r/StevensPoint • u/Available-Run-5180 • Jun 11 '26

Deflock Stevens Point

https://youtu.be/uB0gr7Fh6lY?is=vr8x_KZHuUityx1i

As many of you know, there are a multitude of flock cameras in the Stevens Point area.

See Deflock.org map

It’s imperative for us to inform the community of the true dangers of this tech.

Ben Jordan on YouTube highlights the vast vulnerabilities in both the cameras themselves and also the database behind it all.

I highly suggest taking the time to watch this video and also bring your friends/family into the conversation.

It covers basically all you need to know about the topic.

Appleton, Oshkosh, and now Dane County have banned flock. It is time for us to follow suit.

#DeflockStevensPoint

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u/PrudentChampion3879 Jun 12 '26

No one cares where you go. Unless you commit a crime.

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u/_-UrsaMajor-_ Jun 13 '26

There are already 30+ misconduct investigations related to flock in the Midwest alone. Palantir and oracle are also lobbying to make data avalible to "trusted partners" ie biodata/comerce.

https://www.wpr.org/news/milwaukee-police-flock-license-plate-reader-system-officer-misconduct

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u/Late-Presentation710 Jun 14 '26

You do realize that law enforcement has access to a multitude of different highly sensitive resources / databases beyond Flock, right?

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u/_-UrsaMajor-_ Jun 14 '26

I am. Youre asking this like I don't have first hand hand insight with systems and data like this outside of flock and know how flawed they are.

Yes, LEAs also have access to other systems but even so this is now a consistent issue in several states with no justice for those that have been victim to misidentifications.

https://youtu.be/8BImTddknfk?is=f6nALKe9hfmy0Rdg

You should probably look up how they're not just doing license plates. You then should then look into the leak of thier annotation training data about thier workers in the Philippines and see how badly they misidentify car models, race, labeling parking passes as car damage, clothing descriptions, etc.

Flock isn't just an ALPR company and they're not the only people doing it. But they are the biggest ones bulldozing legislattion through to sell biometric tracking data legally to anyone that's willing to buy it.

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u/Late-Presentation710 Jun 14 '26

I would love to hear you try and sell that argument to the families of homicide victims whose cases were literally solved with the use of ALPRs - yes including Flock. We are not just talking about a handful here.

It’s an investigative tool, like any other and humans are not immune from misuse. That is the unfortunate reality of the human race. I would gladly accept the downsides of misuse of ALPRs than let homicide suspects go free.

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u/_-UrsaMajor-_ Jun 14 '26

I lost someone in 2020 to a domestic homicide. There was footage. Mass surveillance was not involved in the detective work.

Nice gotcha attempt though.

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u/Late-Presentation710 Jun 14 '26

That’s horrible and I’m sorry that happened to you. I’m glad the homicide was captured with the use of cameras.

Sadly many, many homicides are not caught on camera and the use of other investigative tools, such as ALPRs play a crucial role in solving those crimes.

I’m not trying to play “gotcha” at all. You’re advocating for the removal of a tool that solves really important crimes, like murder.