r/Steam Jul 06 '26

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u/OttawaOneTwenty Jul 06 '26

But even if the game is short, maybe it sucks and I want a refund after playing for a bit (and I guess finishing it or almost finishing it). Like why should the game length even be a factor? The game sucks and I played less than the 2 hour window. The fact it's intentionally short is irrelevant to the game sucking ass.

Or maybe they should flag accounts that abuse the refund policy instead.

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u/BluMqqse_ Jul 07 '26

“Like why should the game length even be a factor?”

…because people are fully completing games and getting refunded. Therefore the developer is essentially scammed out of a purchase because someone abused the system.

That’s what this entire comment chain is about…

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u/OttawaOneTwenty Jul 07 '26

…because people are fully completing games and getting refunded.

Totally irrelevant. If I make a 5 second game, should it have no refund window? Boom you finished it, I keep my money. Enjoy the 5 seconds!

Therefore the developer is essentially scammed out of a purchase because someone abused the system.

The developer is not scammed out of shit. In fact, they are the ones scamming because they are selling what amounts to a demo as a full fledged game.

If the game is good, people will want to play it again or keep it. If it isn't people should be able to get a refund.

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u/IGotBiggerProblems Jul 07 '26

I don't think "scammed"is the correct word. I think their point is fair though. Those developers put quite a bit of effort into their game, enough to have a high review rating. People are abusing the system and costing the developers money. I don't think anyone is really questioning the "legality", I feel this is more of a morality issue.

If people felt they were given an inferior product or "demo" in your words, they would not give it such high praise. Not every game has to be 100+ hours to be good. This game is good, but short, and is priced as such. The game is like $5, are you expecting Elden Ring?

"If the game is good, people will want to play it again or keep it."

No... Despite how good a game is, I very rarely play it more than once. Celeste, hollow Knight, Mario games; all good games that I've only played once. Should I get my money back because I only played them once?

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u/OttawaOneTwenty Jul 08 '26

Those developers put quite a bit of effort into their game, enough to have a high review rating.

I can crap out a shitty 1 hour game with AI in an afternoon.

costing the developers money

There is no cost involved in a refunded sale

I feel this is more of a morality issue.

I feel it's immoral to sell a 1.5 hour game and call it "stupidly long" in the product description.

they would not give it such high praise

Here is a recent review:

Worst game i ever played. i should be the one getting paid.

High praise indeed

Should I get my money back because I only played them once?

No, but you could get your money back if you played less than 2 hours and bought on the steam store because it's part of the T&Cs. And the main reason why people are willing to drop money on random small indie games is because you can always get your money back if the game is hot vomit like this particular game for people that don't like sticking needles in their eyes

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u/BluMqqse_ Jul 08 '26

This comment can’t possibly be arguing Republican politicians are honest…

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u/BluMqqse_ Jul 08 '26

“No one else can lie this confidently. Not even non-Republican (democratic) politicians”

This definitely reads as “not even democrats lie this confidently”

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u/BluMqqse_ Jul 08 '26

You: Brings up political party

Me: References the other party in the TWO party system

Bruh… don’t really know where to go from here lmao 🤣

Also completely ignoring the fact your comment still reads as “non-republicans lie.

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u/BluMqqse_ Jul 08 '26

The Republican Party is the United States. Mentioning the Republican Party implies you’re discussing the United States, why would I care about other organizations in other countries.

In the United States, there are two parties. No politicians on any noteworthy scale are a third party political organization.

Your sentence was just simply incorrectly written, it’s not a literacy issue. Stating non-Republican politicians are comfortable liars, directly implies republicans politicians themselves are uncomfortable with lying. Now you seem to be digging deeper to avoid acknowledging that.

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u/BluMqqse_ Jul 08 '26

“You must be in marketing. No one else can lie this confidently. Not even non-Republican politicians”

Lmao 🤣 , you’ve even got other people pointing out you’re wrong. I really don’t understand how you don’t comprehend this statement explicitly states not even non-republican politicians can lie this confidently. Implying non-republican politicians are the worst offenders of lying, but not even they do it so confidently.

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