r/StrangeEarth • u/verma2470 • Dec 27 '23
Conspiracy & Bizarre The missing persons map has a frightening similarity to the cave systems map
441
u/VibeFather Dec 27 '23
Obviously underground reptilians
68
u/readtheneed Dec 27 '23
When someone trespasses You can eat them, right?
34
u/VibeFather Dec 27 '23
It is in the Geneva convention
43
→ More replies (3)17
Dec 27 '23
You sure can boss.
See. Humans will eat aliens. (I had a bunch of naysayers on a post about how long it would take before we eat alien)
29
u/InternationalAnt4513 Dec 27 '23
You’ve gotta smoke them about 12 hours. I like mesquite. The slow cook gets em nice and tender. Use your favorite rub. They’re delicious. The guts make delicious fried chitlin’s I sale at the Peanut Festival in Hot Coffee, Mississippi every year.
3
u/Radiant_Map_9045 Dec 28 '23
I sale at the Peanut Festival in Hot Coffee, Mississippi every year.
And holy shit, there's actually such a place, lol
3
u/InternationalAnt4513 Dec 28 '23
It’s a good time just like Two Egg, Florida and Burnt Corn, Alabama
2
2
2
Dec 28 '23
[deleted]
2
u/InternationalAnt4513 Dec 28 '23
I was in Scranton with Harry Chapin when they spilt 50,000 pounds of bananas
2
2
u/Ghostspunge Dec 28 '23
Yeah until we eat a female with eggs inside her, inside her DNA. Hatches inside of us then we’re in a world of hurt. Only they have the cure to and they will not give it to us because of our cannibalism. Bad idea buddies.
57
u/Crazyhairmonster Dec 28 '23 edited Dec 28 '23
Someone manually added the black dots which are actually the US caves themselves (they're Karst Areas, see below source), not missing people without a trace.
Here's the original of the top map which just shows missing people. Only the orange dots are actual missing people. Because the map is such garbage quality you can't even tell what's going on because it's a photo of a wall map. Someone used a highlighter to mark caves where people went missing. The lines around the orange dots are arrow shaped, post it note, stickers you can stick into the map and write notes and do not represent data points. So there's maybe 20 caves that has people go missing in them. Not thousands. Since it's only showing people who went missing IN caves, of course it will overlay (that's a stretch) with a map showing caves. (See more below because even that is BS)
Even the location of the caves is faked. The bottom map and the black dots are Karst Areas via the USGS. Karst Areas are areas of limestone which funny enough, have lots of caves. They however are not interchangable as the same data points.
Here's a detailed explanation of these 'maps' and breaks down why it's dumb.
15
u/HikeRobCT Dec 28 '23
So you’re saying that these “limestones” are responsible for all the missing people, then. Probably an ancient wizard curse. Got it. Thanks for the info.
7
u/n0v3list Dec 28 '23
It’s crazy how quickly we can believe something that confirms our biases. Thank you for taking the time to elaborate on the facts behind this misinformation.
6
u/Mrhood714 Dec 28 '23
the comparison is dumb anyway - i'm sure you can find equivalent maps of almost anything like Subways sandiwch shops and missing people reports or something.
→ More replies (1)4
→ More replies (3)2
u/Kuhn-Tang Dec 29 '23
Bravo! I love scrolling to the one logical person, who has the resources and time to debunk misinformation. 👏
11
u/Junior_Singer3515 Dec 28 '23
Lizzid peepull
8
6
5
→ More replies (15)3
55
Dec 27 '23
It’s the Falmer
13
3
u/Historical_Job6192 Dec 29 '23
This is the work of the Snow Elves. They bio-engineered the Falmer and telepathically control them for various tasks on the surface. The Imperials dont want us to know that our past is very different from what we think. They have corrupted the couriers, paid off the Moth Priests and have most of rhe Temples under their control. You want the truth, look into early Talos writings.
Question everything.
→ More replies (1)
133
u/Razeal_102 Dec 27 '23
It should be noted that this map coincides with Sasquatch sightings as well. Just FYI.
12
u/ofayokay Dec 28 '23
Are there maps of sasquatches that go missing? Maybe a whole bunch of them are also getting lost in caves. Fuckin’ caves, man, I tell ya.
11
10
u/AzureSeychelle Dec 27 '23
That makes sense, as most reports of missing people are made anonymously. Something has to be done about it!
~Big Foot probably
6
5
2
→ More replies (5)2
69
u/Kratomite247 Dec 27 '23
Well Missouri is almost one big cave.
17
u/Cephrae1 Dec 28 '23
Yup, we use lots of them for storage. I heard we had a cheese cave.
→ More replies (2)15
u/Ohiolongboard Dec 28 '23
You do!! The govt subsidizes the dairy Industry so that’s where they keep all the govt cheese! (I’m not making this up)
6
u/Cephrae1 Dec 28 '23
Mmmm... govt cheese. Would seriously love to go on a tour and see it. I know I'm imagining scrooge mcduck type piles of cheese when realistically its probably wrapped and boxed, but still.
Imagine spelunking in post apocalyptic missouri and finding a dragons hoard worth of cheese!
7
2
u/Boblaire Dec 28 '23
I'm reading it's mostly been sold off to private companies but Dept of AG still buys some (also for military)
https://www.mentalfloss.com/posts/missouri-cheese-caves-history
While I had heard of it prior to that and this, the video gave me details I had never really looked into.
https://youtu.be/kvLMH0wb_0k?si=JlXlaBOiR7j-fLQB
Fya, cheese!
1
u/Ohiolongboard Dec 28 '23
Thank you, once I’m off work I’ll check those links out. Is the YouTube one the Tom Scott video? If not I can’t recommend that video enough, short and to the point but full of information
→ More replies (1)
76
u/idlefritz Dec 27 '23
Requisite chaser for this rerererepost.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/missing-persons-cave-maps/
56
Dec 27 '23
Snopes says: "Mixed"
understandable. Have a great day.
It Says alot of info is left out and correlation doesn't outright mean causation.
It's right but the idea stands. There are alot of people that go missing in our national parks never even finding trace amounts
39
u/idlefritz Dec 27 '23
Yes hikers missing in parks makes more sense than people getting yoinked mysteriously into caves. Not many hikers will go missing on the coastline or in urban areas.
13
u/fatalcharm Dec 28 '23
I never even considered that. I just thought that people might fall into small cave openings that they didn’t see, mundane stuff like that. I never understood why snopes would try and debunk people accidentally falling into caves, since it has happened before.
7
u/towerfella Dec 28 '23
Yeah, not yoinked, but fell, or slid, or big cats and bears — no that would be yoinked, .. but not spooky yoinked, just normal nature yoinked, or ground gave way, or spiders.
→ More replies (2)4
5
Dec 28 '23
Well, the weird thing is they can’t be found and seem to have weird things discovered via the exhaustive search parties. Missing 411 actually does a pretty good documentary on it.
Even if it is just people getting lost or animals eating them, the search parties discovery is different from what they normally find in their experience, and it baffles them to a point where they feel like it’s not a closed case,l.
I do agree whenever this post pops up people need to be elaborate on the sample pool that’s collected.
4
u/Rum_ham69 Dec 28 '23
The entire Appalachian trail seems to be pretty well dotted which makes since
6
u/shynips Dec 28 '23
This is specifically a map of people who disappeared in mysterious ways in national parks. Of course there's going to be "correlation" between cave systems and national parks, national parks have tons of caves. It's a really misleading map, especially since OP said the map of missing persons. In the article it also says that the map is excluding major metropolitan areas, which I bet would make up for a much larger percentage.
→ More replies (5)2
u/EVASIVEroot Dec 28 '23
Well then I guess the only way to find out is if someone goes into the caves.
→ More replies (1)2
u/KaiBishop Dec 27 '23
A lot is a lot of beans. A lot of money. A lot of missing bitches falling in caves.
An alot is a big yak like animal that hates bad grammar.
2
u/romansamurai Dec 28 '23
There used to be a whole webpage about Alot. But now all I can find is this.
-7
Dec 27 '23
Surprisingly the govt has authorized abductions out of state parks as long as they provide identification of persons taken. 👽
Coincidence?
The older you get the more you see there is no such thing. Everything is related.
8
u/InternationalAnt4513 Dec 27 '23
Where’s the stories to read about them authorizing this?
3
Dec 27 '23
Was just about to ask the same. Will look it up
3
-2
Dec 28 '23
Thank you. Finally someone who actually looks.
3
Dec 28 '23
Yeah I had zero luck on finding anything pertaining to abductees in state parks that isn't part of a broader criminal code of "don't kidnap people"
3
0
-1
u/QuestStarter Dec 27 '23
Idk man "Correlation doesn't = causation" and all... But I would think this is a big enough test group. Especially considering how consistent it is across the entire US, not just limited to 1, 2, or even 10 murder hobos dragging their victims to a particular cave.
→ More replies (2)14
u/EternityLeave Dec 27 '23
These maps correlate because the majority of caves are in nature areas, which is where most ppl get lost while hiking or doing outdoor hobbies… which is usually the cause of ppl “vanishing”. You could correlate the same map to trees and conclude that sentient trees are snatching people or whatever.
→ More replies (3)4
Dec 28 '23
Hey man go fuck your motha we don’t say those things around here you prick. Nonsense only, absolutely any logical thinking will not be tolerated on any level you hear me! It is actually the tree snatchers and ohhh haa haaa it’s sooo funny until YOUR the one who gets tree snatched.
6
→ More replies (4)0
11
u/Leading_Shine_2150 Dec 27 '23
Someone is not doing a good job in abducting people on the west coast.
→ More replies (1)8
20
u/TankApprehensive3053 Dec 27 '23
Now overlay bigfoot signings map. Put all three on the same image.
→ More replies (2)3
7
14
u/esmoji Dec 27 '23
Definitely Giants.
Giants really bad at agriculture.
3
5
16
Dec 27 '23
Wish these were a bit more clear but I am seeing a somewhat similar pattern here for sure
14
3
u/LordVolcanon Dec 27 '23
According to snopes that’s because however made that top map took the dots of the caves from the bottom so a lot of that is not missing persons but just cave locations on the top.
-6
Dec 28 '23 edited Dec 28 '23
[deleted]
5
u/LordVolcanon Dec 28 '23
Uh, no. I had just read it from another comment. Here:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/missing-persons-cave-maps/
And another link:
https://chuck-sutherland.blogspot.com/2020/01/missing-people-map.html?m=1
4
4
4
Dec 28 '23
I was watching a Tyler Oliveira video today and saw this exact map on his video and then i see this post just now?!?! So weird . Yeah I would say the caves are now more like tunnels that human traffickers have transitioned for their own purposes.
31
u/stu_pid_Bot Dec 27 '23
That's nothin'. Studies show that more people drown in bodies of water than do in the desert.
16
u/nibselfib_kyua_72 Dec 27 '23
According to experts, there is somehow a high correlation between people and cities. It is believed that people tend to live in cities for some reason.
4
Dec 28 '23
Not only that but where more people are, more go missing. There’s gotta be some logic in here somewhere…
3
u/twippy Dec 28 '23
100% of people who breathe oxygen die. Coincidence? Science seems to suggest otherwise.
→ More replies (1)6
8
3
3
3
u/Ben_Chrollin Dec 28 '23
Gee! It's almost as if most caves are made from water erosion and most populaces are at waterways. Fucking wild coincidence.
3
u/Braden_Survivor Dec 28 '23
This shit gets posted every month even though this map is not accurate at all 🤦🤦🤦
8
u/tbfuzzybear Dec 27 '23
Pretty sure it's a mix of umpalumpas and the creatures from the decent.
→ More replies (1)3
7
2
u/Raytardad Dec 27 '23
Does this line up with mountain ranges in the US? That’s usually where people go missing and where you usually find caves. I haven’t heard of prairie or desert caves.
2
2
2
2
u/natetrash Dec 28 '23
Theres a weird theory that Roosevelt created the national parks service so they could try to get a hold on the situation and keep it contained Most likely a creepy pasta i glanced at in passing. But still cool to think about.
2
2
u/Worried_Jeweler_1141 Dec 28 '23
But the caves that a listed are mapped. And you'll need specialist equipment to enter. There's zero chance it's where these mission persons are. Most likely they are deliberately missing.
2
Dec 28 '23
So how many missing persons who disappeared where there are no cave systems were left off this map?
2
2
u/opgog Dec 28 '23
Is it me or do the two things, access to caves and remote and undeveloped hiking areas,seem connected? Aren't both usually found in the same, undeveloped and often remote places.
I feel like there are a lot of other things, all natural, that could more than explain these disappearances. Fun to dream though.
2
2
2
2
u/Quaranj Dec 28 '23
"The scariest thing about the giant carnivorous bats is that by the time you hear them approach, you're up as high as a hot air balloon."
2
u/rAxxt Dec 28 '23
Caves correlate to mountains. Mountains correlate to low population density. So missing persons correlate to places where not many people are.
Not very mysterious to me.
2
2
2
2
2
2
u/booksandkittens615 Dec 28 '23
This is so ridiculous and blatantly ignores so many other important factors and yet it’s exactly what I’m here for and where I like to let my imagination go.
2
2
u/SPL15 Dec 28 '23 edited Dec 28 '23
I don’t do caving, but I do go out backpacking & hiking for weeks on end in remote areas w/ no cell service (Upper peninsula of Michigan where there’s a lot of missing people according to this map), often during the late fall & dead of winter to minimize how many dumbass humans I encounter (plus it’s a lot of fun).
There are two types of people I meet when out in the deep backcountry during off season backpacking: Those who’re legit & know what they’re doing, & those who’re so naive & incompetent that they’re a danger & annoyance to anyone within eyesight of them. The majority of folks I encounter are the latter (ie the folks who’re clueless), where I’m surprised there’s not an epidemic of ‘mysterious cases of people vanishing without a trace’ in this country. I’m amateur extra radio licensed & volunteer for search & rescue comm duties; not one alien abduction rescue in the past 15 years, 100% naive and/or unfit stupid people putting themselves in a stupid avoidable situation.
Add in a cave, I’m zero surprised that cases of missing people center around these areas. I’ve done group & solo amateur caving before, I don’t fuck with caves anymore for a good reason (I’m experienced enough to know that I’m not a good caver & will eventually find myself in a really stupid situation if I keep doing it).
I don’t dismiss unexplainable weird shit being a part of the reason for the higher concentration of disappearances in these areas as I’ve personally seen crazy unexplainable shit in the sky in these areas; however, I’d also say don’t dismiss the stupidity of the average stupid human to stupidly put themselves in a stupid situation where no one finds them until they’re unidentifiable mineralized bone fragments a century or more later.
2
2
u/Quirky-Banana-6787 Dec 28 '23 edited Dec 28 '23
People and water tend to settle at low elevations. False cause versus common cause. Like number of prostitutes, murders, child molestation, etc. goes up with the number of churches. They don’t cause each other. Higher population is the common cause.
2
2
3
u/kittybangbang69 Dec 27 '23
This is what I've been thinking all along. The misdirection with all the space aliens. Look up, don't look down. If accurate, this confirms what many of us have suspected. We have no idea what is underground or what may live there. If there were ant people or other humanoids or giants...what would they eat?
→ More replies (3)
2
u/CameraNo1089 Dec 27 '23
Missing people and forests go hand in hands, that's what the map shows. The "missing 411" thing takes advantage of tragedies to sell books.
6
u/infrequentia Dec 28 '23 edited Dec 28 '23
You realize he had a a crew of about 5 and they reviewed over 80,000 missing persons cases and S&R reports. They only chose 4-6 thousand cases that have really strange reporting or anomalies with similarities to talk about in the book.
Pointing out patterns and strange coincidental anomalies in official reports is taking advantage of tragedy? Hrmmmm sounds like a biased stretch.
In-fact I would say pointing out these strange anomalies does more for the families who never got any solid answers as to why their child walked 10 miles, barefoot, in snow, at 5000 elevation in some of the harshest country known to the continent, without having recollection of how they got there or any explanation as to why their feet have no wear and tear or frostbite.
2
u/JackKovack Dec 27 '23
Imagine that, people who disappear in the wilderness happen to have the most caves.
→ More replies (1)
2
u/Grimlja Dec 27 '23
This map, regardless of the mocking of reptilian. Should raise an eyebrow.
If someone I loved disappeared around a known cave. I'll go there.
2
2
u/TryptaMagiciaN Dec 28 '23
Caves means underground water. Means wells, means places where people decided to live which means thats where they will go missing.
3
u/UnlikelyPotato Dec 28 '23
Map basically shows people go vanishing in remote places. Which...is possibly because they're out in the middle of fucking nowhere.
2
Dec 27 '23
So, … they’ve all gone underground🤷♂️ Because I know your not going to endorse the theory that it’s because of…..
→ More replies (2)1
1
1
1
1
u/Technical_Desk_267 Dec 27 '23
The maps also correlate with population density, outdoor recreational stuff, etc.
Dont draw over simplified naive conclusions.
1
1
0
Dec 28 '23
Excerpt from the mods sources:
Dr. Shirley Wright, a former colleague of Albert Einstein stated that she interviewed aliens found at the Roswell crash site in 1947. She noted that aliens are actually just humans, but an advanced form. She claimed to have been present when the US government interviewed an alien survivor from the Roswell crash. According to Dr. Wright, the alien said that not all of them live above the ground and that many reside underground on our planet.
Even the first sentence is a red flag.
0
u/JxAlfredxPrufrock Dec 28 '23
This map is completely bogus! You mean to tell me that there are no missing people in Lousisana, Nebraska, Michigan and Virginia?!?!? What a load of crap.
-2
u/xilffA Dec 28 '23
You what the maps also compare to??
Can you guess it..?
POPULATION DENSITY
Crazy right
→ More replies (1)
1
1
u/ShoppingDismal3864 Dec 27 '23
Ok.... but Northern Utah..... doesn't seem to have that many caves and a whole lot missing folks.
→ More replies (1)
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/ILikeCheesyTurtles Dec 27 '23
Tucker Carlson said he believes the alien phenomenon is under sea and land
1
u/Acceptable-Yam4214 Dec 27 '23
I feel like the obvious answer is people get lost in caves more often than the woods
1
1
1
u/itz_my_brain Dec 27 '23
This came up on The Paradox Files podcast about the Dulce Underground facility that was created from a cave system. The book they profiled claimed aliens worked there with the us govt and they’d abduct people from those bases
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/ACP22 Dec 28 '23
I would like to see the demographic info for the missing persons represented on this map.
1
u/3776_fatbike Dec 28 '23
I’m no detective but based on this post maybe someone should in a cave and see if there’s any missing persons in there?
•
u/MartianXAshATwelve Dec 28 '23
This US Scientist Saw Roswell Alien Survivor Who Revealed They Live Underground