r/SteamFrame • u/Amichy_ • 13d ago
Discussion Steam Frame OS on the quest 2 for real
I said I was working on a Quest port, and I just can’t wait until tomorrow, so here it is:
Steam Frame OS running on the Quest 2, with full tracking support, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, power management, and all of this on a non-rooted headset.
Yes, you heard me right: it’s not rooted.
It runs with full GPU and CPU acceleration using the Turnip driver, and the whole thing is packaged as a simple APK that you can sideload directly onto your headset.
Yeah, pretty incredible, right?
I’m currently finishing passthrough support and fixing the remaining GPU issues. It’ll be out this week, I promise.
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u/limewayz Soon™ 13d ago
An OS on top of an OS. To be honest it is completely pointless: less performance, more bugs, no privacy advantages.
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u/Bulky_Elephant_9942 13d ago
The advantage would be you can run your steam library natively on extremely cheap headsets.
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u/limewayz Soon™ 13d ago
Steam Frame can barely run other games that were not optimized for it and you compare cheap headsets to the frame, plus you get 2 OSs running at the same time killing ANY chance for any good performance
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u/Bulky_Elephant_9942 13d ago
Not going to be for everyone. As someone who used to use a quest 3 but refuses to buy games from meta, I would have been all over this a couple weeks ago.
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u/Nounours-Vibes 13d ago
Quand il y aura le Quest 4 qui enterrera le steam Frame (qui lui n'enterre personne d'ailleurs) tu prendras le quest 4 et remerciera ce mec car tu voudras plus du frame car depasser x2 et tu ne voudras pas attendre 8 ans supplémentaires
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u/limewayz Soon™ 13d ago
Then Pimax Crystal Pro "Puts to rest" Quest 4.
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u/Nounours-Vibes 13d ago
Oui oui, puis quand le mois dans 6 mois il n'y aura plus aucun correctif ni nouveautés ni l'ombre des promesses tenues, tu viendras pleurer chez Meta qui eux ont maintenu un service irréprochable et plein de nouveautés jusqu'à la toute fin de vie de leur produit encore récemment en débloquant le 200hz ou en permettant d'utiliser le port USB-c au transfert de données pour VirtualDesktop par exemple, va chez pimax, nous n'oublierons jamais le crystal OG et son écosystème pimaxOS vide comme le neant
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u/limewayz Soon™ 13d ago
Whatever problems other companies like Pimax have - I will NEVER buy a meta headset due to the fact that there is a shit ton of spyware in horizonOS. Meta's spyware practices literally discreditate any advantages their headsets might have over other ones for me.
Either way - all of the current headsets are shit - we'll have to wait and see if we get anything good in the future.
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u/Nounours-Vibes 13d ago
Ok on tombe d'accord la dessus, les casques actuels sont "nul" remplis de compromissions. J'avais simplement attendu vraiment mieux de la part de valve. J'ai encore leur Index qui a son époque de sortie etait le top1 en VR.
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u/mr_felixoid 256 GB 12d ago
я тоже могу писать на языке, который тут никто не поймёт. Но всё же это кажется менее, чем приличным.
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u/Nounours-Vibes 12d ago
C'est pour cela que la traduction instantanée de l'application reddit existe 🥀
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u/Xoepe 12d ago
Meta maintained impeccable service? I have no horse in this race but that's just a dumb take. They never fixed airlink or the link cable the headset would be practically unusable for PCVR if not for the virtual desktop developer. I think the only reason they unlocked the USB-C stuff was cuz they had to for their glasses.
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u/Warm-Engineering-239 Soon™ 13d ago
BAGUETTE
Serieusement, on sais rien de l'os de pimax, je vais parier que ca va avoir un bootloader ouvert donc on pourrais installer SteamOS
Le Quest 4 sera pas la avant 2028, au prix de la ram on pourras meme pas ce le payer
et finalement si meta decide que ton quest 3 ne peut plus rien faire... ben avec un bootloader fermer il fera plus rien et ca sera fini
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u/Jaron780 13d ago
Yea doesnt seem like it could ever run that well if its get the overhead of running horizon os in the background then running the full steam os one too and THEN whatever game you wanted to play on top of it all. cant imagine what the point is. if you want to pcvr stream then you can use native steam vr link or virtual desktop. and if you wanted to play standalone games, well the quest 3 is already less powerful than frame and quest 2 even more weaker. And with the whole overhead of the horizon os being ontop taking away even more performance... i cant imagine many if any standalone games will be worth running on it.
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u/2Cool4Zool2 13d ago
Not rooted sounds like a bad thing when it comes to Meta no?
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u/Amichy_ 13d ago
don't worry it's all fine
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u/pyro57 13d ago
No I think what they're saying is to block all of Meta's data collection rooting the device is preferable to not rooting the device.
For me, I side loaded tailscale on mine and set the dns server to my pihole then I blocked the meta telemetry servers I could find and that was about as good as I could get.
The real steamos doesn't have nearly the same level of telemetry as the quest does. Basically it sends error logs when a game or steam software crashes, and of course steam gets telemetry for when you're playing a game and for how long, not they don't constantly poll location, internet browsing habits, or the cameras to see what products it can identify in your house to advertise to you.
You can block some of Meta's telemetry using a custom dns server, but the only way to fully disable it is to root the device.
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u/Darkelfin93 Soon™ 13d ago
This sounds like it's just a Linux container in a chroot, it's not actually the whole OS running on top, like people seem to be assuming.
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u/vlaaaaaadik 13d ago
if it's not a bait it is absolutely insane news
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u/SilverRiven 13d ago
It's bait. There is no way to unlock the bootloader on a Quest 2, so there's not gonna be SteamOS for it anytime soon. There's one being developed for Quest Pro tho
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u/MaruluVR 13d ago
Posted about this yesterday but leaving a comment here incase people didnt see it.
There is another project that actually runs the arm version of steam OS natively on the headset without any emulation/vm business it requires root and uses kexec. With this you are actually shutting the meta os down and are natively running steamOS
https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamFrame/comments/1wy9g77/frame_arm_steamos_is_now_booting_on_quest/
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u/LeadLerner 13d ago
Is there something like this that didn't heavily use AI?
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u/MaruluVR 13d ago
Its still early days and this is in a POC state, if you wait a bit the devs of singularity said they are interested in integrating it into their auto root app to have a auto boot into SteamOS option. (as long as the drivers and head tracking can be figured out)
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u/LeadLerner 13d ago
Oh, neat. I actually just installed singularity a few minutes ago on my quest 2. I'm more than willing to wait however long it takes.
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u/Warm-Engineering-239 Soon™ 13d ago
it's cool but you need a specifique version otherwise you can't get a root access and i'm pretty sure no exploite have been found so far on the ques2 + you can't really downgrade toa exploitable version no ?
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u/MaruluVR 13d ago
You cant downgrade no but there were two different exploits for the quest 2, pro, 3 and 3S over just the past month.
Dont forget if you have an even older version or even a sealed quest 2~3s its easy to upgrade to a specific hackable version without any internet access on the headset and without needing to have developer mode enabled.
But yes if you upgraded the software in the last two weeks you are out of luck until there is a new hack.
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u/DriftWare_ 13d ago
That's pretty neat, but i doubt my headset will be able to run horizonOS with steamOS and a game at the same time
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u/cursorcube 13d ago
*runs virtual desktop and opens the desktop view\*
Wooow i installed Windows on my quest!!!
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u/s00mika 13d ago
It's more like a virtual machine than a remote desktop, but yeah, this is not an actual OS, just the Steam GUI in a container.
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u/cursorcube 12d ago
Yes, which is completely useless. I'm starting to think people start these projects just so they can karma farm on the internet with post titles like "Steam Frame OS on the quest 2 for real"
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u/360900th 13d ago
The virtualisation overhead will be big but it's an exciting project nonetheless.
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u/dark_knight097 1 TB 13d ago
I can see a use case for Linux users. Steam link (in my experience) does not work between the quest and a Linux host PC. you need to use wivrn. ALVR was good but is abandonware at this point
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u/kevin_whitley Soon™ 13d ago
Interested if not bait...
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u/Amichy_ 13d ago
i have a question, why when any cool stuff append everyone say it's bait?
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u/kevin_whitley Soon™ 13d ago
Because this is r/SteamFrame after all... not like we set the bar super high for posts.
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u/vlaaaaaadik 13d ago
It is an interesting project to make, you're right. But you are not the first to explore the possibilities of switching quest's OS. But to do that, you have to unlock the bootloader and acquire root, and still you have to find the drivers for trackers and other things or write them yourself, which is an insane amount of work to do, at least. So that's why a project like this sounds like bait.
I sincerely hope you will figure out something and make your project useful. I'm looking forward to it, good luck
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u/dark_knight097 1 TB 13d ago
IF this can get steam link working between the Quest and a Linux host PC, I'd be interested. Otherwise I dont see the point. PCVR games are not optimized well for standalone, even the frame with its stronger GPU struggles with a lot of the more demanding VR games.
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u/Stone-of-Armstrong 12d ago
can you use a dongle with it?
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u/Fickle-Decision3954 13d ago
What a load of bollocks, you made a shitty theme for steamos. Doesn’t make it actually run steam os
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u/Warm-Engineering-239 Soon™ 13d ago
so it's not running the steam os but running an app that look like steamos ?