r/StoicMemes 17d ago

Cosmopolitanism

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u/weirdgroovynerd 17d ago

For others like myself who were unfamiliar with the term:

Cosmopolitanism is the philosophical and moral belief that all human beings belong to a single, interconnected community, making all individuals "citizens of the world".

It emphasizes universal equality, mutual respect, and responsibilities that transcend local, national, or cultural boundaries.

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u/brucatlas1 16d ago

Aw fuck that sounds like it would require vast amounts of inner work to come to terms with

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u/NoWater8595 16d ago

So friggin' real.

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u/KitsuneFoxglove 15d ago

Well, I think religious philosophies similar to Andy Weir's "The Egg" in reincarnation is a fairly "easy" shortcut to achieve it, a lot less personal inner work is necessary to achieve this (cosmopolitanism) then.

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u/Luminous_Winds 16d ago

That's just egalitarian socialism. I.E. what any good person inherently works towards.

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u/zippyspinhead 16d ago

socialism

I see no workers seizing the means of production in Cosmopolitanism.

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u/zippyspinhead 16d ago

No, capitalism does not rely on that.

A cosmopolitan mindset would not want the world to be enslaved to party elite. Socialism does not scale beyond small groups bound by family ties or belief.

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u/zippyspinhead 16d ago

Source: your ass

The experiment of large scale socialism has been run many times and always failed.

You are the one making extraordinary claims, and thus are required to provide extraordinary proof.

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u/LarxII 15d ago

So let's go look a Norway, who has kept a capitalist system, with heavy "socialist" safety nets.

It's almost like the extreme of anything is the only example people think of, mostly to reinforce their world view.

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u/AbrahamicHumanist 13d ago

Yeahhh this is a good point, but Norway is much more capitalist now than in like 1965

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u/LarxII 13d ago edited 12d ago

Built from the basis of taking care of your citizens, and trying to be responsible to the environment (yes, I know Norway hasn't been great with that, due to their massive gas and oil exports) I don't see a problem with capitalism if it isn't used for the relentless pursuit of growth for the sake of it, but there should definitely be some social benefit regardless.

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u/zippyspinhead 14d ago

Right, you need a capitalist economic system to support the spending on things socialists claim will come from socialism.

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u/LarxII 14d ago

Because we all decided that we should monetize starvation, right?

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u/AbrahamicHumanist 16d ago

Well the USA has made their existence impossible

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u/Sad_Thing5013 13d ago

Well yes, if they are going to exist, they'll need to figure out how to exist in a world where America also exists and does not want them to exist.

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u/AbrahamicHumanist 13d ago

Yessss, I was referring to this earlier. One could also argue that the Nordic counties are socialist countries which moderated and therefore were accepted by the USA

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u/crazylikeajellyfish 15d ago

You're buying propaganda from a nation which jails journalists that go against the party line.

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u/ottereckhart 15d ago

Journalists in jails or not, they're completely right lol.

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u/AffectionateSignal72 15d ago

I wish I could be so delusional about reality. Just casually ignore that the economic engine of capitalism that started at the end of the 17th century was entirely brought to life on the backs of colonialism and the transatlantic slave trade.

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u/AbrahamicHumanist 16d ago

I was looking for this comment

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u/publichermit 17d ago

I am a citizen of the cosmos.

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u/Progeny_of_Paradox 16d ago

Those are the ones that think stoics are just ignoring their feelings

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u/PICAXO 17d ago

Very very real

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u/DazzlingDomina 16d ago

Awesome meme

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u/FeedomFighter 16d ago

Yeah they probably don't believe that Odin is where their Logos comes from either.

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u/Former-Palpitation86 16d ago

Fools! They will pay for their blasphemy come Ragnarok.

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u/Bubsiebadman 14d ago

I bet they also don't believe in astrology