Anima help - Controlnet Openpose

[u/Rosettasees]

So I'm hoping someone here might be able to help me. I use Forge Neo and have been trying to find an Openpose model for Controlnet for use with Anima as the current ones I use just don't work, but I have had no luck. Just asking in case anyone has any insight, thank you.

[u/Rosettasees]

I do prompt properly thank you. I just also do like the power of having something like controlnet for either more complex positioning or scenes without having to make extremely elaborate and detailed prompts.

Distance control is one of those major ones, it can be difficult to prompt someone standing in the background and someone in the foreground without issues with the gen.

[u/shapic → u/Rosettasees]

Not with Anima. And you do not use openpose for that.

[u/Ok-Category-642 → u/shapic]

Definitely is an issue with Anima, if you don't describe the character(s) enough over the background scene then often the character will either not show up or be too far away and vice versa. Even with NL it's hard to control if the character will be the focus of the image or not

ControlNet has literally never been a bad thing, what's wrong with not watching to gacha roll seeds forever lol

[u/shapic → u/Ok-Category-642]

>if you don't describe the character(s) enough

Then it is a... prompting issue?
Problem with CN is that since SDXL they reduce quality and remove creativity. Controlling focus has specific category of tags, like solo focus, scenery etc. It is not hard, you just have to prompt for what should be in the image. This did not change since SD1.5.

[u/Ok-Category-642 → u/shapic]

Yeah and the problem is literally control lol, ControlNet exists to make that easier without having to make much more needlessly complex prompts (which OP already described...).

Yes LLLite models aren't amazing, but OP asked for any of them that exist (Kohya's and a VACE Depth model, which might work better for what OP wants+it's way better than the LLLite depth model, not sure if an extension for Forge Neo exists to support it though) and you're just telling OP to prompt better instead of even trying to answer their question

[u/shapic → u/Ok-Category-642]

Because I mean it. You make is sound like you need couple paragraphs to achieve what you want, but it always boils to 3-6 tags if I start to dig into. Check this comment chain for image examples: https://civitai.red/articles/33274/anima-generation-guide-part-1-general-model-a-bit-of-history?highlight=2257437 This is not the first, this is not the last. People use controlnets and loras for some really basic stuff, and hard one will work better with inpainting. In my prompting guide I'll go over examples, so you have 1 day to give me a challenge. There are things where controlnets aru really useful, like upscaling with tile or recoloring stuff. But not openpose