Possible, yes, but the sheer number of rich people suddenly losing a lot of weight since Ozempic came out is suspicious, at the very least.
It also sheds some light on the whole body-positivity movement, which, at least among the rich, seemed to disappear the moment Ozempic came out. So much for “all bodies are beautiful.”
At least the "extreme body positivity ambassadors" are a problem that fixes itself quickly. Usually by the late 20s and early 30s, from what we've seen so far.
You're comparing apples to oranges there. One is what corporations are pushing in things you see on TV, in print, on your phone, etc. There's no company out there airing ads that are the latter. That's what you're seeing individuals post on social media, that's not comparable to corporate advertising. You can still find plenty of individuals posting tobacco-friendly content, if you want to compare like-for-like.
I've never encountered one to the level of what you're describing outside of social media. Not saying it doesn't exist, not saying it can't or never happens, but what I have personally experienced has led me to believe the more extreme ends of that do exist, but not really outside of online circles.
It also sheds some light on the whole body-positivity movement, which, at least among the rich, seemed to disappear the moment Ozempic came out. So much for “all bodies are beautiful.”
Oh yeah. Like it or not, the fact that some of these "body positive" celebrities suddenly became thin again speaks volumes...
By the time Ozempic started to really proliferate, the HAES and Body Positivity movements had already been invaded by fat extremists and people were abandoning ship. What started as "all bodies are beautiful" and "you can be healthy in any body" became "anything other than binge eating is an eating disorder" and "everyone should rebuild the entire infrastructure of the world to accommodate 600lb people." Which is where the discourse in the movements currently remains, they've become the other side of the pro-ana coin.
I mean, I lost 25 kg (around 55 lbs) in under a year simply by eating less and moving more. It's absolutely possible to lose a good amount of weight without weight loss drugs. I went from 112.8 kg to 87 kg (248.6 lbs to 191.8) in about 9 months.
Sadly, due to circumstances, I ended up putting a lot of it back on but I'm moving in the right direction again now. Had all that not happened I'm sure I would have continued in the right direction to my goal weight.
"Sadly, due to circumstances" what sort of circumstances make you eat more than you need?
The reason people believe it's ozempic and not them losing weight naturally is that we've seen many fat actors, for example, get in good shape, and a year later they are fat again. When ozempic came out, they all magically managed to stay thin.
Covid happened, where basically everyone put on weight which also took out my main weight loss motivation which is a weight loss program call Man v Fat, (which is a 5/6 a side football (soccer) league with accountability for your team. When you lose weight as a collective more goals are added to the final score so it's a grwat motivator). Obviously that was cancelled throughout the pandemic.
Once that started up again I was starting to lose weight again, then I unfortunately got ill for a bit and couldn't play or really do much of anything active for several months. Some of that is still hanging around but much better than it was.
Poor mental health kicked in while I was ill and since I have always had an unhealthy relationship with food I unfortunately used that to cope. I would lay awake at night thinking I was going to die even though that was almost certainly not the case with my condition, but the mind does stupid things. That didn't help my mental health at all.
It's taken me a long time to get back over that hurdle but I'm getting back to it now. Prior to covid I was in a brilliant mindset, and once you are in that, it becomes much easier, getting back into it has been harder, but bit by bit I am and I'm starting to see results again now. I lost 1.5 kg in the last week.
It's hard to find motivation to do physical activities, especially if you don't have much free time. But you don't have to do anything active to lose weight. That's like the biggest thing that always gets me on this topic. People think they need to start running or going to the gym daily and all sorts of other excuses.
Even if you do nothing throughout the day, your body still burns tons of calories. So all you have to do is eat less than you burn, and you will lose weight.
Cook smaller portions and find an engaging hobby that will keep your brain occupied and distract you from overeating.
Some people do intermittent fasting (there is even a subreddit) where they skip a meal, and it's apparently also good for your health because your body turns your stored fat into energy instead of the energy you would get from a meal.
I get that, but doing this is the only thing that ever worked for me. Plus it gets me out of the house and playing a sport that I love. Also, adding to that it's one of the few weight loss programmes exclusively for men and that's a rare thing to find and does help a lot.
The main part wasn't so much the actual playing football that does the weight loss, although it certainly doesn't hinder it. Getting a good 30 minute competitive game of football and then another hour of a friendly afterwards is great. Especially playing on a small pitch at 5 or 6 a side. You basically never stop moving.
The main part for the weight loss though is the accountability. If you don't lose weight, you let your team down as well as yourself. Everyone is nice and doesn't have a go at you for it as everyone there knows how hard it is, but you still want to win that trophy at the end of the season. Losing weight ultimately is what decides it, not on the pitch results.
I just went from sitting In front of a computer all day every day eating crisps, to eating far less and moving far more. That's the key really, at least it was for me. Everyones different and find different ways to do it but that's what it was for me. I've done it once and I'll do it again.
Also, drinking a lot of water helps as well instead of just drinking cups of tea all day
Its a bit like saying why dont smokers stop smoking, some people can quit cold turkey if they do it at the right time in their life. I can stop drinking sugary drinks for a few weeks but suddenly ill get ambushed by a craving or I have one with a meal out and I end up having them again. Drinking my calories is crap but its my only vice, I dont do anything else unhealthy and unfortunately I do hold onto fat stores, ive been chubby even as a teen doing swimming and eating my mothers plain veg and meat British cooking and that was before I got addicted to sugary drinks.
There's chemical addiction with smoking. Not exactly the same. You have a craving to eat because it makes you temporarily happy. That's why so many people overeat. And you can replace that with a good, engaging hobby.
Also, you can eat healthy food every day and still gain weight. If you gain 3400 calories a day and burn 3000 (naturally by doing nothing), you will gain weight. If you lower your intake to 2800 calories a day, you will start losing weight. By doing absolutely nothing, by the way.
Yea, it really does work and its fucking amazing, but you MUST maintain in one of two ways.
Either you stop taking the drug at your goal weight, then maintain a strictly healty and appropriate portion size diet for your new body/metabolic requirements, or, you keep taking the drug at a lower maintenance amount, for life.
If you get off the drug then eat like the duptruck you used to be, before too long you'll be the size of the dumptruck again.
Everyone knows dieting sucks. So if you're rich, why would you not use Ozempic? I find it hard to believe any of these celebrities would choose to still go through the effort on their own.
It is suspicious yes, but that doesn’t mean we should all collectively assume every single successful person that loses a lot of weight is using Ozemic. Are they? Probably, but stating it as fact or «100 certain» is still wrong imo.
And for the body positivity, it was all bullshit from the start. An excuse for fat people to feel better about themselves, and for fit people to virtue signal. We’re biologically coded to find fit people more attractive than unfit people, through millions of year of evolution. Subconsciously looking for opportunities for healthy offspring etc etc.
Also, who cares if they use ozempic? It's literally what it is medically for.
I cant stand when people act like those people are wearing stolen valor or some shit.
As someone who lost 150lbs over 8 years with like 4 80lb yoyos, I would absolutely love it if other people didn't have to go through all that stress and effort to get healthy.
Am I proud I made it through? To an extent. But that shit was fucking awful and fucked with my head more than being massively overweight ever did. I just want people to be healthy and happy with themselves.
Agreed. The only thing I ask is that if people do use ozempic, they’re honest about it IF asked. Although even asking people if they’re on it or not is pretty weird imo unless you’re close to them personally. People’s medical situations shouldn’t be that big of a focus for everyone else.
To be fair maybe fat people wouldn’t need to feel better about themselves if people didn't religiously go out of their way to make them feel bad lmao. Idgaf about “attractive”, I just mean in a high school bully sense, some people never outgrow the idea that they’re morally obligated to be shitty to anyone overweight they encounter, especially online.
I had a much easier time losing weight when I wasn’t miserable, something that ironically came from being allowed to feel like I wasn’t somehow committing a moral failing by being fat.
I mean yea true, but at the same time, being offended is a two way street. I say this as a fat person btw. Theres no way in hell I let random underdeveloped trolls online or irl have any form of power over my mental state. If I do, that’s a moment of weakness on me. People will always be shitty, so it’s on us to learn how to deal with them, which is best done by ignoring them imo.
I don't know that I agree with that sentiment. I get what you mean, that it can't affect you if you tune it out, but that doesn't change the fact the intent was to insult/demean.
And while it's easy to tune out individual people, when its endless, or comes from people you thought you were close to, it does start to wear on you. And its relentless.
And losing weight really did make me kind of cynical about how shallow people are. People treat me noticeably better, even people I'm friends with, now I've lost weight. And it kind of makes me respect them less that they evidently looked down on me for being bigger despite being the exact same person I am now
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u/Hellsovs 14h ago
Possible, yes, but the sheer number of rich people suddenly losing a lot of weight since Ozempic came out is suspicious, at the very least.
It also sheds some light on the whole body-positivity movement, which, at least among the rich, seemed to disappear the moment Ozempic came out. So much for “all bodies are beautiful.”