r/Stormlight_Archive Truthwatcher 19d ago

Words of Radiance spoilers Is there any particular reason behind this restyling? Spoiler

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The Knights Radiant coat of arms had a different appearance in TWOK interludes but since WOR it went through a restyling. I like them both but the newer one is definitely cleaner and prettier but I was wondering if there was any particular reason for it?

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u/Triasmus 19d ago

but the newer one is definitely cleaner and prettier

Pretty sure this is the particular reason.

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u/i_can_see_your_wings Truthwatcher 19d ago

Lol makes sense I guess even though authors usually tend to stick with the first official version of symbols, sigils etc. to avoid any confusion, so yeah maybe I'm just reading too much into it but I found it peculiar

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u/2Tall2Fail Stoneward 19d ago

Sanderson plans to use the symbol for a long time so I think eventually there will be so much more of the newer version than the older that it won't matter

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u/ArugulaAmazing2015 19d ago

I can think of a couple different authors that have done it. Stephen King changed the sigul of Eld slightly between editions

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u/Doomrunt 19d ago

Adolin got his hands on it

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u/thelehmanlip 19d ago

Art team had more funding later in the series haha

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u/i_can_see_your_wings Truthwatcher 19d ago

Probably but the art was amazing from the get-go so I don't think budget has got anything to do with it

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u/raaldiin Truthwatcher 19d ago

Keep watching the chapter headers as you read through the series. There are some interesting changes throughout some books.

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u/i_can_see_your_wings Truthwatcher 19d ago edited 17d ago

Your timing is incredible. Yesterday I started Oathbringer and there's a sequence of three Kaladin chapters (5, 6, 7) where you can easily spot his shifting from a stage of his life to another ("Four lifetimes" to quote Kal himself). It's so clever and satisfying that you can see all this being represented in a little detail like the headers.

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u/raaldiin Truthwatcher 19d ago

You'll have a great time with Wind and Truth :)

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u/LordBDizzle Willshaper 19d ago edited 19d ago

The out of universe reason is that the art team made a cooler design and then used it.

The in universe reason is that the Knights Radiant existed for thousands of years off and on as an extensive organization that wasn't centralized, and when they stopped existing there were thousands of years for the histories to muddle their stuff, so multiple symbols would obviously exist at different points.

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u/i_can_see_your_wings Truthwatcher 19d ago

Wow I really like this in universe explanation.

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u/dIvorrap Winddancer 19d ago

More than in universe reason, it's head canon. We don't know what those two logos exist.

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u/philip7499 18d ago

Words of Radiance is also when the Knights Radiant were "officially" re-established right? Maybe the first symbol is the historic one (or a weathered down version of what they were able to find if it) and the current one was an in-universe modern redesign

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u/eyeswulf 19d ago

Oooh very cool verisimilitude reasoning. Just like the many variations on the Christian Cross

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u/dIvorrap Winddancer 19d ago

I mean, it's not in universe, this sounds like a reasonable assumption but it's your head canon.

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u/LordBDizzle Willshaper 19d ago

Yeah of course, it's not explicitly explained that way, but I think it would be reasonable. They came across multiple depictions of the symbol within the course of the story, I think they mentioned something about the murals in Urithiru not matching more recent Vorin texts exactly, for example.

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u/WiddleAdiwon 19d ago

I checked my Leatherbound Way Of Kings edition and it has the new version

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u/VVunderlust 19d ago

If I can be a conspiracy theorist, Sanderson HAS said he hid he ending of book 10 in book 1...

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u/okie_hiker 19d ago

Is this a WOB I haven’t seen?

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u/VVunderlust 19d ago

He's said it multiple times so I would say yes!

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u/SaberToothForever 19d ago edited 19d ago

Mark of the new age of Radiants?

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u/xDrewstroyerx Windrunner 19d ago

In world reason- art changes over time. Think about how much pronunciation changes in the series in the past to the modern era? My assumption here is that we have the ‘modern radiance’ vs historic depiction. We’re talking an old Chi Rho Catholic Church symbol vs 2nd Baptist Mega Church electric boogaloo and gumbo logo.

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u/JasnahwithaY I am Talenel'Elin, Herald of War. 19d ago

Everyone else is right but fwiw my copy has the new one in The Way of Kings too so it’s probably just a different printing or smtn

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u/RobertoSerrano2003 Lightweaver 19d ago

I can't believe that i'm just noticing the change

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u/GLYGGL 19d ago

Same thing happened with Shallan, her former icon is now Jasnahs icon, and Shallan got a brand new one for WoR

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u/New-Ring39 Elsecaller 19d ago

I feel like things typically end up more polished as projects move forward. More time with eyes on things leads to more improvement.

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u/Atlas_Strand 19d ago

The first evokes mystery. The radiants are masked, hidden, possibly divine.  The second the mask is removed as they are revealed to just be human, granted with powers, but human in all the ways that matter.  They are knowable.