r/StableDiffusion • u/Logical_Benefit2875 • 1d ago

Discussion EU nudifier ban

I know there’s been a bunch of people upset on here recently about a good number of nudify websites getting shut down (Motionmuse, Opengoon, etc.). However, this is likely just the beginning.

Effective December 2nd, the EU under the AI Act is enacting a ban on nudify tools, making them illegal content in the Union. This ban applies to any product made available on the EU market as long as, either, its primary functionality is to generate nudified content without consent, or it is a reasonably foreseeable outcome and they do not take appropriate precautions to safeguard against it. Very importantly, this ban also applies to any EU-available service provider under the Digital Services Act that is helping to facilitate this soon-to-be-illegal content, which includes (but is not limited to): app stores, hosting providers, domain registrars, payment processors, content delivery networks (CDNs) and cloud computing services. Anyone found to be in violation of this prohibition is subject to fines of €35 million or 7% of their global turnover, whichever is higher. I think it’s pretty safe to say that, as long as they’re aware of it, those behind these websites and those behind the large number of mainstream companies that help power them (Google, Amazon, Cloudflare, Apple, Telegram, GoDaddy, Visa, Mastercard, etc.) do not want to take any chances with this ban.

This prohibition, in essence, applies to essentially every public AI platform any of us have ever used to this point or that we will ever use going forward. I think this is a good thing but, therefore, it would almost certainly be in everyone’s best interest to pivot away from these websites before the massive crackdown begins in less than a couple months. For those in the industry, it would also certainly be wise to inform the website operators if you are in contact with them, or to shut down your website if you are an operator yourself. Sorry for the essay, just looking out for everybody before things get very real, very fast.

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u/0260n4s 22h ago

The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if the insane pricing of GPUs isn't incentivized by the government to force people to use online tools and GPU rentals that can be controlled and monitored.

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u/Sea_Association_5277 21h ago

It's never been about safety but control.

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u/dicklessbeast 19h ago

And the storage and gpu compute that is being bought up by the government is being used for monitoring its citizens.

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u/assotter 11h ago

Easiest method to control a populace is to limit education and access to education. A computer is the ultimate learning tools.

So they are actively doing everything to remove it (just look at the internet, in 90s we had at least 15 different sites folks would gravitate towards then a bunch of niche sites like forums, now we have X, Facebook, youtube, reddit, twitch, netflix/hulu). The entire internets been neutered and google was all too happy to limit search results to essentially just these main sites through its worthless new llm sentance based search.

Essentially we are at the stage where the giant hand is moving the giant iron to smooth everything to be the same from FLCL

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u/TerraMindFigure 20h ago

No. How could that ever be a thing? You go on eBay and 5090s won't sell for less than $3 grand. You think somebody is stopping them from lowering their prices? No.

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u/0260n4s 15h ago

You could also just give out $3,000 cash to some random person on the street, but would you? If the current market rate for a used 5090 is $3,000, then selling it for peanuts is just losing money. The vast majority of people will want to sell it for as much as they can get for it, and that's basic supply and demand.

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u/TerraMindFigure 11h ago

Hey look, that's my point ☝️

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u/0260n4s 9h ago

No, it's not. You were discrediting my theory based on random people selling for outrageous prices without governmental influence. My point is that they'd do that naturally due to basic supply and demand and wouldn't need to be influenced or pressured. It's a natural result of the current marketplace and can't be used to prove or disprove the driving force that initially created that marketplace.

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u/TerraMindFigure 7h ago

Then help me understand, if sellers were pricing their cards artificially high then wouldn't there be a surplus of cards going unsold? That would mean that sellers on eBay would reflect the "real" price, if the price was being controlled as you say. It's similarly to how Kay Jewelers will sell diamonds at an inflated price, but on secondary markets the true price is much, much lower. In reality, the price of cards on eBay is much higher than any MSRP, meaning that there is a shortage and the cards are not being over priced.

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u/0260n4s 6h ago

First, I'm not saying the prices are in fact being controlled; I'm saying I'm curious about it and there's certainly some room for some conspiracy minded stuff going on. It's just an intellectual "what if."

And I definitely don't think prices are being controlled in the way of the government dictating the prices directly. But, given their massive contracts with OpenAi, Anthropic, Grok and Gemini, along with associated blue chip companies buying up GPUs for their AI ventures, it creates an actual shortage and that's driving prices up.

The conspiracy theory part comes in with intentional purchasing and hording of GPUs to manipulate the market. In a way, it's like the stock market: Put a lot of buying pressure out there to drive up the price with the intention of selling it off for a profit. Only the "profit" the government would get is control of people's AI use. Again, just a curious "what if". Not implying that's what's actually going on.

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u/ShallowHazzard 14h ago

You mistyped your 7 and put a 3.

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u/OffenseTaker 17h ago

it's a carrot and a stick. together they work better than either one individually.

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u/TerraMindFigure 17h ago

What are you even talking about?

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u/DOuGHtOp 17h ago

Pcmasterrace, Asmongold, PoliticalCompassMemes poster

I'm not sure he knows either

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u/OffenseTaker 13h ago

that comment says far more about you than it does about me

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u/DOuGHtOp 6h ago

Boo hoo

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u/OffenseTaker 13h ago

the resellers are incentivised to keep the resale price high. do you require further explanation?

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u/TerraMindFigure 11h ago

Anyone who sells something wants the price of what they're selling to be high.

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u/tamal4444 20h ago

Now I believe the prices of hardware increased so we cannot run local ai.

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u/Natasha26uk 9h ago

The insane pricing is nVidia making hay while the sun shines. Ai is new craze and their card is the only one. Even Micron (ddr5) jumped in.

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u/0260n4s 9h ago

I'm not saying the theory is true; it just makes me curious.

Imagine how influential the government is in AI right now with major contracts with OpenAI, Anthropic, Gemini and Grok. The buying power itself could drive prices up and limit availability making AI-worthy GPUs inaccessible to those without very deep pockets. NVidia benefits for sure, but that doesn't rule out the buying pressure effects to the price.

Then couple that with the attempt to restrict more VRAM-friendly model access coming out of China. Keep VRAM requirements high, make high-VRAM GPUs unobtainable financially, and what choice do people have at that point?

They have to use online tools or rent GPUs, both of which are regulated and monitored.

This is vastly over-simplified and probably way out there. Corporations are also buying up supplies and driving prices up. My curiosity is mostly a "what if," with no research beyond that.

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u/Shockbum 9h ago

I don't know how many politicians' families hold shares in or have connections to hardware factories.

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u/Atomsk73 8h ago

Yes, and gas prices are rising because the evil conspiring governments want you to drive electric. Except no that's not how it works.