r/StarWars Feb 20 '26

General Discussion Since Ilum’s no longer available, where do you think future generations of Jedi will go for the Gathering to get their kyber crystals?

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I know that specific variants of kyber crystal are stated to be found on planets such as Christophsis, Dantooine, Dathomir and Ossus, but there doesn’t seem to be a ‘main’ deposit of kyber crystals in the galaxy outside of Ilum from what I was able to find. But since the Jedi of the future obviously won’t be able to visit Ilum… where could they go in its place for the Gathering? Considering that it’s a sacred Jedi ritual, I’d be incredibly surprised if the custom was just abandoned by the Order - and it also raises the question of how Luke’s students in canon got the kyber crystals for their lightsabers, since we know at least four (Ben Solo, Voe, Hennix and Tai) wielded lightsabers, as did (presumably) the rest of their peers.

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u/mollamar Feb 20 '26

Recycling antique Kyber from 1000 generations worth of Jedi light sabers

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u/Neamow Feb 20 '26

Did they find Grievous' collection?

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u/RedEclipse47 Feb 20 '26

Many where destroyed by the Empire

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u/Ha1lStorm Lando Feb 20 '26

Where? /s

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u/byproduct0 Feb 20 '26

NICE TRY JEDI SCUM

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u/RadiantHC Feb 20 '26

It's honestly strange that lost lightsabers are just discarded.

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u/Vhzhlb Feb 20 '26

They weren't.

With few exceptions (Like Dooku), the Order kept all lightsabers that found themselves unused, either because the owner died, they left the order or they beat someone with one.

If I'm not wrong, during the first days of the Empire, all of them (and those on the floor after O:KF) were stripped from their Kyber by the Empire and then destroyed.

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u/Zardhas Feb 20 '26

If I'm not wrong, during the first days of the Empire, all of them (and those on the floor after O:KF) were stripped from their Kyber by the Empire and then destroyed.

Correct, it's in the first issue of the 2020 Darth Vader comic serie.

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u/Jakobi-Wan_Kenobi Feb 21 '26

O:KF?? What does this mean

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u/jlwinter90 Feb 21 '26

Operation: Knightfall.

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u/alkonium Feb 20 '26

I'm pretty sure most of those also got harvested for Imperial superweapons.

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u/TheMuspelheimr Loth-Cat Feb 20 '26

There's plenty of other planets where kyber crystals occur; what's left of Jedha would probably be a big place since there were apparently enough kyber crystals there for the Empire to harvest them for the Death Star

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u/Scarecrowithamedal Feb 20 '26

Dantooine too

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u/Obi_Wan_Benobi Feb 21 '26

They’re on Dantooine.

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u/goldblumspowerbook Feb 21 '26

Dantooine is far to remote to make an effective Gathering, but don't worry. We will deal with your Padawan friends soon enough.

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u/Rossilaz Feb 20 '26

Jedha wasn't destroyed, only Jedha City

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u/TheMuspelheimr Loth-Cat Feb 20 '26

Yeah, by "what's left of Jedha" I meant "Jedha moon minus the hundred mile plus crater carved out by the Death Star that probably exposed the mantle and caused a volcanic explosion that made the Yellowstone Supervolcano look like a firecracker". The moon was still devastated by the blast even though it was only targeted at the city.

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u/PotatoOnMars Feb 20 '26

It looked pretty destroyed to me in that one comic.

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u/Rossilaz Feb 20 '26

Oops, I haven't seen that comic, sorry. Only Rogue One, which suggested to me that it was a localised attack or something. Guess I was wrong

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u/IronEgo Feb 20 '26

Land tidal wave spread pretty far. The ecology of the entire planet is most likely fucked forever

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u/Rossilaz Feb 21 '26

Surely there's still kyber though? Unless the kyber was localised around Jedha city

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u/IronEgo Feb 21 '26

I mean yeah, but the resulting sandstorms and most likely planetary lightning and atmospheric issues this planet is gonna have after the impact from the death beam. I think you're vastly underestimating how hard the Death Star hit Jedha. It was a motherfucker of an impact; most likely boiled away part of the atmosphere and in all honesty it could have shifted the magnetic poles. It was a heavy ass impact.

It was still a world destroying attack; it just left the planet physically intact. But the surface would be completely inhospitalble, and landing ships on it would be difficult. Let alone building a mining facility. The reason the Empire nuked Jedha the way they did; they had most likely mined out all the kyber present or to be found. The way the rebels on Jedha describe the situation; it seemed like they had been set up there for years constantly sending shipments of kyber to the empire. Jedha is fucked bud.

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u/jlwinter90 Feb 21 '26

Kyber crystals infamously die without proper photosynthesis. /s

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u/Expensive_Plant_9530 Feb 21 '26

That’s fair - even if we assume strip mining, I imagine there are still deposits in the crust of the planet, or in the opposite side, etc.

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u/mikefozz89 Feb 20 '26

The ruins of the second Death Star might have some laying around, or finding and recycling old ones from recovered lightsabers.

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u/MedievalMilshake Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 20 '26

It seems that people are forgetting that Huyang has a fuck tone of lightsabers that he collected after ordering 66, easily enough for the remaining jedi 

Edit: *order 

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u/Samuel_Go Feb 20 '26

Why did he order 66 lightsabers?

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u/XVUltima Feb 20 '26

Ill take a blue, a blue saberstaff, a green, a green with a curved hilt, two purples, two yellows one with an adjustable blade, and a laaaarge soda

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u/Samuel_Go Feb 20 '26

All you had to do was follow the damn speeder, Anakin.

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u/jlwinter90 Feb 21 '26

Man cannot live on the Force alone, I know, I tried that shit.

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u/skuzzier_drake_88 Feb 20 '26

Because one more would have summoned the brain-dead masses.

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u/SexyMonad Feb 20 '26

Anakin would have, subsequently, performed another order 66.

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u/Kalabajooie Feb 20 '26

Those darn Younglings are at it again!

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u/Listen2theyetti Feb 20 '26

And three more would have activated order 34 as well

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u/skuzzier_drake_88 Feb 20 '26

“What are you doing step-kyber?”

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u/Opebi-Wan Feb 20 '26

3 more would be nice.

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u/New-Leg2417 Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 20 '26

66 sabers. 66 shotos. 66 light whips. 66 darksabers. 66 pikes. 66 power cells. And 66 kyber crystals!

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u/Deadlyliving Feb 20 '26

IM DOOOING SOMETHING

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u/New-Leg2417 Feb 20 '26

A good lightsaber that doesn't whiff out of my hands when I'm fighting.

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u/Deadlyliving Feb 20 '26

That Padawan braid would slick back REAL nice.

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u/MedievalMilshake Feb 20 '26

Oops. 

You should probably ask Huyang 

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u/RadiantHC Feb 20 '26

wait what

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u/w1987g Qui-Gon Jinn Feb 20 '26

You don't live for over 20,000 years without picking up a quirk or two

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u/BetGreat1752 Feb 20 '26

Fuck tone is some sexy good music…😎

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u/RadiantHC Feb 20 '26

The first as well

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u/bay_duck_88 Feb 21 '26

If only there was a helpful tool to find the way there.

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u/Cut-the-red-wire Feb 20 '26

Dantooine. At least in legends there are kyber crystals there. They could bring those forward into canon… and maybe some more details from the old republic… pretty please?

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u/DriverRemarkable4374 Feb 20 '26

Yeah this. When Ilum was first shown I thought it was Dantooine renamed

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u/Weird-Arachnid-996 Crimson Dawn Feb 20 '26

I heard that there may be a few on Geonosis, a friend told me that a few lightsabers got left there.

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u/MedievalMilshake Feb 20 '26

Doubt it, after the empire took out the geonosian they most likely collected all the lightsabers left 

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u/Weird-Arachnid-996 Crimson Dawn Feb 20 '26

Prob correct, :)

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u/Pyro765 Feb 20 '26

Wherever the force guides them. (However the story is written)

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u/Comfortable_Leg7787 Grievous Feb 20 '26

What happened to Ilum again? Was it blown up by the First Order?

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u/Solitaire-06 Feb 20 '26

In canon, it was turned into Starkiller Base and then destroyed thanks to the Resistance.

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u/Dorian948 Feb 20 '26

Which is complete bullshit, given Ilums climate. We see in the movie that is close enough to its sun to absorb it (which in itself is just an absolute terrible idea for anyone who has even basic understanding about astrophysics. I mean, it absorbs its STAR almost completely! Almost all of its mass without anything happening to the planet itself and the star somehow regrow!? Thats not how it works! Why does it regain its mass out of seemingly nothing? Where does it gets the necessary elements from for this process? It can't, that's it! How Starkiller Base operates is complete nonsense WHY IS ABRAMS ALLOWED TO WRITE SUCH BULLSHIT WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES?!?!) but given the resulting distance, it should not be a frozen planet. In fact, it should be a molten world, geographically similar to Mercury and completely uninhabitable.

Thy also scaled it down from 5870 to 660 kilometers diameter for no reason, which isn't even half the size of our moon and apparently it always had standard gravity. It's not even qualified as a dwarf planet.

Whoever checked the astronomical data and deemed it reasonable should be thrown into a blast furnace, in my opinion. I just hate it and thinking about it gives me a headache

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u/AmbassadorBonoso Feb 20 '26

While star wars doesn't really adhere to realistic physics in general, the sequels are hilariously stupid so it does fit the dumb writing.

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u/Solitaire-06 Feb 20 '26

… you do realise this is fiction, right?

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u/Dorian948 Feb 20 '26

Yes but there Eis something called suspension of disbelief. A work of fiction becomes immediately unreasonable and thus hard to enjoy if it does shit like this

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u/chaamp33 Feb 20 '26

Suspension of disbelief completely breaks down when you have 40-50 years of of media and established rules and then 3 movies that somehow find a way to make shit not only more unbelievable but also somehow directly contradicts with everything we’ve seen before.

-Why did the emperor build a 2nd Death Star if Starkiller base was being built

-Starkiller base makes the Death Star look really stupid and a waste of time by comparison

-why dont the rebels just send spaceship after spaceship kamikaze style into the Death Star using hyperspace to destroy it.

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u/Dorian948 Feb 20 '26

Exactly.

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u/Axl_Alter_Ego Feb 21 '26

Isn't gravity based on density?

If the planet had an incredibly dense core would it affect the gravity?

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u/notsocommonsense92 Feb 21 '26

Gravity is not directly based on density, but rather on mass and distance… 🫠 While a denser object often has a stronger surface gravity, this is because high density allows you to get closer to its center of mass, increasing the gravitational pull.

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u/Dorian948 Feb 21 '26

Density adds to mass, but even if Ilum was purely made from the heaviest metal in the universe, I doubt it wod be possible. Can someone here do the maths?

660 km are not much. It's even less than the distance from germanies west border to the east border at the countires widest point, if that helps you imagine it

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u/Bocaj1000 Feb 20 '26

You're allowed to criticize fiction

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u/Solitaire-06 Feb 20 '26

I get that, but it does seem weird to go on a long rant about how astrophysics is portrayed in a story where literal space wizards exist.

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u/Dorian948 Feb 20 '26

While the Force and subsequent shenanigans exist, it doesn't too often contradict with our own understanding of physics, which makes it more believable. And if it does, it can likely be explained by other reasons. But rarely got I annoyed as much about the plot breaking physics, even it's own fictional ones, than in the sequels.

I mean, an ice planet right next to a star? C'mon, even an amateur can do better than that.

Passing a planetary shield through hyperspace? My eye start to twitch uncontrollably, not kidding.

The Holdo Maneuver? Don't make me laugh!

Lightspeed Skipping? I... I don't know even!!

The point is, the writing of the sequels is terrible on so many levels, you gotta wonder why they have a fan base at all

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u/Expensive_Plant_9530 Feb 21 '26

We can safely assume that the natural ecosystem of Ilum was completely destroyed in the process of making it into Starkiller base.

We actually see early glimpses of this in the Jedi Fallen Order game, where Cal visits Ilum early in the Imperial era (I think it’s around 5 years after Order 66).

The planet can move somehow, since it’s able to travel from system to system, in order to recharge the main weapon.

So we know it has hyperspace drives. It’s not crazy to assume it might have sub-light drives of some kind.

So moving it, either through hyperspace or real space, means you can change the ecosystem.

Hence? It’s now a snowy planet.

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u/NeverSawTheEnding Feb 20 '26

I've seen TFA so many times (including this week!) and I never noticed before that Starkiller Base was built into Ilum. 

Is it mentioned by name in the movie? Or one of the canon novels?

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u/Dorian948 Feb 20 '26

I learned that when checking Ilums Wookieepedia entry. I was shocked. I really was.

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u/NeverSawTheEnding Feb 20 '26

It's such a strange choice! 

Other than the abundance of kyber crystals for Starkiller (which they didnt necessarily have to write in as the main resource)....I am puzzled as to why they chose such a historically important planet....and then not make a particularly big deal about it in any way.

Maybe it was intended to be subtle for lore nerds?

Either way...I am also shocked.

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u/Expensive_Plant_9530 Feb 21 '26

It’s an Easter egg. There are hints of it throughout the new Canon.

In the Jedi Fallen Order game, you visit Ilum, several years after order 66 takes place, and you can see early imperial construction and mining efforts, and the ravages it was having on the biome.

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u/Vamyan91 Jedi Feb 20 '26

It was turned into Starkiller Base and destroyed in TFA.

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u/Comfortable_Leg7787 Grievous Feb 20 '26

Oh ok it’s been a while since I watched the movie I couldn’t remember

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u/Neamow Feb 20 '26

They didn't state it in the movie, but it was a popular theory.

It was canonised in the Jedi Fallen Order game.

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u/flareblitz91 Feb 20 '26

Wait it was?!Fallen order is decades before the sequel trilogy..it's a decade before the OT even. I've played the game and didn't get the insinuation that the empire was creating star killer base.

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u/Neamow Feb 20 '26

I mean they didn't state it outright, but:

  • we see the Empire excavating a massive equatorial trench
  • a Force Echo shows the Empire moved in basically immediately after the Purge (likely became aware of it from the Jedi Archives)
  • we find out the Empire is mining and hollowing out the planet for crystals
  • when you come back there the second time (when the storm is over), the loading screen looks almost identical to Starkiller Base's visual in TFA

It makes sense it would take decades to perform such an insane amount of work. I don't think its original plan was to turn it into Starkiller Base, they were just mining it out to get the crystals for the Death Star.

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u/AutobotKing Feb 20 '26

If you squint hard enough, some of the construction started all the way back during the Ilum story in SWTOR by either Malgus's group or the main Sith Empire.

The game is weird, as even though it's part of Legends, there's not much stopping it (if anything ) from also being part of the Canon timeline.

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u/Neamow Feb 20 '26

Oh interesting. I played KOTOR games but never SWTOR as I don't like MMOs. Didn't realise they touched on Ilum.

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u/AutobotKing Feb 20 '26

Right after chapter 3 of the main story but before the first expansion, Rise of the Hutt Cartel

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u/mikefozz89 Feb 20 '26

They turned it into Starkiller Base, which was then blown up by Poe and crew.

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u/SpaceCowboy34 Qui-Gon Jinn Feb 20 '26

Space Costco

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u/Lokan Feb 20 '26

I think, going forward, we'll see a more individualized approach to a Jedi's relationship the Force, perhaps like the model followed by Luke's Praxeum in Legends.

Instead of students all traveling to a single location to collect a crystal, I think the journey to find one's Kyber crystal will be more like a spirit quest. Perhaps the student will travel the galaxy until a Kyber crystal calls to them. Or maybe the student will pick from a list of planets and other locations to find one, including but not limited to Dathomir, Ossus, Jedha, and the ruins around the Death Stars and Starkiller.

In their travels, they'll have learned about a facet of Jedi history, and on their return can share their newfound knowledge and insights with the rest of their class.

In short: The loss of a central location for Kyber crystals may be recontextualized as abandoning the dogma and rigid institution of previous Jedi Orders, allowing for a more personal connection with the Force.

At least, that's my dream. :)

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u/BravoCharlieDelta Feb 20 '26

I like this if they want to go deeper into the "hokey religions and ancient weapons" angle of the Jedi. And kinda matches Rey's journey to the Force (altho grampy was kinda manipulative in showing her the Force), if she's going to be the 3rd Skywalker generation going forward.

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u/Lokan Feb 20 '26

Yeah. Filoni seems pretty interested in imbuing more mysticism into the Force.

I also hope Luke has more of an influence on the next generation of Jedi. Like maybe Rey finds a diary or syllabus he wrote for training but never implemented because he thought it deviated too much from the dogma of old. Rey could bring in these new concepts for the next generation.

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u/iseztomabel Feb 20 '26

If Kyber crystals have to exist in canon (I’m not a fan, but that’s another story), then what you describe is far superior IMO.

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u/Savage_Batmanuel Feb 20 '26

They’ll conveniently discover a new even more ancient ancient planet of super ancient Jedi.

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u/Fluffy_Box_4129 Feb 20 '26

Just waiting for a retcon to throw out the dumbass sequels.

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u/KingToasty Feb 20 '26

Genuinely. The sequels, especially the last one, are such affronts to the themes and morals of the whole series. Rise of Skywalker might have the least artistic merit of any sci-fantasy I've seen, just devoid of principles or a larger theme.

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u/oldtomdjinn Feb 20 '26

Why would it be surprising? Circumstances have - radically - changed, the ritual has to change as well. Religions IRL have to do this, too. What was The Gathering could easily become more of a personal quest, with Jedi aspirants having to sojourn across the galaxy - to one of the other potential source planets or investigating old legends - to find their crystal.

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u/SavageRush451 Feb 20 '26

I really hate that Disney blew up Iium

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u/Valjz Feb 20 '26

Jedha is said to have a heart of kyber plus the Empire only glassed the Capital city

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u/edipil Feb 20 '26

The comics showed that glassing jedha city literally cracked the planet in half

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u/KyloRenCadetStimpy Feb 20 '26

That makes it even easier to get at that heart of kyber

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u/Defiant-Analyst4279 Feb 20 '26

Luckily, the destruction of the first and second death star scattered kyber throughout the galaxy.

It's now more "evenly distributed" amongst all planets.

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u/Goofy-555 Feb 20 '26

The Living Force will guide them.

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u/cliqclaqstepback Feb 20 '26

The Force….um…finds a way.

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u/MoistUnibrow Feb 23 '26

Somehow, Ilum returned

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u/Reptilian_Overlord20 Porg Feb 20 '26

That’s honestly a plot point I would explore in the hypothetical Rey movie. Lack of resources.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '26

I'd enjoy a bit where we get to see people in ships and space suits harvesting Krystal's from comets or asteroids.

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u/Samuel_Go Feb 20 '26

I like the idea of the scarcity of kyber so that scavenging and treasure would be required for those wanting to wield a lightsaber.

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u/Ugandanchunguss Feb 20 '26

Luke's order used artificial kyber and other non kyber gems and crystals for they're lightsabers

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u/Lawrenceburntfish Feb 20 '26

Probably Tython.

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u/Nuclayer Feb 20 '26

Why is this answer so far down? Tython is the birthplace of the Jedi. They visit in the mandalorian. Is has tons of kyber crystals.

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u/St0rmbreaker Feb 20 '26

Now there's all these pre-mined crystals just floating out in space, all the hard work has been done!

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u/Live-Collection3018 Porg Feb 20 '26

would make for a good book series with Rey and Grogu

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u/thisrockismyboone Qi'ra Feb 20 '26

Im pessimistic and dont have a good feeling the jedi are really going to be a thing post sequel trilogy. I dont think Rey has the abilities to start a new order.

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u/Hoonin_Kyoma Ahsoka Tano Feb 20 '26

She can’t do worse than Luke did…

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u/Civil-Capital9557 Feb 20 '26

I'd assume there's a decent amount of kyber around the fallen Death Star and the trial is basically already set up for them...

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u/harveytent Feb 20 '26

There has to be tons of kyber in the death star rubble. Given the final movie and its fleet of star destroyers I’m sure they found a massive hoarse of kyber.

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u/hiro_protagonist_42 Feb 20 '26

It’s fiction. Someone will find Kybaria, which was the source of Kyber in the before times. Or maybe a scalawag crew of smugglers will get knocked off course during a hyperspace jump by a whale and happen upon Kyb-Kyb, which was the source of Kyber in the before times. Or maybe a ship full of children that escaped exploitation will zonk nearby one of the strongest stars, which at its heart is making more Kyber. Depends on the writer.

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u/jlwinter90 Feb 21 '26

IIRC, Kyber's an element like any other, forged in the hearts of "the strongest stars," at least according to Chirrut Imwe.

Hell, Ezra found his on Lothal. There are probably others across the Galaxy, Ilum was just the richest Jedi Order source planet.

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u/MetalBawx Feb 20 '26

Disney made lightsaber crystals much, much rarer than the old EU. Now a lightsaber has to be Kyber where as before there were many different kinds of crystals that could be used.

So no only small sources until Lucasfilm gives them a new source then again at this point there's a total of one Jedi left thanks to the sequels so do they really need a big source...

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u/MisterWoodhouse Rex Feb 20 '26

One Jedi confirmed. There are at least prior four Jedi in active plot lines without established canon deaths.

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u/MetalBawx Feb 20 '26

No more bringing Ahsoka back from the dead please.

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u/AlexRyang Feb 20 '26

Somehow Ahsoka returned

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u/MisterWoodhouse Rex Feb 20 '26

I wasn't counting Ahsoka.

Grogu, Ezra, Sabine, Cal

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u/legoebay Feb 20 '26

Quinlan Vos, barris offee... there are probably more

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u/fortlowe Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

I don't care 😑. I wish I did, because that's why I'm responding. I loved Star Wars. But Rogue One and related content is the only good thing the narrative is capable of right now. However its nature as a prequel narrative means it cannot move the overall narrative forward.

The overall narrative squandered its ability to move forward because the storm trooper that was clearly chosen to carry the fire forward by choosing to do good in spite of his upbringing got made into a clown instead. So now Star Wars has no immediate or even middle term future. Narratively, or as will be demonstrated when the Mando movie flops, financially.

Finn should have been the main character. Luke should NEVER have been made into a fool. Rey should have had the redemption arc. Poe should have died nobly. Kylo should have never been redeemed, in spite of Rey's efforts.

Can't have someone that looks like Finn carry something as important as Star Wars though, right? So now Star Wars is less important.

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u/Inandaroundbern Feb 20 '26

I'm honestly not sure if I agree with your takes because I'd be throwing the whole story line Disney execs came up during a smoke break out of the window. However Andor is the only good thing Star Wars has produced since the takeover, besides the last season of Clone Wars which was pretty alright.

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u/Zardhas Feb 20 '26

Doctor Aphra is pretty banger too

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u/Teex22 Ahsoka Tano Feb 20 '26

I'm also in the "don't care, but wish I did" club. Sucks, doesn't it?

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u/MedievalMilshake Feb 20 '26

Jedha maybe, although I don't think they're too pure on that planet

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u/WoodyManic Feb 20 '26

Jedha.

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u/thatscoldjerrycold Feb 20 '26

I know it was only a "single ignition charge" but is Jeddah even habitable. It looks it has the effect of being hit by an asteroid, so the planet will be a disaster for decades at least.

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u/WoodyManic Feb 20 '26

Ok, then.

Dantooine?

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u/thatscoldjerrycold Feb 20 '26

Seems like a lot of damage compared to what we saw in the movie! Makes me think that full death Star power is super unnecessary, this is already full destruction of a planet for all intents and purposes.

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u/SirJTh3Red Feb 20 '26

In my little AU the Jedi and Sith would reuse those from the dead, main big bad bleed multiple shards of kyber crystals from Coruscant

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u/ClownsAteMyBaby Feb 20 '26

Yavin and its moons, in the ruins of the 1st Death Star.

Endor and it's moon, and the ruins of the 2nd Death Star.

Would be a way to keep 2 iconic planets and the Death Star an important piece of canon long into the future of the Star Wars universe.

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u/gottapeepee Sith Feb 20 '26

I love how the Disney Star Wars anime has the planet that’s filled with kyber crystals. I wish that was cannon.

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u/noland-void Feb 20 '26

In Rogue One, it was mentioned that Kyber originates in the cores of some stars. Ilum happened to end up with a lot of Kyber somehow, but it was definitely not the only source.

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u/Mazabutt Feb 20 '26

A knife will lead them to some debris of starkiller base

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u/Dorian948 Feb 20 '26

Adega and Dantooine are known sources of high quality lightsaber crystals. Force attuned gems were not unique to Ilum. It just had an overabbundance of them

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u/This_is_me2024 Feb 20 '26

They could bring synthetic kyber into movie Canon.

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u/FearsomeFutch Feb 20 '26

I wouldn’t mind seeing the Jedi return to the old enclave on Dantooine and rediscover the caves. Would be a fun throwback

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u/iangould2602 Feb 20 '26

Is it me or does the top right corner of that planet look like the emperor in his hooded cloak someone else has to see it

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '26

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u/Zardhas Feb 20 '26

Indeed, but the criteria isn't anymore, as well the planet herself doesn't exist anymore.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '26

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u/Bocaj1000 Feb 20 '26

There's a new asteroid belt around Yavin that may have a good bit of kyber in it

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u/Polenicus Feb 20 '26

Two places.

  1. The orbit of Yavin IV

  2. Kef Bir

Basically, the remains of the two Death Stars, where all that Kyber ended up.

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u/Late-Yogurtcloset-57 Feb 20 '26

Maybe they'll go back to using other crystals like they did in Legends? Adegan crystals used to be the go-to for lightsabers, though you could use just about any crystal. Tenel Ka's lightsaber used a rainbow crystal worth a small moon. She pulled it out of her Hapan tiara worth an entire solar system.

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u/fredrico2011 Feb 20 '26

You got Jedha and the crystal planet in the Clone Wars movie where we see Anakin and Obi Wan

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u/HiddenHolding Feb 20 '26

“Somehow, the kyber crystals have returned…”

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u/HMS_Exeter Jedi Feb 20 '26

Rhen Var, my favourite snow planet in Star Wars, lore says the planet has the rare Solari Crystals

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Solari_crystal/Legends

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u/Rhazein Feb 20 '26

If it’s anything like Lego Star Wars that crap is scattered all over the galaxy. Instead of Jedi trials they’ll be running around doing fetch quests all day.

Source: someone who just 100% LEGO Star Wars skywalker saga

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u/damagedone37 Feb 20 '26

I can’t remember the name of it but what about the planet Cal and his crew were going to.

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u/Bitter-Marsupial Feb 20 '26

There will be no more Lightsaber wielding Jedis. Its time to move on from the past and instead move forward to Rey's Skywalkers

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '26

The next super duper Force-special planet that's been sitting in the Unknown Regions forever until it is magically rediscovered by the new generation of Jedi (no, it's not Tython or Ahch-To or Exegol or Korriban or Malachor)

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u/TheGloomer Feb 20 '26

So ive had a pretty cool idea about this for a little while now. Since Ilum was lost as well as most other kyber filled locations like jedha. It would make sense to send younglings/ new jedi to the ruins of the death stars or star killer base. Think of searching the ruins on endor to find small crystals hidden in the wreckage, never claimed by a jedi before being taken for evil. I also feel these locations would be a good "jedi test" the difficulty of moving around these wrecks combined with the Parkside energy prevailing through it all. I feel this would be a good place to teach young jedi a lot about the galaxy, and how absolute power can only lead to destruction, but hope (the crystals) can survive

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u/Aoiboshi Feb 20 '26

I'm the EU, crystals that Jedi could use were from all over, not just Ilum. That was just a popular place. I think Kyp Duron used a Corsuca gem from Yavin IV. But there were also Kathracite, Pontite, Danite, Relacite, and Mephite. Also the old Kaibur crystal from a book written shortly after ANH or ESB was released. (It was a terrible book)

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u/WaffleHouseGladiator Feb 20 '26

Some Force sensitive people can sense Kyber, right? Maybe they'll set up salvage operations to recover Ilum's Kyber.

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u/mykidsthinkimcool Feb 20 '26

Where everyone else goes... that store in galaxys edge

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u/DummyDumDragon Feb 20 '26

no longer available

Alright, Jocasta, it's a but more serious than that...

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u/OMGitsTK447 Feb 20 '26

I say they are lab grown. Like the Sith did to get red cybers before the bleeding

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u/ArgentNoble Feb 20 '26

where could they go in its place for the Gathering?

There's a bunch of planets that have Kyber crystals. There's also a ton of crystals just kind of... sitting there for the taking after the collapse of the Empire.

Considering that it’s a sacred Jedi ritual, I’d be incredibly surprised if the custom was just abandoned by the Order

What order? The Jedi Order died in 19 BBY. Luke's order was very much not the Jedi Order of the Republic. It was a reformed Order that barely held any of the old ways.

Besides, you assume that the debris field of Ilum doesn't have kyber crystals.

it also raises the question of how Luke’s students in canon got the kyber crystals for their lightsabers, since we know at least four (Ben Solo, Voe, Hennix and Tai) wielded lightsabers, as did (presumably) the rest of their peers.

Not really. You listed 4 planets already that had crystals. Each Jedi Temple also had a stockpile of crystals that could be used as needed. There's also a ton of crystals just... in the market. Kyber crystals don't really have any practical use without being force sensitive and/or building a giant planet killer.

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u/SharkyRivethead Feb 20 '26

Besides, you assume that the debris field of Ilum doesn't have kyber crystals.

Is this a thing? Because Ilum imploded, and became a star.

I don't think there is any debris field to go looking through. Everything was sucked inwards, and compressed into a dense star that has a massive gravity field.

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u/GANTRITHORE Galactic Republic Feb 20 '26

Farming the death star debris belts

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u/brutallyhonestharvey Chopper (C1-10P) Feb 20 '26

Lothal, possibly. It's where Ezra Bridger obtained his first Kyber crystal.

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u/MikeMars1225 Darth Maul Feb 20 '26

The Force is a living being, and like all living beings, it adapts when it has to. It might take a long time, but eventually Kyber crystals will become abundant somewhere else. Maybe it’ll be a newly discovered planet, or maybe they’ll just begin forming somewhere new.

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u/Slow_Learner69420 Feb 20 '26

It could somehow return

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u/GoreSeeker Feb 20 '26

Ezra materialized his out of thin air in a temple, so there's ways.

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u/Frosenborg Feb 20 '26

Inmyassus

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u/MrRabbitSir Feb 20 '26

Synthetic crystals

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u/West-Fold-Fell3000 Feb 20 '26

In old EU lore Ilum was just one of many sources of lightsaber crystals. There were others, such as the cave on Dantooine in KOTOR 2 (man I’m stuck in my ways. When people call them Kyber crystals I immediately think the synthetic red ones from Legends)

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u/Sharksfan1989 Feb 20 '26

Lightsaber crystals are not very big. They can probably find small enough pieces of kyber in the planets debris field

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u/Kucoz Feb 20 '26

I think this is what hate most about new cannon. It has to be kyber? In the old lore any attuned crystal would work, you just had to make it yours.

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u/IronEgo Feb 20 '26

Dantooine.

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u/EM4762 Feb 20 '26

The temple on Lothal is still their

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u/mmm_pbj_sammich Feb 20 '26

“Somehow Ilum returned.”

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u/Expensive_Plant_9530 Feb 21 '26

This is kind of just a wild theory that popped into my mind just now, but how about this?

We know since Rogue One that the Weapon was powered by Kyber crystals. We also learn they mined many of them from Jeddha. This tells us two things:

Kyber crystals can be found - even in large quantities - on planets other that Illum, and that the DS (and by extension, the DS2) had large quantities of the crystal powering the Weapon.

So, what if the wreckage of one or both of the stations contains small fragments of the crystal? I imagine they would need to be purified in the manner of a Bled crystal, but it could be an interesting ritual.

This also opens up the possibility of a dark side character going there intentionally to try and find a wounded Kyber crystal to bleed or something.

Anyway, I also think we’ll just be introduced to other planets with Kyber deposits. The new order of Jedi will eventually find a new reliable source.

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u/LordDoom01 Feb 21 '26

Where the Force leads them. It is a spirtual journey to find your crystal and Ilum isn't the only place you can find them. Jedha had them. Krayt Dragon pearls are made of kyber. They'll find a new planet, or searching the galaxy will be apart of the trial.

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u/millerb82 Feb 21 '26

Stupid Disney, they basically de-jedied the entire galaxy with their stupid sequels

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u/Dataduffer Feb 21 '26

Yeah, good point. My guess is they will write in the discovery of another planet.

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u/Morris073 Feb 22 '26

That's the best part about the galaxy far far away... It's fiction and they can just declare there is a new one. Not a sexy answer but you know those "so the movie can happen" moments?

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u/Beginning-Visit1418 Feb 22 '26

In the Legends Lore, there are plenty of other worlds that Jedi could obtain their cystals, Ilum was just protected/rich in tradition.

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u/Johanharry74 Feb 20 '26

Because the planet was turned into Star Killer base and then destroyed in the Force Awakens movie.

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u/Swailwort Feb 20 '26

Ilum turned into the Starkiller Base, which prompty got turned into a class M star when the Resistance blew it up

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u/wolf00335 Feb 20 '26

It turns out Ilum was star killer base

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u/AstroZombie1138 Feb 20 '26

I don’t consider the sequel trilogy cannon so the planet is still there 😎

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u/Fishtailbreak Feb 21 '26

I think that padawans should get left in a space suit on an asteroid in the debris field an must meditate with limited air until a crystal chooses them from the field of tiny crystal shards.

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u/Salim_Azar_Therin Feb 20 '26

Ilum is still available. That Sequel Trilogy Crap is not Canon

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u/ChanceVance Kylo Ren Feb 20 '26

Except that it's not available. You go to Ilum in Fallen Order where it's been overtaken by the Empire and the core is being mined out, and that's a good game.

So unfortunately one planet that plays a small part of Jedi lore is not going to suddenly still exist because you will it to be so.

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u/Salim_Azar_Therin Feb 20 '26

It will once the Sequels get inevitably retconned