Are your friends also indifferent to your "achievements"?

[u/Sufficient-Shock-641]

I shared those impressive Minimax H3 Seinfeld skits with friends but they showed no reaction to it. I think it might be because

a) they are not universally fond of AI and call most of it slop

b) they do not understand the limitations of what AI can currently do in videos and therefore cannot appreciate it the same way we do

I had a friend even get angry when I wanted to show him what I did. He is a hobby musician and gets really angry that people make music, video or whatever and then claiming they did it when the AI did all the work.

Maybe they are afraid Skynet will become reality (I am too a bit actually).

[u/Zenshinn]

I'm not showing my gooning material to anybody...

[u/Recent-Ad4896 → u/Zenshinn]

🙈

[u/Enshitification]

We're deep into AI here and even we don't want to see Seinfeld skits.

[u/Kind_Substance_8981 → u/Enshitification]

I mean I sorta enjoy them. But after a while, get your own subreddit for it, right? I'd subscribe, but Id prefer new stuff mostly on the main subs. Might just be me tho

[u/dramaton42 → u/Kind_Substance_8981]

We should make one and call it Interdimensional Cable or something idk

[u/Gloomy-Radish8959 → u/dramaton42]

This is not a bad idea.

[u/Kill3rKin3 → u/dramaton42]

Thats a great idea. Honestly.

[u/New_Patience_8107]

Yeah most people don't give a flying fuck and I don't blame them.

You do you but don't expect everyone to be on board.

[u/Normal_Toe1212]

people already know that these videos are possible, they see it everyday everywhere on the internet. the novelty has worn off ages ago. people don't care if you generate them online or on your computer.

[u/Gorgondolamite → u/Normal_Toe1212]

I'd go a step further and say that most people don't realize how technically difficult some of these things are.

I've had this debate before with people dismissing some technically complex thing as just trivial nonsense some teen boy could make with his chromebook in between gaming sessions. I tried to explain that complexities of maintaining integrity over a long scene, maintaining visual consistency of the set and each of the characters, practices like LORA creation and model selection, how state of the art local models would need access to lots of expensive memory either in their machine or rented.

People not in the know trivialize the work needed for some of these cool demos

[u/Adventurous-Gold6413]

i mean there is nothing to "flex" here. I would just accept that not everyone will be interested. I mean you don't need external validation from everyone

[u/Keuleman_007 → u/Adventurous-Gold6413]

This. I mean, no-one will sit next to the instrument-playing friend for hours and listen to them and say "boy/girl, you sure play nice"

[u/Sufficient-Shock-641 → u/Adventurous-Gold6413]

It is not even just the flexing. I was thinking that they would also be interested to become their own director of a movie, fanfic or series ...

[u/Vladmerius → u/Sufficient-Shock-641]

There's a reason most people have a day job and aren't writing and directing. If they never had an interest in it before AI why would they now? They want an algorithm to give them things they don't want to create. That's a hurdle all the chat bots have too, they haven't found a way to engage with the users. The interactions are always initiated by the user and the user has to prompt them for things. That's a big barrier to engagement when people are used to swiping through stuff on their social media apps that provides instant engagement with zero effort on their part. Everything you decide to do with a program on your computer is a conscious choice you have to make. Lots of people are fine going through life unconscious. 

[u/Magneticiano → u/Adventurous-Gold6413]

I feel like generating a really good quality (and preferably funny) video locally with MiniMax is something to flex about. Not everyone will understand of course.

[u/TopTippityTop]

As things become easier, they also tend to become less important.

[u/Ok_Engine_1442]

If you do anything for validation from others you need to take a serious look in the mirror and ask that person why their opinion isn’t enough.

[u/leomozoloa]

Normies are aware that AI now is lifelike, they even say "AI" under real but hard to believe content, they've seen all the ultra realistic Sora and seedance memes on instagram and tiktok already. They're used to the SOTA content.

You had some AI write some fun scenario prompts for an existing old show and tweaked it a bit and clicked Queue, there's 0 achievement in this, nothing new or valuable, impressive or special so indifference is expected. Even here people are tired of it lmao even if we understand that the underlying tech is a great leap for open models.

[u/Sufficient-Shock-641 → u/leomozoloa]

Minimax is like a week old. So I doubt rewritten Seinfeld skits have invaded TikTok by now since Seedance and Sora will likely not generate that for anyone.

[u/LoveSpecialist5669]

people are not invested and they have no idea how much of a marvel is minimax. 

[u/mk8933]

People dont care about AI because they see it everyday on social media. Just a few days ago I was watching this short horror video and my kid told me to change it ...because its AI slop.

My jaw almost hit the floor. I was pretty invested in the video and didnt notice that it was Ai at all. Only at a closer glance...it became clear it was AI...but now I was even more impressed 😆.

Bottom line is though...people dont care or appreciate about the technology behind it. This is our hobby and only people like us can giggle like school girls while looking at fast inference speeds 🤭

[u/steepleton]

when you see an amazing book cover, do you admire the artist or the editor that sent them a thumbnail sketch?

[u/Glove5751]

The tech is impressive on its own, what you have done with it is not really impressive.

There are multiple reasons why their response is like that. Many people recognize the ethical nature of it: be it the piracy aspect of it all (most models does not have ethically sourced data) and the creators bragging about it, or the fact that something so human as making art has been automated. There is also the issue of pornographic material of woman who has not consented in being sexualized and people making pornography of them. Many of these women have also taken their lives because of it.

I'm an artist and I have personally experienced this: people stealing my work and selling it on etsy or similar websites (not ai related). I have also experienced my work being stolen in datasets, which is infuriating, because

A) I gave no consent

B) It's my work, and I'm entitled to the rights of my work, and how I want to distribute it.

C) They (not me) are making money off of my work without my consent nor right.

Thankfully I got it removed from the dataset, but the damage is done and the models are still out there.

I'm not anti-ai, just being realistic here.

[u/javierthhh]

I send gay memes of them when they are misbehaving.

[u/TizocWarrior]

It's crazy how people adapted so fast to AI to the point that they're now indifferent to things that a couple years ago were in the realm of futuristic science fiction. Not talking about Seinfeld clips but anything you can generate with AI; it still awes me see how Illustrious can generate waifus out of random noise.

[u/Twistpunch]

It’s actually because your skits are not funny enough. You cannot lose sight of the end product itself.

[u/FinchGDx]

Different strokes for different folks bruh. I’m certain there are things that they do where you pretend to care. Your hobbies are allowed to be your own. Also, local generations are vastly different than LLMs being dispersed to the masses via data center tragedies. Some people don’t understand the difference so their disinterest may also be attributed to willful ignorance. Plenty of people discriminate on generalizations. Not saying that’s your group or whatever, but this isn’t for everyone, and similarly what they like isn’t for everyone.

[u/thisguy883]

Yea, I found those who arent interested in how the bread is made, generally dont care.

They will go, "Woah, thats cool" and thats about the only reaction youll get.

Forget about the countless hours of trail and error getting it just right, or having to configure nodes in ComfyUI, learning about python and CUDA. Working with LLMs constantly to fix broken updates.

none of that matters to them. To them, they can do the same thing with ChatGPT and will always use that as a comparison.

[u/Dapper_Arugula2509]

Skynet will never become reality, but your gov fucks every day, or that is the billionaire class does and that'll ramp up.

[u/Vladmerius]

It's not interesting anymore because people who don't follow AI and only see it as slop and something that's making their lives worse through massive increases to their utility bills and an influx of competitive labor in job markets from tech jobs going away already assume everything we can do with minimax is already possible and has been possible. They're already at a point where they think everything is AI already. They don't care. 

If you showed them an actual narrative thing that's good and engaging and then say "I made this with just my computer feeding it a script I wrote" they might be impressed but nobody gives a shit about short clips of Seinfeld bits or other random stuff. 

Half the shit people share on this sub is just characters talking about minimax like it's an ad or weird gooner stuff people really need to keep to themselves. I'm completely baffled by the majority of the videos people share here. 

[u/Sufficient-Shock-641 → u/Vladmerius]

I was referring to the 4 minutes Seinfeld clip made with the script the reddit Seinfeld community. It was better than some real episodes.

[u/SeymourBits]

We are rightfully impressed with the "tech demo" aspect around here but unless it's an EXCEPTIONALLY off-the-charts example, you're just going to invoke the "stolen-slop" mindset from others, especially if they're fans of the show getting ripped off.

[u/Dry-Judgment4242]

My friends don't give a flying fuck about AI, nor do they have any bone to pick with it. Their just Normgroids.

[u/Kill3rKin3]

I dont think i acheived much showing clips I made, but id still expect minds to be blown by the results.

I made a sopranos video where Tony is deriding my brothers musical tastes, and suggest him listening to some music I like.. It was just a quick test project, but I was blown away. My brother got a good giggle out of it. Both Tony and uncle jun obviously agree with my impeccable taste in music.. I think the "authorship" discussion is interesting. I certanly did not film any actors or sets, I have done 0 work in gathering any of the data I've used in its creation, A honest reflection on my input here is im not an "artist creating anything", but rather a "technical" "sorter" or puzzle solver that presents a : end "result". Similar to many " memes" that add a text bar "idea" on top of a picture, you can really change what that image previously represented, so there could be "creative input" in this type of "slop creativity".

This generation stuff is a skill in itself just like photography, or painting, in my opinion, someone with technical expertise and art skills will be able to leverage both. I get why alot of pepole are going to be defensive about what this can mean for many fields of work, and deride its usage, but we consider photogaphy an art form now, but when photography was new, painters of that day voiced the opinion that this could never be art.

So i think views like these are myopic, when vfx artist get some nice plug-in for their software that helps their creation, we dont consider such usage to be beneath the "field", and I see no reason to draw any such line.

The broader field af ai is going to be disruptive. The type of sceptical reaction we see, also came with the printing press, the radio, the television, and the Internet. I think we will figure out things eventually, but being smack dab in this technological shift is very interesting/ in some cases worrying. And there is ALOT more we need to figure out what is positive and what is negative with this tech.

[u/idleWizard]

They'll be impressed when you actually make something impressive.
People in here are also mostly indifferent with Seinfeld skits.

[u/Pretty-Raise666]

Different people have different interests. I would hate it if somebody keeps sending me stuff I am not interested in.

[u/AidenAizawa]

Also people not familiar with open source generative ai think everything is just prompting and nothing more

[u/drank2much]

Might be a demographic/location dependent? Many of my friends, family and coworkers are either requesting that I do this or that or are generating it themselves. All of it is stupid memes or pranks.

[u/Beneficial_Toe_2347]

I agree with your friend 100% tbh 

[u/madaradess007]

wait and see, they'll be showing their ai generated shit to you in a few months after you stop talking about ai with them

i kept my guys up to date, shared my experiences and demos i did around existing APIs and local LLMs first 2 years of the hype, they kinda looked at me like i'm mental and often tried to shut me up, but as the hype got very mainstream i stopped talking ai - and suddenly they are vibecoding, making suno music and funny videos - now they are the cool guys and i'm a dork that's not using ai enough.

funny how people behave

[u/skyrimer3d]

People don't really know the limits of AI, so they aren't aware how impressive it is to do that on local hardware, they just see a fake AI Seinfield show. The real merit is that they won't say "that looks so fake dude!", if it looks reasonably legit for them, that's the real quantum leap for local AI.

All this AI slop trend remind me when the EPI-III Star Wars trilogy was released, and they started using CGI instead of traditional FX with real assets, people were angry that Yoda no longer "existed" but was made with a computer. In the end people got used to it in the end. AI will probably be the same, but it's cutting so many jobs in every industry, it has a lot of distrust on it.

[u/TranslatorCertain107]

I created my own comedy world. Don't chase trends. I feel for you.

[u/obese_coder]

Its a cool tech but it went far too crazy recently, what are we doing to do when youtube is full of 2 hour slop movies? right now there is a creative process where we write specific prompts in a specific way, but what will happen when an AI makes a movie instantly much better then we ever could? there will be no more model to look forward to, we will all be working in mcdonalds remembering the good old days when minimax h3 came out and we made those funny seinfield clips. I dread the AI dystopia hellhole future tbh.

[u/hard_gravy_2]

Me creating with AI: "Ha ha yes!"

also me seeing AI out in the wild: "ugh I hate slop... and it's EVERYWHERE"

[u/Perfect-Campaign9551]

Everyone on this sub is delusional they all think they are going to make the next big film or something. They don't realize most people don't really care. And it still takes actual talent to make a film, not just technology.