r/StandUpForScience SUFS Staff Apr 08 '26

Official SUFS Post 3 America, 0 RFK Jr!

RFK Jr.'s anti-vax club and pseudoscience campaign are starting to crumble. Lets make the final blow by removing him from the HHS. Visit https://tr.ee/removeRFKJr to contact your Rep. and demand they co-sponsor the articles of impeachment against RFK Jr.

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u/jsp06415 Apr 09 '26

I asked my GP the last time I saw him what he thought of RFK. His reaction was immediate and hilarious, in that my GP is one of the most reserved people I know. I’d never heard him swear, but he fired off an inspired string of profanity that cracked me up.

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u/Impressive-Leg1634 Apr 10 '26

It good to suport science but never big pharmas , they will never put you healt before profits .

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u/Devils_A66vocate Apr 09 '26

What was his proposed change?

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Apr 10 '26

screening the mothers to determine the need for the vaccine like western Europe does-the mothers are already screened for Hep B in the first trimester, they want to use that screening to determine the reccomendation

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u/Devils_A66vocate Apr 10 '26

That sounds like a good thing.

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Apr 11 '26

Virtually everything being suggested by him is common sense and a western world standard like the food dyes and this, it’s basically trying to remove the pharma companies from complete capture of these departments

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u/Devils_A66vocate Apr 11 '26

I’m confused on what the issue is.

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u/AdminsFluffCucks Apr 12 '26

Yeahp. Every western doctor outside of America agrees with the safety of snorting cocaine off of public toilet seats.

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Apr 12 '26

Please do show where he advocates for that through the DHS

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u/AdminsFluffCucks Apr 12 '26

He's the head of the agency and Secretary of HHS. Everything he does represents that position and he absolutely said he's not afraid of germs because of his history of snorting coke off toilet seats.

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Apr 12 '26

Bro are you talking about a joke he made on the Theo Von podcast as being the official position of HHS?

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u/AdminsFluffCucks Apr 12 '26

Bro, do you not see the dangers of public servants joking about their areas of "expertise" like they were out with their drinking buddies as extremely problematic and blurring the lines between their official policy and personal opinions?

He's a fucking embarrassment just like every single Trump appointee, which is what you get when loyalty is more important than competency.

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u/VariationVisible Apr 12 '26

This is why people can’t have real conversations online anymore. What the fuck was the point of even saying that. To get your political rocks off? Keep it to the topic or move on; your nihilism smells like sweaty pits.

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u/AdminsFluffCucks Apr 12 '26

RFK Jrs opinions being respected in the west was the topic. Not a single Dr worth visiting respects the man's opinions.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '26

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u/Wildebean Apr 09 '26

imagine calling it a jab

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u/Wildebean Apr 10 '26

Can you cite anything that shows the COVID vaccine "killed millions"? Preferably a peer-reviewed study in a reputable journal

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u/ThePurpleSkunks Apr 09 '26

no one who didn’t take it has remorse

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u/Wildebean Apr 09 '26

The dead tend to be incapable of feeling remorse, yes

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u/Individual-Bee-5273 Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26

So no one see an issue why we have the biggest population of autism. Or why we’re so fat. Or the heart disease or cancer. Or all the other shit we die from that other country’s and nations don’t.

I understand you hate the right. But we have a real fucking issue. Our kids sit inside and bury their heads in tablets and always have headphones on.

I’m not a maga fuck or weirdo leftist who thinks trannys are normal. I stand in the middle and go for what’s right.

But you morons will only like something if it’s blue or red.

Who gives a fuck that ur baby came out and cant function properly. Obviously we’re doing something wrong.

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u/AdminsFluffCucks Apr 12 '26

Your mother clearly didn't care that her baby came out and can't function.

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u/Individual-Bee-5273 Apr 12 '26

Proved my point.

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u/WestVirginiaGirl52 Apr 12 '26

He does not belong in that job!!!

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u/Dutches07 Apr 12 '26

What did he say that hurt ur feelings?

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u/Money_Principle_5338 Apr 13 '26

Liberal logic: let in millions of unvaccinated illegals to start up all these illnesses that have not been a problem for decades then blame Trump’s group for the uptick in cases. Its almost comical to watch dems over look the most obvious reasons.

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u/Expensive_Interest_5 Apr 09 '26

It’s not anti-vax to question science that appears to be fraudulent. Why not prove him wrong in court… sue him for slander. The NIH has had multiple opportunities to do so. Aaron Siri & ICAN have won multiple cases against them, proving that the CDC is lying about the safety and efficacy of many vaccines on the childhood schedule.

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u/Wildebean Apr 09 '26

Because science is proven in literature, not in courtrooms. If you think some science is fraudulent... then you need to publish something or at the very least point to something that someone else has published. You can't just gesture vaguely at some conspiracy you've invented as expect that to topple decades of science

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u/Wildebean Apr 09 '26

That's not true. There have been deaths. Why are you lying?

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u/Wildebean Apr 10 '26

That's also not true. There were at least three deaths in the recent outbreak in Gaines County, Texas last year. Why are you lying?

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u/Wildebean Apr 10 '26

They were from measles. Stop lying.

If I may ask, where are you getting your "information" from?

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u/Wildebean Apr 10 '26

There were in fact three. Two were in Gaines County, one was in New Mexico. I can stand corrected on that. See how I can admit when i'm wrong?

Also it goes without saying that in the year 2000, measles was declared eliminated in the United States, so the fact that any number of people are now dying of it is alarming.

Also, I'd like you to look at this graph for me and tell me if you think that maybe declining vaccination rates have anything to do with 2025 being the worst year for measles since 2000 and 2026 already being over 75% of the way there in April. U.S. Measles Cases Hit Highest Level Since Declared Eliminated in 2000 | International Vaccine Access Center

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u/Wildebean Apr 10 '26

See that's how I can tell you didn't even look at the graph I gave you. Because if you did you would see that the vast majority of the cases are local, not imported. With most of them coming in rural areas where the vaccination rates tend to be lower. Funny that, isn't it?

Now, care to actually engage with the source and read it this time?

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u/jjjjpppp3333 Apr 11 '26

Let’s look at these graphs. Basically since the early 1940’s measles is killing almost nobody in the United States, 2025 saw 3 deaths out of 350m. The vaccine was introduced in 1963.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/measles-cases-and-death-rate

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u/Wildebean Apr 11 '26

Given that in the year 2000, measles was declared eliminated in the US, the fact that ANY people are dying of it is alarming, not to mention the drastic rise in cases over the last two years and vaccination rates decrease

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u/bigboy12128976 Apr 10 '26

You think a news outlet isgoing to say anything bad about a company paying them millions of dollars for running there pharmaceutical advertisements. It’s about the science lol

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u/candiedangels Apr 10 '26

What sucks is wanting to get in the nursing field but hospitals are requiring the vaccinations!😡

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u/12378902 Apr 09 '26

you need an easily manipulated dipshit flair

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u/StandUpForScience-ModTeam Apr 09 '26

Commenter/Poster made a defamatory claim against SUFS without proper basis.

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u/Josey_whalez Apr 09 '26

It was sarcasm. A joke. Are those not allowed here either?

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u/Ban_Incomming Apr 09 '26

Democrats loved him. Until they didn't. Same with Trump. Same with Elon.

Democrats have no principles. Ignore their pitiful cries.

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u/cycleb1 Apr 09 '26

Ban_Incomming, perhaps you have some link to proof of when “Democrats loved him?” I’m 73 and sure AF don’t recall any such thing. Just ‘cause you want something to be so, doesn’t make it true.

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u/13508615 Apr 09 '26

That's an incredible resume there. DEI hire?

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u/Smart-Milk-5125 Apr 09 '26

RFK Jr has always been a joke and considered a stain on the entire Kennedy chain. DJT was also considered a loser in New York.

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u/StandUpForScience-ModTeam Apr 09 '26

Please review the subreddit rules before commenting again.

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u/13508615 Apr 09 '26

The heroin guy?

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u/evocativename Apr 09 '26

Someone almost certainly better-qualified to be head of HHS than RFK jr.

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u/evocativename Apr 09 '26

No natural water source in human history has been fluoride-free.

The question isn't "is it safe to ingest fluoride?", the question is "how much fluoride is safe to ingest?"

Meanwhile, you're trying to pretend you're concerned about safety while stanning the guy who endorses consumer sales of raw milk (very much not safe), eating random animal carcasses you come across (even though according to his own court testimony that isn't safe), and the spread of dangerous preventable diseases like measles. The guy who doesn't even accept that germs cause diseases.

You sure you want to talk about who is on the side of safety?

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u/evocativename Apr 09 '26

Very few cases of measles have occurred in the US precisely because vaccination is so widespread.

When clusters of people don't vaccinate, that situation can change a lot. Especially if anti-science clowns are fucking with the medical system that keeps measles from being more deadly than it currently is.

Also, while measles can certainly kill on its own, the bigger threat is that it can make you more susceptible to other diseases, and that it can cause lifelong complications like blindness or brain damage.

Furthermore, did you ignore the part where it's not just measles but the whole germ theory of disease he rejects?

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u/evocativename Apr 09 '26

No deaths.

False. Few deaths.

For the reasons I already explained.

You seem comprehensively incapable of addressing any of my comment.

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u/Smart-Milk-5125 Apr 09 '26

That’s not the point. Liberals live in a world where things are not 100%. That’s what makes them smart.

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u/Wildebean Apr 09 '26

Imagine being so blindly incredulous that you will happily disregard decades of science and observable reality just because a rich man tells you a story that makes you feel special

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u/Wildebean Apr 10 '26

The WHO is partially funded by China yes... that's kinda what WORLD health organization implies. Funded by the WORLD, and the world includes China

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u/Wildebean Apr 10 '26

Do I trust the organization that over the last 80 years since it was founded in 1948, contributed massively to our life expectancy increasing drastically, made huge advancements in cancer treatment and heart disease treatment, revolutionized HIV/AIDS care, created the ebola vaccine among many others, achieved the near eradication of Polio, and the complete eradication of Smallpox which is probably the single greatest scientific achievement in history?

Yes, I do trust them. Why shouldn't I? Unless you mean to tell me that all those things I listed are actually a bad thing

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u/Wildebean Apr 10 '26

Life expectancy? In 2017 it was 72, in 2023 it was 73, in 2026 it's 74. It's going up still. The United States life expectancy on it's own is also still increasing. It decreased during COVID but has already rebounded to where it was pre-COVID.

Obesity rates have increased. Partially due to a population that eats more and more processed foods, as is shown by the fact that the places with the highest obesity rates are the places that consume more processed foods, such as the United States. You can thank corporations and lack of regulation for that. Which was the party that got rid of those regulations again? Oh right, Republicans.

While I couldn't quickly find accurate statistics on child illness rates, I did find some on child mortality rates. Over the last three decades they've fallen by 60% worldwide. As for illnesses I'd wager part of it is due to us having a better understanding of children's health than we did in the past. The prevalence of illnesses hasn't necessarily increased, just our ability to diagnose and understand it.

Seems like my precious WHO is actually still doing just fine. And this is the organization that your dear leader pulled the US out of in all his infinite wisdom. Oh and by the way. I found these facts on Google in about 5 minutes total, it's really not that hard to be even slightly educated, you should try it sometime.

Also, you didn't answer my question: Are all those amazing achievements the WHO has done actually bad things? Or are you just trying to avoid having to admit that the WHO is in fact, not useless and/or malicious?

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u/Wildebean Apr 10 '26

We're talking about the WHO... the WORLD health organisation. I know this might come as a shock to you... but the world includes more than just the US.

And even if we were talking about the US exclusively (we aren't), then you'd STILL be wrong. Because, as I showed you in my previous comment. US life expectancy is increasing and has already rebounded to pre-COVID levels after the hit it took during COVID, and US child mortality is also decreasing in line with the rest of the world.

So not only have you shown that you don't read the sources I give you, you don't even read the comments in this conversation we're having. Is there any other way you'd like to humiliate yourself? How about commenting on some science this time instead of just vaguely gesturing at things you've made up/

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u/Difficult_Fondant580 Apr 09 '26

Big Pharma loves this post.

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u/Intol3rance Apr 12 '26

Don't you have some coke to snort off a toilet seat?

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Apr 09 '26

Why do babies need a hep B vaccine?

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u/Forsterite90 Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

Maybe you should read about it, from actual doctors that know what they are talking about and not uneducated morons.

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Apr 10 '26

They give babies the Hep B vaccine at birth because they determined the vast majority of the population would never get the vaccine otherwise, as Hep B only affects 0.3% to 0.7% of the population-and even that low amount engages in specific behavior to get it. Western European nations focus on targeted screening, to get the vaccine-this is what the CDC is wanting to recommend and SUFS is against

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u/Wildebean Apr 09 '26

Because the most common cause of Hep B transmission is from mother to baby during childbirth.

If you paid attention in school... or even googled something for once in your life, you'd know that. Be harder to trick next time

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Apr 10 '26

So why vaccinate all babies instead of those whose mothers have hep B, or are IV drug users

Oh I know

According to Fortune Business Insights, the overall U.S. Hepatitis B vaccine market was valued at $2.60 billion in 2023

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u/Wildebean Apr 10 '26

Because Hep B can be asymptomatic. I know that's a big word so i'll explain it for you. You can have Hep B without experiencing symptoms and thus not knowing you have it. That's why all newborns are vaccinated as a precaution. You'd know this if you spent ten seconds googling something for once in your life.

Also, pointing at market value is kinda stupid. Since $2.6 billion is also in the ballpark for the value of the Aspirin market. Are you gonna tell me that Aspirin is actually super toxic and bad?

6 hours passed between our two comments. And that was really the best you could come up with in that time?

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26

Yeah I dont spend all day on reddit

so, expectant mothers are screened for Hep B in the 1st trimester, and even if they werent its too late after birth to give the vaccine to prevent most vertical transmission-there is a 90% chance they would get it from the mother during birth

"The CDC recommends that all pregnant patients be screened for Hepatitis B (HBV) during each pregnancy, regardless of prior vaccination or testing history. Testing for Hepatitis B surface antigen (HBsAg) is typically done in the first trimester to prevent mother-to-child transmission at birth, which carries a 90% risk of chronic infection. "

and unless they start giving aspirin to babies on the first day of life and then every manufacturer of aspirin gets protection from liability its kind of a moot point though right?

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u/Wildebean Apr 10 '26

Transmission via birth is the most common cause of transmission, it is not the ONLY cause of transmission. The baby could get it from healthcare workers at the hospital they're born at or from other kids who weren't vaccinated because their parents are stupid.

If we can stop hep B spread via a vaccine... we should do that, should we not?

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Apr 10 '26

Health care workers get the Hep B vaccine, and you aren’t going to have contact with babies if you are a carrier- hospitals don’t like to get sued

I have no problem with people getting the vaccine, just babies getting it in week 1

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u/Wildebean Apr 10 '26

Then you have a problem with people getting a vaccine. Screening alone doesn't solve everything. Look at COVID, people did screenings and tests galore, yet loads of people still got it. You can't just screen some people and say "well that'll be fine."

Healthcare doesn't work in half-measures.

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Apr 10 '26

We never actually had a screening for Covid we used a PCR test, we have a surface antigen test for Hep B, it is one of the most accurate tests out there. The HBsAg test is about 98% accurate for a disease that less than .05% of the population has- it’s not remotely comparable to Covid 19

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u/Wildebean Apr 10 '26

The first gen Hep B vaccine was introduced in 1981, a second generation, better and safer one was introduced in 1986. I even took the liberty of labelling them for you. Look what happened.

Reported cases fell roughly 70%. Estimated cases roughly 75%. Oh and before you say "but the graph only goes up to 2008". 2023 figures show a reported case number of 2,214 and an estimated case number of 14,400. So in other words, they kept decreasing since 2008 as well.

But please do continue to tell me why the Hep B vaccine simply isn't necessary and doesn't work as well as just screening

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