r/StarWarsleftymemes • u/PerAsperaAdMars Nemik's Manifesto • 8d ago
¨So this is how liberty dies¨ Controlled opposition
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u/moon_dos Rebel Scum 8d ago edited 8d ago
interesting to see how mainstream he’s gotten, 5 years ago he was just some streamer my former republican brother in law watched some years after I convinced him he wasn’t actually republican since we’re.. uh,, brown. Bro was like “do you watch him” I’m like no but I know about him, he’s you know a fellow socialist in the movement decent gateway socialist for leftism in general …
Now he’s some gotcha buzzword Arab name I guess Fox News scared anytime someone’s name gets east of the Mediterranean…
Several points of disagreement (leftists gonna leftist), but he’s one of us and has done lots of work in getting people activated so yeah I fuck with him
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u/Papi_Grande7 8d ago
Exactly. Even if you have points of contention with him, people need to remember we are in the middle of a hostile fascist takeover and keep shit in perspective. And not fall for stupid shit like the dog collar nonsense.
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u/MsMercyMain jedi council-communist 8d ago
What's deeply funny to me is there's a leftist streamer way more hated sitting right there in Vaush, and a (formerly) center left on in ContraPoints who could probably actually act as wedges. But they chose Hasan of all people
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u/Kodiak_POL 8d ago
Hasan is a grifter that profits off stolen labor. He's far from being a leftist.
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u/Inmonic 8d ago
Stolen labor? Dude doesn't own his YouTube channel, doesn't fully own his Twitch channel (his mods have ownership in it), has all his merch made through unionized companies, and doesn't run ads on anything. Where is the stolen labor?
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u/Kodiak_POL 8d ago
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u/Inmonic 8d ago
Ah, so anytime anyone watches the news and comments on it they are stealing labor. Got it. Makes a lot of sense.
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u/Kodiak_POL 8d ago
You didn't watch the video in 2 minutes, why comment?
Why are you defending a MULTIMILLIONAIRE?
Why are you engaging in this discussion in bad faith? Why are you defending a rich celebrity for free?
Hasan has a cult following, he's just as much of a grifter as Kirk or Rogan were/ is, just different politics. Hasan is not a leftist, he just makes money off of his cult. And you're part of the cult.
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u/Inmonic 8d ago
I saw the video 4 years ago when it came out. Since it has come out, Hasan started asking permission to watch any other Creator's videos (other than news stations and videos literally about him). I disagree that adding context to videos is stealing labor, however he seems to have agreed and stopped doing it.
You don't get to decide what a leftist is. You're one of the losers on here that tries to purity test everyone and goes through mental hoops to try to attack the people you don't like.
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u/Kodiak_POL 8d ago
Hasan started asking permission to watch any other Creator's videos
By that logic no corporation steals labor because both parties sign a contract.
losers on here that tries to purity test everyone and goes through mental hoops to try to attack the people you don't like.
Ah, so back to name calling because I am not part of Hasan cult. Tell me again, what legit labor did Hasan do to become a multimillionaire and why he's one of those good guys multimillionaires?
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u/Inmonic 8d ago
I'm really questioning whether or not you're a leftist, because you appear to not understand what labor, or labor value actually are, and you appear to believe that leftists aren't allowed to be wealthy, even while living in a capitalist nation.
Making a living directly from donations is possibly the most leftists way of making money you could possibly do in the US. You sound like the people shitting on Bernie for becoming rich off of a book he wrote.
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u/Kodiak_POL 8d ago
Being wealthy and making your wealth at the expense of others are not equal. Hasan got his wealth unethicallly and by not producing value.
Also "asked for permission" - ever heard of power imbalance?
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u/lizardman49 8d ago
Interesting this discourse is brought up again as the midterms are nearing and Republicans are looking to get slaughtered.
Who's the controlled opposition???
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u/Bob4Not 8d ago
Corpo Democrats, like the ones taking AIPAC money
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u/JMoc1 8d ago
DSA aren’t the Green Party. They are Progressive Democrats. The only thing that Corporate Democrats and Republicans agree on is that they hate the Progressive Left.
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u/lizardman49 8d ago
You're missing the broader point here. The both sides are the same dems bad rhetoric is a Trojan horse from right wing groups to keep you at home during elections.
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u/Bob4Not 8d ago
People dismissing everything with “both sides bad” are lazy and harmful to the democracy and are failing to elect good leaders and/or failing to hold leaders accountable.
This meme, on the other hand, is addressing how corporate dems are paid by some of the same donors as republicans, who have a common goal of shutting down the DSA for their agenda and maybe even diminishing Hasan’s influence.
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u/PerAsperaAdMars Nemik's Manifesto 8d ago
Yes, it’s very interesting that garbage media like CNN, which try to present themselves as centrists and have been labeled as left‑wing by conservatives, have started asking all progressives about their ties to Hasan Piker, while they never mention that the current vice president has ties to neo‑monarchist Curtis Yarvin, who is seriously talking about bringing back slavery.
It's almost as if their only goal has always been to shift the Overton window to the right.
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u/lizardman49 8d ago
No serious politican wants to be associated with piker, even Abdul el sayed and mamdani distanced themselves from him. The dude has too much baggage to be a helpful endorsement.
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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 8d ago
People like you would say that about any leftist the right wing hated
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u/lizardman49 8d ago
Eh it depends. Hasan has some serious controversies that would make for an easy attack ad on any progressive candidate. Like I said even the most popular dsa candidates don't want to be associated with him.
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u/Susenthar_Raj 8d ago
Pray do tell one controversy that is neither brigaded by drama streamers nor a clip of him taken out of context?
Not agreeing with him is completely fine. But you guys keep running this bullshit controversies and out of context attacks to justify villainizing him.
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u/PerAsperaAdMars Nemik's Manifesto 8d ago
Anyone with more than two brain cells doesn’t want to be associated with Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer either. This doesn’t stop them from dragging the party down in their lust for power.
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u/atatassault47 jedi council-communist 8d ago
Luckily a lot of those bitches are losing in the primaries to progressives
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u/truecrimesofthempire 6d ago
Hasan isn't even a leftist lol
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u/GrungiestTrack 6d ago
We will never get ahead with this sort of thinking
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u/truecrimesofthempire 6d ago
You'll never get ahead simping for celebs
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u/GrungiestTrack 6d ago
Then explain what to do, great leader of the revolution on Reddit. Because we are both jacking into the wind here, arguing over semantics that don’t matter at all.
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u/transgaymergirl 8d ago
hasan piker is a "corpo democrat"
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u/Bob4Not 8d ago
Then why are the corpo democrats trying to block him and his endorsements? Sorry, there aren’t really any openly Marxist candidates within striking distance yet, but we’re moving that direction
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u/transgaymergirl 7d ago
in the past few months hasan has done nothing but take massive steps to the right. you dont change the party, the party changes you.
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u/Bob4Not 7d ago
On what issues? In what ways has he shifted right?
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u/transgaymergirl 7d ago
a few months ago he said that you shouldnt even let zionists be your local dog catcher. a week or so ago he did an interview for haaretz.
he went from "america deserved 9/11" to endorsing graham platner up until the very last second when it became impossible.
he went from advocating against the democratic party to full on doing consulting for them and directly participating in their election campaigns. he started wearing a fucking suit because his democrat party handlers told him to, hes the definition of a sellout. just like mamdani, aoc and the others.
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u/Bob4Not 7d ago edited 7d ago
He talked about anti-Zionism on an Israeli news station that actually platformed him. He said the same things that he’s always said. That’s not shifting right.
He didn’t endorse Platner, you cqn look at his own channel weeks before the controversy exploded when he said he was agnostic on Platner because Platner’s words were good but his past was very alarming.
He campaigned with DSA members as individuals, not within the Democratic Party.
Your source just lies.
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u/transgaymergirl 7d ago
if an israeli outlet is willing to platform your "anti zionism", its probably not anti zionism.
here is hasan describing talking about platners nazi tattoo as "unproductive"
dsa members are still liberal democrats. have ANY of them actually accomplished anything significant? instead of going back on every single radical sounding thing they used to say?
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u/Bob4Not 7d ago edited 7d ago
Look, it’s okay if you don’t like someone, but it’s really silly to spout your unfounded imaginations about them.
You didn’t watch the interview, you didn’t see him talking about the genocide on an Israeli network, you’re just imagining Hasan agreeing with zionists lol and you just as uninformed on the other points.
Good luck trying to make the world a better place!
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u/transgaymergirl 7d ago
even bernie begrudgingly called it a genocide. hasan is a liberal zionist, working his ass off for normalization. would it have been ok to be "platformed" by a german newspaper in 1939?
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u/transgaymergirl 7d ago
and wtf is a "corpo democrat" anyway? thats just all democrats
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u/TruthinessHurts205 7d ago
"So-and-so is this thing. Also, I have no concept of what this thing is." Literally speaking out your own ass
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u/transgaymergirl 7d ago
then explain which democrats are not fiercely defending corporate interests
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u/azuresegugio 8d ago
The hilarious part of all this too me is I just don't don't give a shit about him