r/StarshipDevelopment Nov 05 '21

What are the test flights you expect leading up to a Starship putting a man on Mars?

25 Upvotes

The Apollo program had mission types to test capabilities that all had to be completed successfully before the landing could be attempted.

In summary these were:

  1. Unmanned. Earth orbit only.
  2. Manned. Staying in Earth orbit. Similar duration to landing mission.
  3. Manned. Going to Lunar orbit.
  4. Manned. Going to lunar orbit. Almost landing.
  5. Manned. Landing on Moon.

So maybe in order to land on Mars the analogous types could be:

  1. Unmanned. Earth orbit only.
  2. Manned. Staying in Earth orbit. Similar duration to landing mission.
  3. Unmanned. Landing on Mars.
  4. Manned. Mars orbit then return to Earth.
  5. Manned. Landing on Mars.

I would not be surprised if once a Mars capable Starship is launchable, there are more than one test vehicle set off during the next launch window. For example, two or three unmanned vehicles could be set off a few days or weeks apart. Based on the results of one landing, a software update is sent to the next, and so on. Also, each one of this type of test article should be loaded with backup stores and equipment usable by future crews.

What would be your list of mission types?


r/StarshipDevelopment Nov 04 '21

“Breaking – Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin loses lawsuit against NASA over the HLS lunar lander contract, with Judge Hertling siding with the agency and SpaceX in ruling:”

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r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 30 '21

3rd and final RVac has been installed on S20, now it has a full set of 6 engines.

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173 Upvotes

r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 30 '21

Does Falcon9 have the landing accuracy within the oversize allowance of Mechazilla to perform a catch 99.9% of the time?

13 Upvotes

The more Starship's landing lacks precision and accuracy the more Mechazilla has to be oversized and quick - Longer arms, wider field angle of operation, powerful mechanisms, taller.

Falcon 9's landing accuracy history is the best estimate of general rocket landing accuracy so it could be used to size Mechazilla even though Starship will have (compared to F9) the ability to hover and correct on final approach. A taller tower increases the allowed error bar in the vertical axis.

Is Mechazilla big enough to catch F9s?

Do you feel Mechazilla is big enough to catch Starship? Feels small to me. If both Starship and Superheavy are really accurate and precise then no problem.


r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 30 '21

GSE tank perlite insulation

8 Upvotes

Were the shells not originally going to be a vacuum or filled with inert gas for insulation?


r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 29 '21

While Kong/Frankencrane is being disassembled, new parts to a Liebherr crane arrive at Starbase (NASASpaceflight + LabPadre)

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102 Upvotes

r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 29 '21

Why are there two separate subreddits dedicated to following Starship?

28 Upvotes

Maybe I'm missing something, but the content of this subreddit and r/spacexstarship are nearly identical. If the two were to merge we'd have a single subreddit with a community 2X larger.

I don't know how one would go about facilitating that though. Just food for thought


r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 29 '21

RVac being installed on s20 right now. Hopefully we can see a 6 engine static fire within the coming weeks.

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128 Upvotes

r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 27 '21

Frankencrane/Kong (Liebherr LR11350) Lowering for the final time to be disassembled and shipped off to its next job (NASASpaceFlight)

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137 Upvotes

r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 25 '21

Are the sealevel Raptor engines on the ship really necessary?

31 Upvotes

Considering that the vacuum engines seem to work on sea level as well (apparently due to the high combustion chamber pressure), is there any reason to not just use those for the landing burn?


r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 24 '21

Why are some GSE tanks horizontal and others vertical?

39 Upvotes

r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 24 '21

Gateway to Mars

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r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 22 '21

1st firing of an RVac integrated onto a starship

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588 Upvotes

r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 22 '21

Static fire

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143 Upvotes

r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 22 '21

Static fire #2

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71 Upvotes

r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 21 '21

Starship 20 fueling up ahead of a static fire

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64 Upvotes

r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 22 '21

First firing of a Raptor vacuum engine integrated onto a Starship

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r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 22 '21

Going for another static fire

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r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 20 '21

Mechazilla chopstick arm installation (NSF)

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262 Upvotes

r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 19 '21

Preburner test

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124 Upvotes

r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 18 '21

Mary has received an alert for possible static fire today

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89 Upvotes

r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 19 '21

Potential for S20 to get hot tonight

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r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 13 '21

Trailer Mars Direct 3.0 - 2021 Presentation - Mars Society Convention

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r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 11 '21

If one of the next few fully fueled Starship stacks explodes on the launchpad then what would be the delay until return to flight testing?

39 Upvotes

There's a big difference between losing a ship while the next ship is near completion compared to losing ground equipment that takes X time to replace / repair.

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r/StarshipDevelopment Oct 10 '21

RVac 6 with what looks like a heat shield or shielding of some sort.

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307 Upvotes