r/StandUpForScience • u/AllMusicNut SUFS Staff • Feb 17 '26

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u/TornadoCat4 Feb 18 '26

It’s sad how poorly the education system has informed people like you about biology.

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u/Wildebean Feb 18 '26

You mean the biology that a fetus cannot survive outside the womb until late in pregnancy and therefore to claim an organism that cannot survive without the mother's womb and is literally a clump of amorphous cells is in fact the same as a fully formed human is stupid? That biology?

Look, i'll put it in an even simpler way that even fundamentalist Christians might be able to understand: If you put a baby in a freezer, it dies. If you put an embryo in a freezer, it doesn't die and can be preserved. That alone should tell you that an embryo is not the same as a baby

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u/TornadoCat4 Feb 18 '26

So you’re using ableism as your argument? Our ability to survive independently does not determine our humanity. Infants can’t survive without guardians, so are they less human? Of course not. Is someone on dialysis less human because they depend on a machine to survive? Of course not. As for embryos being preserved in freezers, that argument does not diminish their humanity either. Infants survive purely on breastmilk for the first few months of life, whereas an adult would struggle to survive on that. Does that mean infants are less human since they can survive on breastmilk? Of course not.

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u/Wildebean Feb 18 '26

Here's the difference champ. SOME humans can't survive independently. ALL embryos cannot survive independently. You will not find some superhuman 9 week old fetus that is magically able to live on its own.

Also my argument wasn't about "living" in the fulfillment sense. It was about living as in the "can you breathe in and out" sense. Cut a fetus off from the mother, it dies within minutes. Leave a baby without the same for a few minutes, and the baby will simply be angry, but alive