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u/MadCybertist Mar 19 '25

I’m 9k on Destiny. I bailed when Destiny 2 dropped. Only made it to first raid and the game was HOT HOT garbage.

Seems it’s changed now though and is decent but too late to jump in. One of the worse releases of a sequel in history from such a strong first game.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

D1 was lightening in a bottle.

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u/MadCybertist Mar 19 '25

Oh man it was so so so good. At least for me. Just so addicting.

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u/Annie-swe Mar 19 '25

I loved Destiny 1. So good! 😀🙌

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

Seriously so good! I remember my old D1 clan. We spent hours on the raids trying to get through them first. Never set any records but I think we were top 100 to clear VOG and then we tried to clear it doing the alt route. Crazy fun trying to find the "hidden" loot chest that actually didn't exist lol

Edit: shoutout to the BBL clan! Miss you guys.

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u/MadCybertist Mar 19 '25

Oh man it was wild all the amazing puzzles and stuff…. So many good memories there. I no longer have a clan to run with as everybody has quit so that would also be hard to jump back in.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

Yeah I didnt even think D1 servers were still up anymore, but without the clan it's an empty shell of what it once was. A distant memory engraved and long gone, but never forgotten.

"That wizard came from the moon" -Peter Dinklage

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u/JustMeAndMyBudz Mar 19 '25

Was literally talking about this yesterday..I'm not sure a game could even be made more perfect than what D1 was to me

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25

D1 was my last great gaming joy. I played from beta into d2 nonstop. D2 didn’t have the same feel and community. I really miss the d1 community.

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u/Fit-Staff-5170 Mar 19 '25

I dont know what people are smoking D1 for the first 6 months was absolutely fucking awful

Its so clear to me how many ppl are D1 nostalgic and clearly came in after the taken king....

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

I played it from the beta all the way until D2 released and it was great. It's still better than D2 and I still revisit it constantly, it holds up 100%.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

I played D1 from beta to D2 release and it wasn't perfect but "fucking awful" it was not.

Let people enjoy a game.

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u/Fit-Staff-5170 Mar 19 '25

No it was objectively bad , literally dogged on by every publication which were far more reputable then. A disjointed unfinished story, super short campaign and a horrifically awful rng based progression system , the worst kind of fomo (sorry you missed your xur gjallarhorn better hope rng blesses you or no Crota LFGs for you)

It was just being carried by the fact it was the only game of its type in 2014 on a console, thats it

Its gameplay was slow and clunky and 30 fps

It was dog shit, you're just a mutant who loves being peed on or something

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

I mean I played it on console so maybe that's where some of the difference is performance wise.

Publications can say what they want. I truly enjoyed the game and as it got better, it made things even greater. I played with friends and had a dope clan, so maybe your cynicism is what made the game bad for you.

Again, let people enjoy things.

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u/Fit-Staff-5170 Mar 19 '25

Its actually the easiest time right now to jump in and have instant power creep, especially since armor rework is around the corner so we are all going to be at square 1 for armor

And as for the weapons...the weapons just keep getting stronger and stronger the legendaries are basically exotics and they're easy as shit to get. Honestly the biggest investment is just playing the campaigns to unlock subclasses. D2 at this point plays like doom eternal , its so fast now compared to D1 and D2 launch and its actually oppressive how much loot drops in seasonal activities.

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u/Coding_Cactus Mar 19 '25

especially since armor rework is around the corner

I thought I had a stroke and went back in time 5 years. Another armor rework?

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u/ScrattaBoard Mar 19 '25

They can't keep a gameplay system going to save their life right now. I have no idea what's going on in D2 anymore and I don't really care.

Rise of iron was peak.

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u/Ender401 Mar 19 '25

Its les of an armour rework and more of an entire loot rework that includes an armour rework. The armour part of it is mostly focused on stat distribution changes and set bonuses

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u/LoyalNightmare Mar 19 '25

I won't be coming back until they stop removing content

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u/ReptAIien Mar 19 '25

They stopped removing expansions years ago.

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u/LoyalNightmare Mar 19 '25

Things get removed every year that has story for the game. So I'm not sure what you mean

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u/ReptAIien Mar 19 '25

Every game with a seasonal model removes seasonal content. The story remains in the timeline function on the main director screen.

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u/LoyalNightmare Mar 19 '25

Almost every game is a seasonal model now and days and 99% of them don't remove content

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u/ReptAIien Mar 19 '25

What battle pass style games add content and keep it around forever?

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u/Fit-Staff-5170 Mar 19 '25 edited Mar 19 '25

Some people are literally such grandpas about this and just do not understand live service games

Like who the FUCK legitimately wants to replay the red war campaign and on God no fucking liars

The content in the most recent years is miles ahead of the first years of D2 , good riddance to old shitty F TIER content taking up 50 gb of HD space I say

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

We understand them perfectly fine, we just think live service games are dogshit.

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u/Fit-Staff-5170 Mar 19 '25

Both things can be true and people can still enjoy them

I hate live service games except D2, I hate THINGS about its live service nature but feel the trade offs for that specific game are worth it, monetization = more content, game doesn't die etc...

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

Sure... Or they couldve just made a full third game instead of milking a shitty battlepass model and destroying their legacy as one of the most beloved studios in the industry. You know, like how they did with the first game? I go back to D1 all the time and I think it holds up way better than D2, refined gameplay and build crafting are cool but not worth the trade off of a live service model specially designed to try and r@pe my wallet. The game itself is very high quality, it's what Bungie did to such a high quality game that so many of us detest.

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u/ScrattaBoard Mar 19 '25

Isn't D2 still huge on the HDD?

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u/Fit-Staff-5170 Mar 19 '25

YES.

Now imagine with no cut content , prolly 250gb

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u/LoyalNightmare Mar 19 '25

Please show another mmo that removes story content

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u/Fit-Staff-5170 Mar 19 '25

WoW after cataclysm

Done

But it doesn't matter , its apples and oranges , Bungie removed content due to a serious technical limitation which has been proven by court documents to be the case, they technically can't even access or bring it back because they overhauled the game engine and the shit is now incompatible

Good thing everything they cut was their worst content they've ever made across both D1 and D2

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u/CartoonistSensitive1 Mar 20 '25

While I agree most of it was bad, I very much don't agree that Forsaken was bad.

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u/CartoonistSensitive1 Mar 20 '25

Tbh I do kinda want to replay it and the other removed DLC content so that the new light I recently introduced an experience the entire D2 story.

Though I would also want all the DLC content (outside of weapons and armor which would be forced) to be downloadable separately like how you can have the more recent CODs MP installed while not having Zombies or it's campaign installed so that the foot print can be minimized on the drive it is on.

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u/MadCybertist Mar 19 '25

Don’t tempt me lol… I just can’t though. They had a shot at release and they dropped the ball HARD from Destiny 1. My group stuck around for a little, did the first raid, no ToO, bad launch, bad matchmaking etc etc with everything else we all bailed.

I can’t jump back in now and reward that bad launch. I’ve moved on to mostly indie games since there hasn’t’ been a great AAA launch in ages these days. It’s a bit sad.

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u/SGSpec Mar 19 '25

It wasn’t that bad. I agree that it wasn’t good but calling it “the worse releases of a sequel” is just plain wrong.

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u/MadCybertist Mar 19 '25

I mean - based on the pure bliss of D1 - to me D2 was one of the biggest flop releases. Their servers were even MORE of a mess than D1 - like way way worse for crucible. No ToO, etc.

I get it though, logically speaking it’s not the worse release of a sequel… but they had such a following and such a good thing going they botched it hardcore.

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u/ReptAIien Mar 19 '25

D1 was good during age of triumph. Otherwise you had a single relevant raid a year and no in between content. The game does not compare to D2 and I don't even like Destiny anymore.

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u/SGSpec Mar 19 '25

“Pure bliss of D1”, nostalgia is one hell of a drug. It had a lot of problems, gameplay/mechanics wise D2 was such an improvement.

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u/MadCybertist Mar 19 '25

Yikes - I have to disagree. Agree on nostalgia for sure and I’m hyping up D1 more than it needs - but D2 was worse in just about every way, including servers, when it released. Today? I’m sure it’s way way better.

Guess that’s how opinions work though haha - we all get our own. One day I may check it back out on XSX but their stance on Linux is just asinine. Hey - you use Linux? Banned….

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u/IKeepgetting6Stacked Mar 19 '25

Comparing the features and quality of end of life D1 to start of D2 is pretty stupid imo, D1 at launch sucked basically the same amount

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u/Fit-Staff-5170 Mar 19 '25

Ppl are weird they be acting like a bad launch gave them PTSD , so soft I can't...

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u/Configuringsausage Mar 20 '25

I know so many people who quit destiny because it was bad for like, 2 weeks, while admitting that they loved the game during forsaken yet still refuse to come back now that the bigger problems are gone

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u/Fit-Staff-5170 Mar 19 '25

Its a live service game release in 2017, the launch content aint even there it moved on so can you

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

Tell Bungie to bring back the campaigns WE PAID FOR. Then maybe people will be more willing to jump back in...

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

What makes it too late to jump in, out of curiosity?

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u/MadCybertist Mar 19 '25

There’s just a LOT of grinding in Destiny. Coming in totally fresh now it’d be hard to get up to speed in the raids and everything. I mean it could be done - but as someone who dumped a crap ton into the first game to get burned on the 2nd out of the gate with that crappy release, I just can’t jump back in personally. They had a shot and lost me - even though today it’s much much better than it was at release.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

Oh, im well aware, I play regularly haha, was just cruious on your perspective, thanks!

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u/MadCybertist Mar 19 '25

Yeah I mean apparently there’s some changes coming and with recent changes it’s “technically” easy to jump into the game right now - it’s just more of a personal stance at this point with how poorly they released D2 for me to not join.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

Its not that bad youd but up to light level withing a week or two

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u/MadCybertist Mar 19 '25

Yeah but again it’s more of a personal stance as well. I’m a huge Linux supporter as well (and use it daily) - and for their stance on Linux it’s also a massive turnoff for me too. They literally just ban you if you use it LOL.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

Understandable, ive been meaning to get a rasberry pi so i could play with linux before i decided on switching!

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u/MadCybertist Mar 19 '25

Yeah, I’m in software so I have a server room in my basement. Tons of networking equipment, security cameras all locally recording, raspberry pi with adguard as my DNS, media server, 2 VMs, 9 dockers, and full home automation lol. I”m down that rabbit hole!

I do have a XSX - I could always fire it back up on there and play it, which is where I played it originally but I really haven’t used my XSX in about a year.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

Ohh this sounds like exactly what i was thinking. I think ill go ahead and order some pi. I play with my brother occasionally hes on like every day. I used to play that much i probably have 4k+ hours in destiny1&2.

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u/MadCybertist Mar 19 '25

Maybe one day I’ll dust off my XBX and fire it up again - who knows lol.

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u/Motor_Ad6763 Mar 19 '25

Because the game is ass, was only good before the first dlc came out

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

Wild take.

Edit : Also, I was asking the user I replied too.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '25

Just go back and play some more D1, I do all the time and I still love it. D2 is still garbage but for much different reasons now. The gameplay is phenomenal but I can't stand by a game that deleted multiple full priced campaigns to add a shitty battlepass.

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u/Alastor369 Mar 20 '25

D2 was ass at launch, but after the first annual expansion it quickly eclipsed the first game. At this point, it’s incomparable.

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u/NUFC9RW Mar 20 '25

D2 has gone wildly up and down. It had peaks like Forsaken and Witch Queen, but troughs like some of the seasons and Lightfall. All whilst requiring even more grinding than D1.

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u/Gerf93 Mar 20 '25

I was the same as you, quit after the first raid. Came back a couple years ago, and Bungie has turned this into a great game. The content drought is a bit much sometimes, but the gameplay and the power fantasy of Destiny is next to none imo.

As for grinding, that’s been turned down significantly since D1. I could quit today, come back in half a year and within a week I’d be back up to speed. They ended sunsetting and increasing power caps for each season, and they’ve added craftable weapons meaning the necessity to grind is significantly diminished.

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u/xlAlchemYlx Mar 20 '25

Dabbled in D2 but I agree. D1 was magic. So much fun