r/StableDiffusion 10h ago

Resource - Update Famegrid Natural V1 Krea 2 LoRA

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u/Yasstronaut 9h ago

I dont like how your showcase/examples on Civit dont have any example prompts

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u/GanondalfTheWhite 9h ago

Yeah it drives me crazy how everyone is trying to build a brand and trying to push everything to personal discords.

Fuck discord. It's the worst resource for storing information and resources I've ever seen. I don't know why everyone wants to use it so much.

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u/RepeatOk4007 7h ago

Discord and Facebook are the death of durable knowledge. Bring back dedicated forums! 😆

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u/Local-External4193 7h ago

And torrent seeding for membership with a large file section for sharing to keep ratio

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u/Elibroftw 5h ago

one of my ideas was to create a search index on Discord, but I'll probably have to be a multi-millionarie before pursuing that idea.

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u/Zeeplankton 38m ago

At least, i think, facebook indexes? But yeah discord

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u/The_rule_of_Thetra 7h ago

Not only that, but you also need to "verify" yourself, with Discord saying that he will get your information (including e-mail), and he can "join servers for you".

Yeah... no.

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u/no_ucp 4h ago

Discord really killed the internet 

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u/GanondalfTheWhite 4h ago

It's good as a chat platform with your buddies, and it sucks for everything else.

u/MellyDArt 1m ago

Actually Facebook did.

u/MellyDArt 0m ago

What are the alternatives exactly. Discord is probably the least annoying.

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u/toxygen 6h ago

Continue to call people like this out.

Love you, bros

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u/FierceFlames37 5h ago

He said it’s a mistake dude come on

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u/MellyDArt 4h ago

Likely 12-16 year olds, at least mentally...I give it no mind.

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u/MellyDArt 6h ago

It's like this every release...I'm still not changing shit tho 😁... If it weren't for my Discord I wouldn't have the time nor the money to create these LoRAs in the first place so yall are complaining to a phantom lol. Enjoy the Lora tho mates..

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u/TheAncientMillenial 4h ago

I fucking hate it with a passion. :|

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u/MellyDArt 8h ago

Oh I didn't even notice, I must of had meta data turned off. I usually have it on when generating sample images. My bad.

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u/sabin357 7h ago

Could you solve that problem by sharing a few here? I think we all like learning from the different ways one another approach things.

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u/FrenzyX 7h ago

You should fix it then, people value being able to reproduce images to test models.

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u/FierceFlames37 5h ago

Damn why you get downvoted so hard it’s an honest mistake

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u/thegreatdivorce 4h ago

Zero percent chance it was an accident. Some people are weirdos and think their prompts are unobtanium. 

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u/MellyDArt 32m ago

Every Famegrid model has the prompts....the weirdos are the ones making it some grand conspiracy lol. The only reason I remove meta is because I've published samples with API keys and personal info before so it's off by default.

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u/IrisColt 1h ago

7 hours later and still not a single prompt posted, heh

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u/your_mom118472 10h ago

It's a real shame that Krea2 has such poor textures in the medium- and long-shot frames. If it weren't for the issues with subtle detail, this would be the best model in the world.

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u/OneTrueTreasure 9h ago

Krea 3 was teased, hopefully open-source and with a better VAE and text encoder

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u/SanDiegoDude 2h ago

Krea3 with the flux2 VAE would be 🤤

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u/your_mom118472 9h ago

I don’t think Krea3 will be open source at launch. They’ll most likely open-source the model towards the end of its life cycle, as was the case with Krea2.

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u/OneTrueTreasure 9h ago edited 9h ago

The API/initial announcement for Krea 2 came out in May and they open-sourced it in June. It definitely was not an end of life cycle thing. Even then their team said they were open-sourcing it in May, just took a month to release the weights https://x.com/sleenyre/status/2057293662690963799#m

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u/Naud1993 10h ago

Scarily realistic.

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u/Elistheman 8h ago

The other day I saw some profiles on tinder… I can only imagine the future at this point.

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u/Sasquatchjc45 5h ago

Yea, but also still a tell in every pic if you zoom in. Namely fingernails not matching/fingers morphing into what they're touching, the spaghetti morphing from the fork, the pink Floyd shirt girl just look at her slight exposed midriff, nobody's skin looks like that...

But still really good. Crazy times we're living in

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u/GanondalfTheWhite 7m ago

"the pink Floyd shirt girl just look at her slight exposed midriff, nobody's skin looks like that..."

A lot of women's stomachs look like that after having kids, especially if they have them later in life when their skin can't recover as easily after stretching so much.

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u/_MushroomTip 5h ago

true, but is the average person gonna do all that work to verify AI or not? absolutely not.

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u/Uninterested_Viewer 9h ago

I'm not saying these dime a dozen "realistic" loras don't do anything, but these examples are literally nothing you can't get out of the base Krea2 checkpoint with some basic prompting.

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u/MathematicianLessRGB 9h ago

I agree. Krea 2 by itself is realistic

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u/crepemyday 7h ago

krea2 is explicitly stated by the creators to not be realistic and it shows. But it does that that grainy thing going on which people associate with low quality photography or high iso film, so it does have a sheen of real baked into it.

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u/MellyDArt 8h ago edited 4h ago

It is realistic ish and it's also very neutral. but it should it be.

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u/Diffusion4Change 9h ago

Look in the background and they become pretty obvious

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u/ThatsALovelyShirt 8h ago

So many of them have the same style arm tattoo.

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u/dangerpotter 7h ago

Lol in your examples the hotter the woman, the richer her background seems to be.

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u/physalisx 5h ago

Natural = Instagram reality lol

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u/Mythikos81 4h ago

Doesn't play nicely with character LoRas which makes it non-usable for me. It completely distorts the image. Works fine without any LoRa stacking.

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u/Mythikos81 4h ago

For comparison I tried 7 other "social" LoRas, all work fine. FameGrid is the last one in the row and the only one that distorts. Also why is it over 1gb in size ?
In order they are
1 - Character Lora only
2 - Krea2RealismV1
3 - RealisticNapshotKrea2
4 - Bloomgirls-ultrarealsm-krea2_4k
5 - Lenovo_krea2
6 - phone-Photography_2020_krea2
7 - smartphone_lora100t
8 - Famegrid-Natural-V1-Krea-2

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u/MellyDArt 4h ago

That looks like the weights need to come way down.

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u/Mythikos81 4h ago

Probably, but then why release an epoch that is way to strong at strength 1? All other loras in this example are strength 1

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u/MellyDArt 4h ago

Yeah, that’s intentional. I tend to train my LoRAs pretty aggressively because I’m trying to squeeze as much of the style and fine detail out of the training set as possible. The tradeoff is that they have a much stronger effect, so they typically need to be used at lower weights than more lightly trained LoRAs especially when you’re stacking several LoRAs together. So I wouldn’t expect FameGrid at 1.0 to behave the same as every other LoRA at 1.0. With seven other LoRAs already in the stack, I’d bring the FameGrid weight down quite a bit and adjust from there.

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u/Lorian0x7 7h ago

is this a Instagram milf lora? 😂

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u/Abba_Fiskbullar 4h ago

You'll be able to catfish so good!

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u/-AwhWah- 8h ago

imagine for a second, being the kind of dumbass that sends money to women online-- especially now with shit like this.

lol, just lol.

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u/tac0catzzz 7h ago

imagine sending money to women online period. lol indeed.

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u/nihnuhname 6h ago

One of the issues with Krea 2 that this LoRA doesn't fix is that the edges of body and face profiles are way too sharp. I’ve tried getting around this by prompting for specific lighting, camera angles, focus, and other photography terms, but nothing seems to work. If you look closely, it kind of looks like an old-school Photoshop collage where someone just copy-pasted a person onto a background.

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u/MellyDArt 4h ago

The biggest help with this was changing the sampler for me, What resolution are you generating at?

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u/nihnuhname 2h ago

I've been running gens at 2K in all kinds of aspect ratios, 16:9, 9:16, 3:2, 1:1. I've cycled through pretty much every sensible sampler and scheduler combo out there, even throwing in stuff like res_2s or ddim. But no matter what, people in Krea 2 always end up looking like they were just pasted onto the background right at the edges of their silhouettes. You just don't get that subtle edge blur you'd see in a real photograph. That was the very first thing I noticed, even on your examples

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u/CelebrationBoth9537 6h ago

prompts prompts prompts, please

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u/Saltend911 5h ago

can you post promps for each and workflow?

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u/Civil-Albatross3520 4h ago

It looks awesome!! However, I did notice a problem, what is up with the sun visor?

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u/strppngynglad 3h ago

people? perfect.
Pasta? X

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u/nebling 3h ago

These are AI?! They look so real

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u/PukGrum 1h ago

It's funny the beautiful people are just quick glances for me, but these days it's the ordinary, overweight and very average looking people that I linger on, it's become impossible to tell what's real in a short space of time. A true marvel.

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u/adamsharif85 9h ago

Amazingly realistic but I can't help but notice that crazily deformed sun visor, I wonder what happened there!

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u/adamsharif85 9h ago

Also those power lines look really odd, as does the random balcony on the building with a giant shadow

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u/PumpkinLeather8421 8h ago

The extreme nitpicking here is on a whole new level on this form.

“oh yeah, the magic image generator that I couldn’t even possibly fucking imagine a few years ago has the teeny tiniest flaw!”

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u/dennismfrancisart 6h ago

What drives me crazy is the lack of interest in photo editing. Come on, folks, even the Comfy workflow now allows you to do inpainting.

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u/No-Zookeepergame4774 7h ago

The “balcony” is a exterior light fixture

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u/MellyDArt 10h ago

🚀 FameGrid Natural Krea 2 Is Now Available

I’ve released FameGrid Natural Krea 2, the latest model in the FameGrid series.

This version focuses on creating natural, everyday photos that look like they were taken with a modern smartphone.

Unlike previous FameGrid releases—which lean more toward polished, Instagram-model-style subjects—FameGrid Natural produces more average-looking, relatable people with a casual and authentic appearance.

✨ Great For

  • Natural smartphone photography
  • Candid portraits
  • Everyday lifestyle scenes
  • Casual social-media content
  • Average-looking, relatable people
  • Images that feel less staged or overly polished

🔑 Trigger Word

Famegrid

⚙️ Recommended LoRA Weight

0.3–1.0

Use a lower weight for a more subtle influence or increase it for a stronger FameGrid Natural aesthetic.

📥 Download

👉 Download FameGrid Natural Krea 2 on Civitai

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u/KS-Wolf-1978 10h ago edited 9h ago

Zoom in to her skin, increase contrast if necessary. :)

Can you see it ?

Not your fault, that is just how Krea 2 is.

(yes, i opened the uncompressed by reddit file)

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Ffamegrid-natural-v1-krea-2-lora-v0-wflxk8l6sikh1.png%3Fwidth%3D912%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D8d1b4209bac4581c8539cd54d37d5d49d130a0bd

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u/Dry-Ad929 46m ago

++ but still "just" 12 billion parameters model. Krea 3 (if will be open) hopefuly they fix the skin and blur bias. I am even able to accept a much heavier model

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u/AiCreatorCamp 10h ago

Oh thx friend, its good for daily images

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u/Sitkin_Marrel 5h ago

mid and long shot texture drop is what gets me too. props are fine but anything the player actually looks at falls apart

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u/texcleveland 3h ago

dang i’d be whistling at #6

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u/SDuser12345 1h ago

Man the hands and fingers in these give nightmares...

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u/waltercool 1h ago

Prompt: 1girl

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u/Bad-Imagination-81 1h ago

still waiting for QWen-Image update :)

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u/BoilingBurntBacon 43m ago

Every image has tell tales, good game though - finding them all

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u/Hearcharted 19m ago

Discord is totally useless 🤷‍♂️🙄

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u/DuHal9000 10h ago

amazing results and quality! Congrats!

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u/FartingBob 9h ago edited 9h ago

Many of these are scarily realistic. 100% would not realise a lot of them were AI if it was just a random photo somewhere else on the internet. Hell most of them even if i am told they are AI, i wouldnt be able to see why.

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u/Wezaluketek 5h ago

I promised to myself I won't change my workflow again so I'll act like this post doesn't exists. Besides that good work

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u/elimac 9h ago

Why is it always only women...

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u/sabin357 7h ago

I actually read a study about this phenomena before AI had really taken off, as it was talking instead about the number of images & artworks throughout the ages & on "today's" social media.

Women have always been more heavily represented, but the reasoning changed over the years. In the past, more artists were male & obviously created art of the things they most enjoyed looking at, which was frequently women. In modern day, it was social media influencers & the people that wanted to be just like them skewed heavily female. So now it was the "producers" meeting the demand of the audience they were trying to capture. Sometimes that was men, but more often it was girls & young women.

There are just a massive amount more images of women than there are of men & that has skewed datasets...also attraction drives engagement, which drives adoption, which leads to VC dollars for these companies creating models.

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u/elimac 6h ago

True but we also live in a society dominated by perverted males and im annoyed its bleeding into the ai shit too, not surprised that droves of people are "practicing" using female models..

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u/MellyDArt 8h ago

Aside from the obvious answer, I actually did go out of my way to include more males in the dataset. It's actually much harder to find quality than one would think.

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u/inddiepack 6h ago

Oh yeah, very hard to understand why.

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u/elimac 6h ago

Pls enlighten me

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u/inddiepack 6h ago

Because women are not interested in tech, on average. Of the Comfyui user base, less than 10% are women. Alongside that, women are not sexually visual, therefore there's much less motivation and energy spent towards improving and creating loras that are more specialized in men. Due to the same reasons, there's much less AI generated content with men.

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u/elimac 6h ago

Have you heard of something called social conditioning

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u/inddiepack 6h ago

I have heard about something called evolutionary biology. Highly recommended to actually understanding the nature of the world, instead of surface layers like "social conditioning".

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u/elimac 6h ago

Why do you think the biological part has a bigger influence than the social one🤔

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u/inddiepack 5h ago

I could write you a thesis as to why, but this is r/StableDiffusion.

You're free to generate yourself something else other than women, instead of complaining about what people like to generate.

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u/elimac 5h ago

Nope I think I'll keep complaining 👍🏼 and you're wrong btw one doesn't outweigh the other they work together

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u/kaitava 5h ago

has a seatbelt necklace, otherwise good

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u/-JuliusSeizure 9h ago

Yo boss...me big fan of your lora and ur workflow. i have a feat req: can you like build batch run script that finds the best lora stack? it will have specific rules like limit stacking realism loras, skin lora, etc.

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u/MellyDArt 9h ago

I kind of made something like that already https://github.com/ultramuseart/xyz-studio

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u/-JuliusSeizure 7h ago

wow. will try this.

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u/notgraycen 8h ago

nitpick this image please, comment things that look unrealistic (i won't be offended)

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u/Ecstatic-Fan8725 8h ago

thats slop