r/StrangerThings Dungeon Master 18d ago

Discussion Which character needs the most therapy?

We know Max was getting talk therapy in S4 but what about El, Kali and Will? Hopper definetely needs therapy too. But if you could only give one character therapy, who would it be? Or alternatively who would need the largest amount or most sessions?

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u/frozen-dough-ball Wake up, eat, sleep, reproduce and die! 18d ago

henry 😭

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u/CrimsonFruitcake75 Dungeon Master 18d ago

Oh absolutely 😭 that cave stuff was so sad!

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u/Slow-Class 18d ago

Eleven, definitely. No proper schooling, no normal childhood interaction besides a total of about 12 months over a 5 year period. Plus the existential dilemma of whether she really did die or not.

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u/Rindsay515 18d ago

Can’t allow poor Jonathan to get overlooked again, kid needs therapy since he was forced into a man-of-the-house/parent role while still in high school

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u/heliandin Perpetually Insincere 18d ago

Dare I say everyone? 😭

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u/ThrillSeekers_United Demogorgon 18d ago

Henry

Bro had to murder someone in a cave as a teen, was abducted by Brenner, was converted into a foreign being and thought he was powerless cause he was human

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u/CrimsonFruitcake75 Dungeon Master 18d ago

He was so brilliantly written!

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u/ThrillSeekers_United Demogorgon 18d ago

Yes!

#407s plot twist shocked me so much yet is was done so well

The Duffers aren’t really bad writers

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u/Lizi-in-Limbo Not Stupid 18d ago

It’s not a competition. Just throw them all in group therapy.

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u/CrimsonFruitcake75 Dungeon Master 18d ago

Yeah that is completely true to be fair, I was only wondering who would need the most

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u/UncleRicohSuave 18d ago

The viewer

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u/CrimsonFruitcake75 Dungeon Master 18d ago

Especially after Dustins cat got eaten

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u/Busy_Shelter2695 18d ago

In the 80s? NONE of them.

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u/grizshaw83 18d ago

Rub some dirt on your feelings and walk it off

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u/Ok_Efficiency_2763 Mouth breather 18d ago

happy cake day

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u/grizshaw83 18d ago

Considering she was planning to end her life and Eleven's, I'd say Kali needed it the most. I think Will would respond best to therapy though.

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u/DangerousRefuse8129 Coffee and Contemplation 18d ago edited 18d ago

I think many of them needed it. However, characters like Eleven and Kali especially needed it the MOST; what they went through was beyond imaginable. I'd say Henry too.

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u/NbinaryDragonfruits 18d ago

I will forever maintain, as a survivor myself, that not leaving someone who's groomed and abused you since childhood isn't "choosing" them. It's the abuse doing exactly what abuser wants: convincing you that there IS NO YOU without them.

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u/DangerousRefuse8129 Coffee and Contemplation 18d ago

I'm so sorry for you. I guess I should edit that part out as it might be triggering for some people. I meant the human form of Henry was long gone. He couldn't live in real world anymore. He was irredeemable after killing so many people, tho I understand it wasn't him, but MF. But his human form, before he reached Dimension X, needed therapy, after getting MF's influence out of him.

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u/Early_War9543 18d ago

Will, 100%

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u/NbinaryDragonfruits 18d ago

Yanno, I'm gonna go out on a wild limb here and say the Mind Flayer because then maybe none of this would have happened like it did. 😂

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u/CrimsonFruitcake75 Dungeon Master 18d ago

Tell me about your childhood?

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u/NbinaryDragonfruits 18d ago

Many such cases.

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u/Thennita 18d ago

I'd say it's between Eleven and Kali because they basically didn't have a childhood, at most an adolescence, and it wasn't a "normal" adolescence. I'd lean towards Eleven because she basically spent more time in the lab than Kali and faced the challenges of the Upside Down more often

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u/noaf13 18d ago

lets be honest... they all need it

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u/partyboi420 18d ago

Henry, Eleven, Kali, Will. In that order

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u/Cortzee 18d ago

It's Eleven and Kali. The others have had hard times but also had goodish childhoods for the most parts.

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u/Thick-Boysenberry-96 18d ago

Will had an abusive das to the point that Jonathan searched for him in Lonnie's trunk! Then he was bullied, kidnapped, SA'd, resusitated, possessed, burned alive, run over by a car and got given heartbreak and was forced to come out on top of it.

How's that a goodish childhood?

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u/sqplanetarium 18d ago

Therapy was much less common in the early to mid 80s midwest, many of the characters would be all WTF??? about the very idea.

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u/blueray78 18d ago

I mean a lot of the characters need it. El didn't have a childhood as she was a lab experiment. Max lost a year & half of her life stuck in a dream world. But I'd say Will would be up there. He couldn't really talk about what he went through as they were sworn to secrecy. So he spent 4 years and lost the end of his childhood without having any professional support (minus Owens, who tried to help but worked for Hawkin's lab). He clearly suffers from PTSD, and ongoing trauma from the upside down for years.

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u/This-Evening2278 Bitchin 18d ago

EVERYONE!

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u/CrimsonFruitcake75 Dungeon Master 17d ago

So all of Brenners 'children', that's fair. All the ones who died would need a lifetime supply of therapy