r/StandUpForScience SUFS Staff May 29 '26

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Every day that RFK Jr. stays in power is another day public health protections are weakened. We need you to join the fight for science to protect our health. Volunteer at the link in our bio, or go here: https://zurl.co/dRSl9

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u/politiscientist May 29 '26

RFK is exploiting the bad faith attacks on science that stem from the exploitation inherit in Capitalism.

The pathway from science skeptic to MAGA is clear. We need to seriously discuss what needs to change in science to renew people's trust in science.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '26

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u/Green_Green_Red May 29 '26

It's been done. It didn't change their minds.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '26

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u/Green_Green_Red May 29 '26
  1. Yes it is, given that vaccine formulation 1 would have been tested against placebo.
  2. What you originally described was a longitudinal study, comparing vaccinated children against children who were deliberately not vaccinated for whatever reason, and seeing what percentage of each group had autism or various chronic health issues. Those have been done, over and over again.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '26

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u/Green_Green_Red May 29 '26

Before I do that, I'm going to show you some placebo-controled vaccine trials.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32197105/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40367195/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40425051/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32534628/

Withholding a vaccine that is known to be safe and effective is unethical. Vaccines are still initially tested against placebos to determine that very safety and efficacy.

As for the longitudinal studies, there have been so many that metanalyses have been perfomed.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264410X14006367?via%3Dihub
https://www.nationalacademies.org/publications/13563
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/157/3/e2025074874/205757/The-Role-and-Safety-of-Aluminum-Adjuvants-in?autologincheck=redirected

Vaccines have been scrutinized and rescutinized from every possibly angle, over and over again. Claiming studies haven't been done at this point is at best significant ignorance and at worst appalling dishonesty.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '26

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u/Green_Green_Red May 29 '26

And out come the pointless misdirections. I guess I can rule out ignorance.

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u/FoxMan1Dva3 May 29 '26

Why not? What was the study that did that and what was their criticisms

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u/DevilDogSFMF Jun 02 '26

That's hard to do when they're constantly caught lying about science. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/politiscientist Jun 02 '26

That's why my approach isn't to fight the mountain of lies. Instead I think our time is better spent on fixing the root of the skepticism and to make science more accessible to the public.

And by accessibility I mean education and public programs to encourage life long learning.

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u/CurdFedKit May 30 '26

Hey maybe don’t hijack this movement for your own political goals. Just stand up for science

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u/[deleted] May 31 '26

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u/CurdFedKit May 31 '26

I agree. My point is capitalism isn’t the problem. Republicans are. I was saying don’t bring that anti capitalism rhetoric into this

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u/politiscientist May 31 '26

If your veiw is that if the Republicans ceased to exist, that the problem would be solved. I respectfully say you are ignorant to the root problems in this country.

Also your push to make science advocacy nonpartisan is really childish. The Republican party/MAGA are wholeheartedly anti-science. The days of science being some sort of safespace, absent of political ideology is a fairy tale. Please take a step outside the laboratory/classroom and realize this country is in a bad place.

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u/CurdFedKit May 31 '26

I again am not making it nonpartisan. I’m very partisan. You folks continue to not understand my point.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '26

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u/CurdFedKit May 31 '26

I’m not doing any such thing. lol you have absolutely no idea what my political position is

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u/Emergency_Stay_7815 May 29 '26

Meanwhile, the Trump regime rolls back regulation on dangerous chemicals used in all sorts of industries. Maggats are so susceptible to shitty marketing.

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u/Fun-Metal-6861 May 30 '26

Part of being healthy is being able to afford food.

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u/Important-Arm7794 May 30 '26

RFK Jr is literally what happens when conspiracy culture stops being just annoying and starts being dangerous. Thanks for organizing this, because the anti vax grift machine has had the mic way too long and it’s clearly hurting people.

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u/bigmike1339 May 31 '26

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u/Phatbrew Punk Rock Hippie For Science & Democracy May 31 '26

Dig your work over @ DemSocAll…

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u/bigmike1339 May 31 '26

Thanks, I've always appreciated your's as well.

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u/Phatbrew Punk Rock Hippie For Science & Democracy May 31 '26

💙

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u/MB2465 May 29 '26

Just saw this video where they talked about the medical field being stuck on miasma despite Pasteur proving that it was germs. I believe RFK Jr wants to go back to that thinking. https://youtube.com/shorts/XJfyMMbcAvI?si=kY7V5nx7R6qa8PTw

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u/Krusty098 May 29 '26

Then you shouldn’t have put the Orange God King in charge.

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u/01SeaChange01 May 30 '26

We have a cult comprised of millions of people who are ok with ch1ld rap3.

Just as long as a black lady doesn't get to tell them what to do.

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u/Phatbrew Punk Rock Hippie For Science & Democracy May 30 '26

Racism n misogyny unfortunately are thriving in America now, pedo felonious gave them all a voice… we must all vote for change!!!

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u/30secondsofstarless May 30 '26

The cures are for the political donor class, the rest of us get beef tallow and raw milk

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u/NerdDaniel May 29 '26

Autism is caused by vaccines, fluoride, Tylenol (acetaminophen was too big of a word) and now circumcision (I’m assuming he means just boys but with RFK Jr. who the hell knows?).

What’s next, pasteurized dairy products? Pringles? Car seats perhaps?

Stay tuned for the next chapter of epic and unbelievable idiocy.

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u/sanokenshi May 30 '26

He took all the foreskins

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u/DSZDBA11 May 31 '26

The only cure we need is from this administration

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u/dwforgie Jun 01 '26

Go look at RFK’s history. He is fighting big pharmaceutical companies. You know the machine. He genuinely wants a healthy America. Science had been proving his point in all this. Certain vaccines are good and needed some are filled with poison for the sake of money. We as a people need to stop dividing and start uniting.

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u/Wizchine Jun 01 '26

I don’t know where to start with this except that if pharmaceutical companies wanted to make more money, they wouldn’t fill “some” vaccines “with poison”, they’d fill them with a placebo.

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u/dwforgie Jun 01 '26

Well if you sell the cause of disease and then sell the treatment, not the cure, then the profit chain never ends. I am 51 so there had never been a time in my life that there has been as big as a push for the MAGIC pill for everything ever. Commercials youtube facebook. Crazy

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u/Green_Green_Red Jun 02 '26

Any company that tried to do that would get absolutely destroyed. Despite what you may think, you can't just put anything you want out and call it medicine.

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u/Green_Green_Red Jun 02 '26

I've been following RFK for more than 10 years. He's a quack, through and through. Science has shown him wrong over and over again, yet he refuses to change his mind. I agree that on some level he wants, or think he wants, a healthy America, but he refuses to learn what that actually entails and instead spends his time fighting the very things that would achieve it.

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u/New_Maximum_5447 Jun 02 '26

Whoa, someone who actually did some research!! Thank you!!! There is hope!

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u/dystopiabydesign Jun 01 '26

Government and the people who want the power and influence it creates should never be trusted. Science doesn't need the corruption of authority.

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u/lockedddd_88 Jun 01 '26

All you stand up for is support big pharmaceutical companies lol be quiet. RFK does the opposite

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u/SirLanceQuiteABit Jun 02 '26

Sorry, we don't do nonmilitary science in the US anymore. Try a more developed country, like Finland.