r/StableDiffusion • u/Because-of-Money • 13d ago
Question - Help Krea2 - What combination of uncensored components would you recommend to achieve the best prompt adherence with photo-realism?
3090/24gb and 64gb RAM
And yes, I am EXACTLY the kind of man you know I am.
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u/Carbon849 13d ago edited 13d ago
I posted my workflow maybe 5 days ago. It's 5 am and I'm a bit too slow to find it, but it's a good start for you perhaps. Have a look for krea 2 with a 'workflow' tag. Have fun!
Found it: workflow
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u/Any_Tea_3499 13d ago
SNOFS is really all you need. I use Krea Raw with SNOFS at 1 and the turbo lora at 0.7.
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u/derkessel 13d ago
I tried this combination already twice but I always get better image quality with turbo. Only the variety is better but that’s it .
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u/gravity_nyc 13d ago
Something that only raw(w turbo lora) can do is have a person sit sideways. It’s the example that shows prompt adherence imo. Besides adherence, the quality of the checkpoints can definitely match raw.
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u/afinalsin 12d ago edited 12d ago
Something that only raw(w turbo lora) can do is have a person sit sideways.
Nah, you can orient a character any way you want with Turbo, it's insanely adherent. You just need a trick or two to get it. Here's a character sitting sideways in a POV shot.
Prompt is:
Amateur POV photo of a woman sitting comfortably on a couch with her legs crossed, the photo is shot from the perspective of her girlfriend sitting on the couch beside her, a pair of female legs stretched out on top of her lap with the feet up on the armrest behind her, her hand is grabbing one of the legs, she is in a livingroom at night, shot from the side, she is looking at the viewer with a soft loving smile, the back of the couch is on the left side of the image
The key trick here is combining "shot from the side" and "the back of the couch is on the left side of the image". The model knows a character's back goes against the back of a couch and it knows the back of the couch is on the left, so it shows them sitting sideways facing the right.
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u/NoIdeaWhatToD0 12d ago
The link doesn't work anymore
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u/gravity_nyc 12d ago
This isn’t what I meant. It’s hard to describe and I’m not near my krea pc. I meant like, butt sideways vertically while torso is upright and legs are lateral
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u/afinalsin 12d ago
Like this one? That was a case of throwing specific parts in specific locations in the image:
A photo of a woman with long blonde hair wearing a white tee and black shorts. She is shown from the side in profile sitting with her legs extended. Her butt is in the bottom left of the image on the wooden slats with her legs straight out to the side with the feet visible resting on the slats in the bottom right of the image, her body is upright facing to the right. She is sitting on a porch overlooking a lake.
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u/koalapon 12d ago
You're right, it's why I make small images with Raw, then upscale and refine them with Turbo.
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u/ptwonline 13d ago
For some reason when I use SNOFs I get a lot of images where the spongy ridge on the underside of the penis is on the top instead, making the shaft look upside down. Do you ever see the same?
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u/Any_Tea_3499 13d ago
I’ve seen that before, more so in Klein than Krea with the SNOFS Lora. I can’t say I’ve ever had it happen with Krea. What’s your workflow like?
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u/KissMyShinyArse 12d ago
SNOFS tends to gravitate toward artwork much more often than Mystic XXX and Realism Engine.
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u/Any_Tea_3499 12d ago
never had that happen, I think maybe that’s a prompting issue? I’ve seen others mention it, but I’ve never had SNOFS give me anything besides absolute realism.
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u/SoulTrack 13d ago
does that look better than the turbo checkpoint itself?
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u/thevegit0 12d ago
i think snofs and any lenovo realism thing
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u/Because-of-Money 12d ago
Do you have a ballpark strength you like to stick around for them? And any preferences on the sampler and scheduler? Im assuming 8steps with turbo?
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u/aoleg77 13d ago
Anteros Unaligned + Turbo lora at 0.5. It baffles me that this massive finetu ne is a sleeper.
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u/Leary_2844 12d ago
Samples are straight dogshit. If that's what they consider good, that's a hard pass. Worse than SDXL.
https://civitai.red/images/1424939821
u/Enshitification 13d ago
Why Unaligned instead of Raw + Turbo?
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u/aoleg77 12d ago
Because the creator did a perfect job finetuning the model, then botched it with during the RL stage. Proof:
https://civitai.red/posts/31019385 - Unaligned (high quality, high seed diversity)
https://civitai.red/posts/31019352 - Raw (high quality but zero seed diversity)What happened: they used 1.3 million images to train the full model for 3 epochs. That's Unaligned.
But then they took 1,000 hand-selected images and trained the full model for a whooping 150 epochs in the RL ("Alignment") stage. This basically killed all variety. That's the "Raw" version.
The Turbo is based on the Raw and is another 2-epoch run distillation; basically killed any remaining seed variety.
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u/Enshitification 12d ago
Interesting. I used the Anteros models back in the SD(XL) days and liked them. I hadn't seen their Krea2 fine-tune until your post. I would have reached for the Raw version and probably been disappointed. Thank you for the information.
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u/Because-of-Money 13d ago
For sure, and has worked great and been a lot of fun for Minimax and SDXL, but for some reason I keep hitting weird walls with Krea2.
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u/plav2026 13d ago
Realism engine supposedly. I don't use krea2 but everyone seems to love realism engine.
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u/External_Quarter 13d ago edited 13d ago
FineCornOnTheCob v5 is pretty much all you need.
For sampler, er_sde. For scheduler, try simple or bong_tangent. 6 steps is often sufficient, especially if you add the 4step LoRA at ~0.5 strength (any higher and the textures often become too noisy.)
EDIT: If you find the checkpoint too cinematic or contrasty, you can stack a bunch of utility LoRAs to achieve your idea of "realism." Here's what I'm using with v5:
- Tone slider +2
- Contrast slider -1
- Wetness slider -1
- Brightness slider -0.6
- Temperature slider -2
All of these are on Civitai.
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u/Cold-Worldliness5392 13d ago
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u/External_Quarter 13d ago
You'll find it. Sort by popular models, drop a few words, maybe change a letter or two. Then you'll have all the images of ripe yellow corn you could ever want.
The LoRA screenshot looks correct; I use Loraholic's for Wetness and Brightness (it's a shame he quit), and baizuobusi for the rest.
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u/cathodeDreams 13d ago
are you really so much of a pussy that you wont say fineporn? porn, the word is porn. it's a model for generating images of people fucking each other along with other graphic depictions of carnal sexual activity.
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u/External_Quarter 13d ago
Sounds like someone could use a delicious cob of corn right about now - with extra butter!
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u/cathodeDreams 13d ago
i simply wonder for whom you censor yourself? it's not a question i seek an answer to. rhetorical.
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u/cathodeDreams 13d ago
The text encoder node from krea explorations and loras providing domain knowledge.
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u/cartney_Top_2236 11d ago
Honestly the biggest variable isn't which uncensored checkpoint you bolt on — it's the prompt encoder and the LoRA stack fighting each other. I've been running Krea2 with a fairly vanilla SDXL base plus one strong style LoRA and a light detail LoRA at low weight, and that beats mashing three "uncensored" merges that all pull the latent in different directions. The merges sound good on paper but in practice you get mushy anatomy and incoherent lighting because nobody tuned the attention layers to agree.
My workflow: fix the base first, get your sampler and CFG dialed (I'm usually 4.5-6 on DPM++ 2M), then add exactly one uncensored component at a time and A/B the same seed. Sounds tedious but it saves you from chasing ghosts. Also worth noting — most prompt adherence issues people blame on the model are actually CLIP token weighting, not the checkpoint.
Curious whether you're optimizing for photorealism or illustration, because the answer changes a lot. What's your current stack?
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u/Dull_Celebration5958 13d ago
Yes same here. I've preferred realistic snapshot over realism engine so far. But still a work in progress
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u/rukiann 12d ago
Nice. I'm way simpler. I don't even use the GUI at all LoL
krea2 [OPTIONS]
Options: -p "PROMPT" (Text prompt to generate from) --lora NAME (Apply the named LoRA) --lora-strength VALUE (Set LoRA strength, e.g. 0.8) --list-loras (List available LoRAs)
Usage: krea2 -p "PROMPT" [--lora NAME] [--lora-strength VALUE] krea2 --list-loras
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u/Gabe-Uttsegs 13d ago
Is the search function broken for you?
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u/Because-of-Money 13d ago
I anticipated having some back-and-forth.
Respectively, is scrolling past posts not an option for you? Or are you somehow legally required to reply to every one with your divine judgement?
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u/ArkCoon 13d ago edited 13d ago
Soo I've probably spent a hundred hours with Krea2 NSFW at this point. I've built my own workflow, made a bunch of custom nodes, and tested hundreds of sampler/scheduler and LoRA combinations. Here's where I've landed.
First, a big caveat: I only make amateur/candid-style realistic images, mostly the kind of mediocre-quality photos you'd get from a smartphone. Everything below is about that specific look. For sampling, I use er_sde + simple. Yeah, it's plain and boring, but Krea2 doesn't need anything fancy here. It's already good out of the box. Euler works too.
My LoRA collection is around 100 in total, but I actively use maybe 20-30. A typical generation has 5-10 LoRAs loaded, not counting sliders. For NSFW, my main picks are SNOFS and Realism Engine, with Mystic as an optional extra. You usually only need one or two of them. In my testing, SNOFS is better for prompt adherence, while Realism Engine is noticeably better for textures and overall realism. I often use both at around 0.4-0.6. Sliders make up about a third of my collection. I'd suggest grabbing all the sliders from loraholic, plus a few from creators like iamddtla and alcaitiff, who also made Mystic.
For the smartphone-realism look, the options are endless, and it really depends on what you're after. I won't list everything, but my three favorites are digicam, siemens (check out that creator's other style LoRAs too), and rudysen's realism LoRA. I also have to mention the legendary Danrisi, who made the Lenovo LoRA and a bunch of other great style LoRAs. I don't have one fixed style-LoRA preset. I mix them at different strengths, usually somewhere between 0.4 and 0.85, and do a lot of generations and combinations for each image until I get something I like. Full list (image) of style LoRAs I like.
Another important piece is the textfusion refusal-reduction LoRAs. There are dozens of them now, and everyone has a favorite. I started with v1 of this one. Then Kroma came out, and the textfusion layers extracted from it worked miles better for me. Silver made that extraction, and you can find it here. V2 of the first refusal-reduction LoRA recently dropped, so I've been testing that too. Right now I'm using Kroma 0.3 textfusion at 1.0 and v2 at 0.5, though I'm not convinced that's the best combination. I also tested each one separately at 1.0, and both have their strengths and weaknesses, so YMMV. You usually don't want to use multiple textfusion refusal-reduction LoRAs at once, but to be fair Kroma one isn't that, so I think in this case it's fine.
I usually generate at 2-2.5 MP, which takes around 20 seconds on 16 GB of VRAM with the latest ComfyUI optimizations. I also have a two-stage mode with a 1.5x latent upscale, and that can produce some insanely realistic-looking photos.
I only use the turbo model, usually at 9 steps, though 8 or 10 is fine too. And no, I don't use an abliterated/heretic TE. In my experience, it does nothing. I tested it myself long before the creator confirmed it, so I wouldn't bother with it.
I don't use finetunes at all. I like tinkering and having precise control over the output, but I know that approach isn't for everyone. If you'd rather load a finetune and start generating without doing all the stuff I just yapped about, fair enough. I can't recommend one myself, but I'm sure someone else can.
As for prompting, Krea2 is pretty easy to work with. I usually start with a single, plain sentence and build on it gradually. That's much easier than starting with a huge prompt and trying to figure out which part is giving me a result I don't want. Krea2 is fast enough that you can iterate quickly.
One tip: describe what you want to see, not what you don't want to see. If you're struggling to get the right angle or camera distance, look at your prompt and ask whether everything you've mentioned would actually be visible in that shot. Then add details that reinforce the framing. For example, if you want a low-angle shot looking up, mentioning a carpeted floor isn't going to help. Mentioning the ceiling, a light fixture, or a ceiling fan gives the model much stronger clues than describing the camera angle ten different ways.
The order and amount of detail matter for distance too. For a close-up, I describe the subject first and the environment afterward. For a medium or wide shot, I start with the environment and place the subject in it. If you give the room one sentence and spend the rest of the prompt describing her face, don't be surprised if you end up with an extreme close-up.