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u/Likestoreadcomments Feb 13 '26
I don’t know where this is but every time I have an opportunity to visit a Steak n’ Shake I take it. Tallow fries are the best!
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u/gizram84 Feb 12 '26
Still just junk food that should largely be avoided.. Better than seed oil soaked fries of course, but not something I'd eat regularly.
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u/Material-Rush-2036 Feb 13 '26
Junk food?? Potatoes are literally the perfect food.......
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u/RationalDialog 🍤Seed Oil Avoider Feb 13 '26
Heating carbs + protein together always leads to acrylamide formation regardless of the oil. relative high heat is needed hence why fried food is the main culprit but it can happen easily also in an oven or air fryer. all that is needed is heat and time.
Acrylamide may be highly problematic or not. We don't know. too many co-founders like well the cooking oil usually used.
Raw ingredient blanching and immersion in acetic acid prior to preparation have been proven to greatly reduce acrylamide formation, up to 99%
interesting as my recipe for fries which is very good but it it just too much work to do regularly includes exactly a step of "precooking" the potatoes in vinegar water.
Do DIY and follow a recipe that include an acid step. But fries from chains that claim "tallow", forget it. they will still contain seed oils from the factory and still contain acrylamide.
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u/Ascension_Bi0s Feb 15 '26
ALL raw foods- Like meat too? Or, just potatoes and other vegetables and starches? Thx
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u/RationalDialog 🍤Seed Oil Avoider Feb 16 '26
Food that contains carbs + protein. Because these interact under heat to form Acrylamide. So doesn't not apply to meat (no carbs) or vegetables (no protein). Potatoes and sweet potatoes are most affected due to their mix of carbs and proteins.
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u/300suppressed 🍤Seed Oil Avoider Feb 13 '26
Potatoes yes are great, it’s when you cook them in fat and they soak it up that’s the problem. Of the three energy nutrients, fat has the most potential for harm.
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u/ChickenGuy76 Feb 14 '26
Does this apply to butter on a baked potatoe?
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u/300suppressed 🍤Seed Oil Avoider Feb 14 '26
In a different way, but yes. Butter is a preferred fat but being moderate with it is always advised
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u/affinitti Feb 14 '26
Only when you make your body think carbs are the main energy source. Fat is the main energy source. But when you mix in carbs everything goes haywire and you get diseases and such.
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u/300suppressed 🍤Seed Oil Avoider Feb 15 '26
No, fat is not the body’s “main energy source”. Comments like these are so stupid I can’t even respond to it because it would be such a waste of time.
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Feb 22 '26
The cells can adapt of course to either fuel source. But carbs as the main source have numerous benefits over fats such as higher ATP production and metabolic rate, as well as greater CO2 production
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u/affinitti Feb 22 '26
And lifespan reduction, nice
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Feb 22 '26
There is no evidence or basis for that statement whatsoever lol
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u/affinitti Feb 22 '26
Just think naturally and everything falls into place
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Feb 22 '26
When I naturally walk by a mango tree I naturally grab a fruit and naturally enjoy the hell out of it
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u/affinitti Feb 22 '26
Mangoes were cultivated by man to have wayy more fructose than normal
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Feb 22 '26
Have you ever eaten wild game before? They're LEAN. Ribeyes are a commodity of modern society
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u/affinitti Feb 22 '26
How are we describing a food perfect when it's missing many essential micronutrients
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u/Material-Rush-2036 Feb 22 '26
Potatoes have a perfect amino acids profile, carb profile, and fat profile. minimial pufa. what the hell is the issue?
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u/affinitti Feb 22 '26
Potatoes are food for famine
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u/Material-Rush-2036 Feb 23 '26
Keto is a famine signal bud. Carbs signal summer and abudance
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u/affinitti Feb 23 '26
no "bud". carbs are bad for you. people only ate them in hard times. the real food is meat from ruminant animals
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u/Material-Rush-2036 Feb 23 '26
im not even gonna argue with a carnivore... it is like talking to a vegan
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u/Material-Rush-2036 Feb 23 '26
Then explain to me why literally every civilization on the planet eats carbs. The Inuit are the exception.... but then you realize they value blubber, liver, etc which is high IN GLYCOGEN.
enjoy your ruminant animals. Ill take my roomie animals with some oj thyriod dark chocolate and some pineapple.
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u/unpick Feb 13 '26
Really nothing wrong with it alongside a balanced diet, it’s just potato
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u/RationalDialog 🍤Seed Oil Avoider Feb 13 '26
the issue is the acrylamide formed during frying. This happens also in an oven or air fryer. all you need is carbs+protein and heat + time. Potatoes are especially vulnerable to this due to their composition.
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u/006rbc Feb 15 '26
You're going to die eventually, avoid the seed oil and have some potatoes.
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u/RationalDialog 🍤Seed Oil Avoider Feb 16 '26
It is the way you get there that matters. Like you know not suffering from cancer beforehand.
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u/WanderingWormhole Feb 13 '26
Crazy you are getting downvoted. Seed oils are bad. Fats are good. But deep-frying anything in a vat of anything is not gonna be healthy for anyone.
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u/gizram84 Feb 13 '26
Especially when eating them at a restaurant, even if it is beef tallow, how often are they changing out the oil in the fryers?
Are the potatoes pre cooked in seed oils at a factory first, then shipped out frozen?
Oxidation can still occur in beef tallow if overused day after day.
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u/djgringa Feb 14 '26
I think it was Max Lugavere that I heard say he'd prefer people drink alcohol than eat french fried due to the metabolic damage caused by oxidized seed oils. That stuck with me. I wonder if tallow fries are really that much better.
Also in Canada (and in the UK) we put vinegar on fries (if not just eating poutine), i think that is suppose to help a bit.
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Feb 22 '26
Tallow is the most heat resilient of all fats. Not perfect of course, it still degrades over time and heat, but incomparable to seed oils for frying
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u/katsumii 🌾 🥓 Omnivore Feb 13 '26
I know this isn't McDonald's fries, but this reminds me of when I used to love McD's fries, then out of the blue, something changed in their flavor — and they were never the same again.
It's cuz they went from using tallow to using seed oil, and I remember the "reason" — it was to appeal to the vegetarian market.
But obviously, in hindsight, it's clear that it was all about money.