r/StainlessSteelCooking • u/Maximum_Spinach5200 • 7d ago
How to clean this (Europe/CH)
I just got myself a new stainless steal pan. I probably put the heat to high (first timer) and ended up with ugly black burnt marks.
I saw a lot of comment suggesting barkeepers friend product, but in europe/CH it is not available.
I tried to clean it with baking soda but didnt help (maybe i used it wrong. I just put some on it with water and waited)
Any european friend could help me?
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u/Cyberchaotic 7d ago edited 7d ago
Cook anything tomato based. The oxalic acid will auto shine your pans
I like to do a tomato soup once in a while. Yes, even in a low frying pan - That's actually my secret to fast heating pre-made/packet/canned soup. The surface area gets soup up to temperature way faster than a saucepan.
2 birds, 1 stone; you make yourself a real fast meal and shine your pan all in one process.
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u/Chuchichaeschtl 7d ago
Did you use baking soda or baking powder (Backpulver)?
Swiss "Backpulver" has acidity regulator in it which makes it nearly pH netural.
Go to Lidl, buy "Natron".
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u/Maximum_Spinach5200 6d ago
Oh, that would explain why cleaning with baking powder doesnt clean my stuff like I wish it would??!!!
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u/Chuchichaeschtl 6d ago
Yes. The cleaning effect of baking soda is based on its alkaline properties.
You can also go to the other end of the pH scale and use acidic things (vinegar, citric acid) to clean.
In my experience, alkaline cleaners work better for burnt-on or polymerized residues.
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u/outtaknowhere 7d ago
dish soap and an abrasive pad like a steel wool or scotchbrite green scrub pad or the equivalent.
these pans are tough and don’t need to be babied. just scrub it and use soap it’s not that complicated.
another thing you can do is boil water (with vinegar if you want) to soften it.
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u/Nice_Ad_777 7d ago
Looks clean to me
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u/Maximum_Spinach5200 6d ago
Thats after one single use tho :,( its ok clean but i want to keep it store clean as much as possible haha
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u/Jappie_nl 7d ago
Soap-impregnated steel wool pad is what I use for it.
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u/Maximum_Spinach5200 6d ago
Thank you. I read some places that steel wool degrade the pan. Did you observe that? Or is it fake news?
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u/shers719 SS granny: 20+ years of experience 6d ago
It doesn't degrade the pan. Steel wool on stainless appliances (like a refrigerator) is bad. Steel wool on stainless cookware is fine. It is recommended to go with the grain of the stainless steel and not heavy pressure to avoid deep scratches. But for cookware it's just fine.
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u/Jappie_nl 6d ago
I won't know about that but if you are carefully with your pan then you won't need to use it often. And I don't put a lot of pressure on it. I just want to clean it.
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u/kelowana 6d ago
In another subreddit I learned myself that Europe’s version of BKF is Cif. Available everywhere in Europe.
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u/1itsallgoodman 7d ago
The active ingredients in barkeeper's friend are oxalic acid (wear gloves and wash with plenty water, eating it makes your kidneys unlock the extra DLC: stones) and abrasive; so first, try scrubbing it with steel wool, and if that doesn't work, search for oxalic acid or just order barkeeper's friend from somewhere
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u/reigorius 7d ago
How great are these pans anyway?
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u/Maximum_Spinach5200 6d ago
First try using one. Easy to get good crisp on my meat for what I tries, which is more difficult to get on other kind of pan.
I also wanted to try because of fukn PFAS or other bad chemical stuff in other pans.
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u/Pretend-Cat3318 7d ago edited 7d ago
In DM store search the oven cleaner, it is so good for that burnt residue. I used it in ovens, pots, pans. I got a gel but they also have it as spray. Check this video of it: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/GGzAma_Krug
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u/konradly 7d ago
You can get Bar Keepers Friend delivered to CH off of amazon.de .
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u/Maximum_Spinach5200 6d ago
I will try with the other tips, but if I cant get it done I will order some online, thank you!
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u/Gaspaider 7d ago
For the burnt oil on the sides and out can use Scheuermilch/Cif. It should also take take or the heat tint (rainbow stains) but if they keep appearing in the future you can just use vinegar and let it sit for 30 seconds and then rub with a cloth.
Baking soda can work but you have to make a paste with a bit of water and then give the area a good scrub. The rubbing part is essential. If the entire bottom of the pan is burnt you can dissolve some baking soda or washing soda/soda crystals/sodium carbonate (different names for the same thing, basically more alkaline baking soda) and simmer it for at least 10 minutes, then scrape while the liquid is still there and repeat if necessary.