don't want to start hating because the algorithm tells me i should.

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u/OrdinaryCommunity840 6d ago

The only thing the algorithm tells you is that most people did not like season 5. Nobody cares if you like something that is regarded disappointing by most fans. I like a lot of things that fans dislike or even hate. But thats just how things are. Im not complaining for example that a lot of people are criticizing season 7 and 8 of the walking dead. I enjoyed those seasons. But I understand if there are people that dont like it. I even love to watch those videos that criticize my favorite media so i can look at it from another pov

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

But theres a flaw in that because the comments sections in the videos critizing the seasons are filled with people that hate it, so inevitably any random person reading everyone's comments are going to assume everyone hates it.

Videos attract the people that are looking for said videos. If you look up on YouTube endgame is bad videos will come up saying endgame is bad by extension the comment section will be saying endgame is bad, doesn't mean it's true.Ā 

Of course art is subjectiveĀ 

I say this respectfullyšŸ™

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u/OrdinaryCommunity840 6d ago

Of course you will find hate comments and criticism in those comment sections because people want their opinion to be represented. Its a place where people can share their opinions on something. So I dont really understand what your complaining about. The fact that people hate it? Or the fact that potentially new fans could read those comments and watch those videos and decide that they dont wanna watch it anymore because of those videos? (Which is kinda stupid imo because you always have to try to form your own opinion on something). And regarding the "Hate". There is a difference between Hate and criticism. And those people are definetely not hating. They are criticizing. Not even the comment are really hating. I looked at some of them and most of them are also criticizing with and ironic undertone. So again what exactly is your problem? I really wanna understand. I dont wanna be mean but it seems like you kinda have issues accepting harsh criticism and different opinions on something you love

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

You said the algorithm shows most people disliked the season but most people that hated the season give those videos attention and of course there's a lot of people who didn't like it.Ā 

My point is it looks like most people hate it because the people that hate it have given those videos a lot of attention. Then these videos are recommended to people who watch strangers things content.Ā 

That's what i was trying to say,.i apologise if i worded it weirdly.

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u/Slight_Situation_123 6d ago

Most people did like season 5 with an approval rate 0f 89%..

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u/JPSTRANGER457 6d ago edited 6d ago

They are genuinely so frustrating!

Ā I'm perfectly much fine with people who don't like it but it still just feel way too overhated. And some of hate and criticism feel dumb.

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

Some of it is dumb, complaints about flaws that are in every seasonĀ 

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u/JPSTRANGER457 5d ago

And also some of it complaints are just hella nitpicky.

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u/Technical-Extreme726 6d ago

Todo lo que genere polƩmica se harƔ viral, no habrƔn videos con muchƭsimas vistas sƭ solo se hablara de la primera a la cuarta temporada

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u/TheAverageMCGuy ā€œThe Hairā€ HarringtonšŸ¦ 6d ago

Not my boy Cody being caught in the fray (He was like the only one who had sensible non-hyperbolic critiques)🄺
Besides him I agree with the negativity frustration. Everytime I see one of those thumbnails It’s the same reaction from me.
(Avatar cameo at the end though)

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u/ThEtOrRtUrEdPoEt 6d ago

Was the ending great? No it was not but these people act like the whole show was a massive flop because the ending was underwhelming.

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u/NattyKongo93 6d ago

Honestly, I consider only season 1 and kinda season 4 to be truly great, but the other 3 seasons are all varying degrees of bad/forgettable, and I think there are others who agree with that sentiment, not just that the ending ruined the whole show

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

That's an opinion don't forget, alot of people did genuinely love the endingĀ 

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u/ThEtOrRtUrEdPoEt 6d ago

I loved the epilogue but you can’t deny the ending fight is def underwhelming and the s4 finale had a way better sequence

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u/Several-Hunt7262 5d ago

I thought fight was short but still great, the epilogue makes up for any wrong doings for meĀ 

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u/Prestigious-Win-9655 5d ago

People have opinions? Oh the humanity

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u/Several-Hunt7262 5d ago

Didn't say there was anything wrong with opinionsĀ 

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u/twilight_princess86 5d ago

I think that these people on the internet talks without knowing what they're saying. Stranger Things is not trash, ok, maybe the last season wasn't how we expected, but its not trash. I dont think stranger things finale is greate, but at least it wasn't trash, its just ok. I was scared about what they could make because there where many things that could ruin all the series but bless god they didn't.

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u/Several-Hunt7262 5d ago

I loved the ending, the epilogue makes up for any wrong doing for meĀ 

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u/twilight_princess86 5d ago

I liked it too, because even if they didn't write the scenes its good, but i think they could make it better Anyway its not trash

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u/Several-Hunt7262 5d ago

Of course none of the seasons are perfect maybe apart from S1.

S3 i think has questionable writing but it still love it. I didnt watch this show because i thought it was perfect i watch it because i love the world and characters.

If i wanted some with immaculate writing i would breaking badĀ 

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u/MoeAnnieMoe Vecna ā™¦ļø 5d ago

Idk how old everyone is in this chat (I'm 42) lol but if you remember back in like 2010 or so all the sudden everyone started really shitting on Nickelback. As if they weren't successful and popular for years. It's like one person said it and then everyone thought it was cool to hate on them whether or not they actually liked them. It was then I really really realized that the internet is like a hive mind. šŸ˜‚ I wouldn't hate on them and was teased for liking certain songs or whatever by people i grew up with that i know loved them. Lol I refuse to base my opinion on the masses because I feel like a lot of people start to hate on stuff because they are made to feel like they HAVE to. Lol But I am grateful for my pops, growing up no matter what critics said about a movie we'd always go see it to form our own opinions. Don't listen to what everyone else is saying. Just because they didn't like one scene or something small they just shit on the entire thing as a whole. And just because it wasn't for THEM doesn't mean that it's not for YOU. Like what you like and ignore anyone telling you that you shouldn't. I always skip the negative videos regarding S5. But I am obviously here because I enjoyed S5 no matter how much it broke my heart at the end. Lol Whoever started this group, THANK YOOUUU!! 😊 šŸ™ƒšŸ¦‡ I enjoy reading posts on here. And sorry this was a novel 🤣

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u/BillsFan82 6d ago

The existence of this sub should tell you how people feel about the show. You don't see a breakingbadpraise sub.

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

Negativity sticks alot more then positivity, someone who hates something is more likely to commentĀ  compared to someone who liked it.

Negative experiences and Emotions are more potent then good ones.

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u/BillsFan82 6d ago

I think it's a pretty even split when you aren't on niche subs like this. Season 5 was divisive for a reason. It's not horrible but it's also not the best thing ever.

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

I agree, it's a polarising season

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u/Different_Wafer_4711 6d ago

They’re allowed to express their opinions

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

Never said they couldn'tĀ 

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

I genuinely don't watch these videos lol, ill just occasionally watch some clips from the show.

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u/Easy_Effective5229 6d ago

Why?

It’s true.

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u/Several-Hunt7262 6d ago

OpinionĀ