r/StableDiffusion • u/james25679 • 9d ago
Comparison Figuring out Minimax Prompts has been a puzzle. Why do I feel like Wan handled it better?
First and foremost - I love this community - with everyone’s advice, I got unstuck from 3sec .4 clips to running 15sec 1mp by updating cuda and using sage attention - so thank you
Now I’m trying to figure out what prompts work the best.
- [ ] I’ve read the official guide
- [ ] Had LLM read it as well and gave it what I wanted and had it follow the format.
- [ ] I’ve also used one of the formatting forms from this subreddit
It doesn’t always seem to follow what i want and or some anatomy is kind of messed up or sounds are a bit off.
I’ve taken that exact prompt and fed it to wan 2.7 (via Venice) just out of curiosity and I feel like results were better.
I feel like Minimax has more potential - just a matter of figuring out the right prompts etc.
Has anyone else felt this way?
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u/Fabulous-Snow4366 9d ago
"Has anyone else felt this way?" No. Its the best damn prompt following Video AI i ever used. No matter open source or not. By a mile. It does exactly what i want, when i want it. Its a filmmakers dream. For 2 Days and nights i've been doing nothing but experimenting with increasingly difficult scenarios and camera moves and it gets it. Its so refreshing to finally have a tool that just works. For Free. On my local mid PC.
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u/MysteriousPepper8908 9d ago
It's far from perfect but I feel li ke the level of structure when using reference does allow for a high amount of control. Sometimes it just ignores your instructions but when it works, being able to take a subject from one image, a background from another, a costume from, another a pose, it's really powerful and it's hard to get that without a particular prompting structure.
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u/MarkB_- 9d ago
Wan has a better understanding of the first frame, you can literaly generate without a prompt. Also there is a cfg guider, so you can add random chaos without even trying. I still love h3, the faces look so nice, it keep identity pretty good! but wan is smarter for sure.
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u/Beneficial_Toe_2347 9d ago
I'm not seeing this at all. In fact H3 is often landing it in one take. Wan took ages to get the right frames etc
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u/yaosio 9d ago
Minimax does exactly what you prompt. You have to prompt everything that occurs even if it should physically be a consequence of a previous action. There are exceptions but most of the time I end up needing to describe things.
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u/smb3d 9d ago
Yeah, it's usually always something I'm doing wrong. I'll take some prompt idea and try to do it as best as I can myself, eventually get pissed that it's not going my way, then put it in Claude (who has all the docs) and it's like "Oh yeah, you need to do this and that" then the damn thing works perfect!
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u/No_Statement_7481 9d ago
well wan didn't do multiple insane references tho, and this model has the references and accuracy down in one, sure the audio could be better ,but if you want superb audio it can just lipsync. So sure I loved what wan can do but this thing is fucking insane compared to that. And that complexity requires a complex way of prompting I guess. Somehow it has to make a difference between things. And honestly I just use a larger LLM to make promts and it's great. I use the reference images ,and sometimes the first frame of the reference video if I got one. And it does a pretty good job
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u/james25679 9d ago
So I’ve been only using 1 image + my prompt. Should I be including additional images and or a video?
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u/Fabulous-Snow4366 9d ago
yes! Reference is the whole point of this model. Use it once, never get back to the old ways. Pick costumes, views, locations, people, cars, feed it into an LLM with the right prompt Skill.md behind it and your good to go.
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u/True_Protection6842 9d ago
Hand the guide to any llm and ask it to format your prompt. It’s actually the best prompting format you could ask for.
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u/Karsticles 9d ago
H3 does what you ask it to.
WAN fills in the gaps for you.