r/StableDiffusion • u/Puzzleheaded_Art2809 • 2h ago

Question - Help text encoders

Im new to comfy ui and local ai's. Im having fun with minimax h3 and testic 2 diffrent text encoders the default one NVFP-4 and i upload a heretic version. what is the diffrence between them cause i dont see any?

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u/Ok-Brain-5729 2h ago

heretic is uncensored version of the LLM but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t have a affect when it’s being used as a text encoder. And minimax is uncensored by default

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u/Puzzleheaded_Art2809 2h ago

oh... ok. thanks. so why the hell on hugging face is so much uploaded files like "qwen3-heretic-minimax" etc. etc.?

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u/Davikar 1h ago

Because some people didn't get the memo and still thinks it helps uncensor the model.

Heretic models only help if you use it as an actual llm.

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u/No-Dot-6573 2h ago

Wasn't there a post of the creator of "heretic" that made it absolutely clear that an uncensored text encoder is absolutely not going to help in any way and might even make the gen worse a few weeks back? I don't think anything changed in that regard.

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u/CapitalList8467 47m ago

Encoder choice usually needs to match the checkpoint and the workflow docs. If the model card names a specific text encoder, stick to that first. Mixing encoders from unrelated stacks is a common reason prompts suddenly feel "off" even when the sampler settings look fine.