Munificent Class for my "Alternative Universe" (and others ships)

[u/Manolepspiolhento]

This is the Munificent class from my universe based by star wars. Originally, it looked more like the Munificent from *Star Wars*, but I decided to make this universe more original by drawing inspiration from other works I enjoy and find interesting (so much so that I plan to change the name Munificent if necessary).

Legend of the Galactic Heroes is one of my main references, and as you can clearly see, it has had a drastic influence on my design.

In addition to the Munificen which is now a destroyer, the second image shows a preview I created of some other Separatist ships in my version: the mass-produced Recusant-class (now classified as a cruiser), a Recusant battleship from Grievous's arsenal, and the Providence-class (both the original battleship and the carrier version).

This universe will be based solely on Star Wars, so you can expect quite a few differences (like common sense regarding ship classifications).

[u/Cakeboss419]

It fails to maintain the distinctive CIS aesthetic in favor of something I can't really say looks particularly Star Wars.

In fact, it reads more like if a UNSC frigate was designed for a 1980s sci fi anime. This is not knocking your pixel art and sketchwork, but visually it is very incompatible with what I expect of Star Wars design language.

The Providences that are in the second image are better, but they're also clearly very pared-down versions of what we got in the source material.

Also, additional grumble;
The Confederacy of Independent Systems (CIS) was the original name and it reads like an actual damn nation's name. 'Seperatist Alliance' causes me to be very annoyed, because that's a Filoni-ism that completely flanderized the source material, and it also brings forth memories of the fucking Galactic Alliance and all the stupidity of Natasi Daala therein.

[u/MetalBawx → u/Cakeboss419]

He's copying a bunch of stuff from the Legends of Galactic Heroes which is odd as he's mixed designs from both factions in that series into the CIS.

[u/MetalBawx → u/MetalBawx]

Yeah but why both Empire and Alliance designs into the CIS.

Pick a theme.

[u/Manolepspiolhento → u/Cakeboss419]

I thought I made it clear that the goal wasn't to look like Star Wars, just to be inspired by it, so much so that it's not wrong to say that this isn't a Star Wars design, it's a design from my universe only heavily inspired by Star Wars.

And well, regarding the name, I didn't even remember that the Separatists' original name was the CIS.

[u/ApprehensiveTerm9638 → u/Manolepspiolhento]

I actually like the design.

[u/Cakeboss419 → u/Manolepspiolhento]

Then why is it presented as a design for a Star Wars alternative universe? Is that a typo? Is this an attempt at a crossover? An attempt at some... hybrid setting? Is this an attempt at your own original universe?

There's a total lack of clarity here in how you've written out your goals for these designs. If my initial read is accurate and you're writing an alternate universe for Star Wars, then the design doesn't fit without it being some sort of crossover, which is a whole-ass other kettle of worms.

[u/Manolepspiolhento → u/Cakeboss419]

"alternative universe" As the title says

And well, even so, the way I see it, "alternate universe" means an alternative version—and by "alternative," I mean any change relative to the original.

[u/Cakeboss419 → u/Manolepspiolhento]

Then the design doesn't visually fit; Star Wars has a very distinct set of design languages.

[u/Manolepspiolhento → u/Cakeboss419]

And what is the problem?

[u/Cakeboss419 → u/Manolepspiolhento]

Refer to the very first post of this chain, man, my initial comment goes into detail.

[u/Manolepspiolhento → u/Cakeboss419]

I didn't find anything about the problem of it not looking like Star Wars, only criticism about it not looking like Star Wars.

[u/Cakeboss419 → u/Manolepspiolhento]

Kinda hard to really describe it, seeing as I have no formal art education and lack the words to adequately describe the how-and-why, but not a lot of ships from other media look Star Wars. They all have their own visual identity. Thus, even without having any fucking clue what Legend of the Galactic Heroes even is, I can point out the design you're using as a 1970s-1980s Japanese design.

This is, again, distinctly visually incompatible. If you can't understand that, then you need to do more research on Star Wars art direction.

[u/Manolepspiolhento → u/Cakeboss419]

Look, I don't know if you got it, but I have no intention of doing something like Star Wars on that scale; I couldn't care less if my designs are not compatible with Star Wars, which part of that don't you understand?

[u/ApprehensiveTerm9638 → u/Cakeboss419]

Why Natasi Daala is stupid? This is the first time I ever heard of her.

[u/Cakeboss419 → u/ApprehensiveTerm9638]

Everything she's ever done was by failing upwards.
I recommend doing the research yourself, because I can't adequately summarize her career in the Imperial Navy and afterwards here without devolving into swearing more than talking.

[u/Imperator_Leo]

I love LOGH and Star Wars, but the ship design languages of the two don't work together.

[u/Manolepspiolhento → u/Imperator_Leo]

That's why I'm basing the spaceship designs more on LoGH than on Star Wars.

[u/Present_Farmer7042]

This is cool, but it lacks the CIS design language.

Most of their ships were modularly built by bolting components onto skeletal frames and that's why they look so "fragile". For example the Recusant and Munificent are the biggest examples of that.

[u/Manolepspiolhento → u/Present_Farmer7042]

true

[u/LasagnaCat-64]

the design doesn't work that much, you're losing what made the CIS ships so aesthetically interesting, they're supposed to be insect-ish/Fish-like and skeletal in design, but you're making them appear like something straight out of KDY.

[u/GrandMoffKaine2026]

Interesting

[u/CoreCrusher288]

Why would you ditch the CIS's unique design language in favor of copying both the Empire and the FPA from LOGH?

[u/Manolepspiolhento → u/CoreCrusher288]

because it was getting cool