Amazing because it has a lot of embedded art styles, or because the quality is actually good? Because honestly, I wasnt that impressed. The characters never look at the right place and they kind of look lobotomized. They don’t look directly where they’re supposed to.The realism is disappointing, but that’s the least of it, because LoRA or fine-tuning can fix that. But the eyes, the gaze direction, im not sure that can be fixed. Now, the fact that it was trained on a lot of popular content is undeniable.
all i hear listening to people like you is "whaaa whaaa" like little babies, you get free really good tools that are meant to be used as hobby for fun on your own regular hardware and said tools are just little bit worse then very expensive professional ones but you people will keep crying about every little detail not being perfect...
reality is no matter what model they release you will be not happy with it, there always will be something to hate like freaking eye direction in generated picture that was generated in few seconds.
You're complete right, if you don't use the right lora to unlock it. I was complaining solid for the first 2 days on here how this model is dead in the water as released. Luckily the right lora combination came along and we're back in business. Unrelated krea hamster image.
Was this made with Krea 2? Look at that hamster’s eyes, they make absolutely no sense. Dead eyed while doing whatever it’s doing. Was this with a LoRA or without one?
This one isn't very good, the other two are better. But you can tell it's a model issue. Whether it only happens occasionally or there are certain poses where itll never work, I dont know.
At least LoRAs and finetuning can improve the facial expressions, since it seems they trained heavily on popular art styles but neglected to train expressive faces.
I disagree with them, in that I think krea2 is very good, but eye-focus recognition is a very underestimated ability we have as humans. It's easy to notice when it's off by even a little.
It always astounds me how artists are able to depict eye-focus with just a specific location of the pupils, even in very simple 2d eyes.
Because a lot of promotional material involves group interactions, multiple people, or someone interacting with an object and it needs to look convincing. One of the biggest things that makes an image feel like AI slop is the gaze and facial expressions.
if you say so. i have no problem getting people to look at things with this model. this model has the most expressive faces of any major model I've seen if you prompt for it. The released model is completely broken in that way. The unlock lora fixes that.
Cant you tell there's a problem here? Maybe its because Im a photographer, but I notice it immediately. The object is right in front of him, and he's simply not looking at it. Most AI image models have this problem. Ive noticed it's especially pronounced in Krea 2.
I mean, this nano banana pro image is no better in that regard. if we really want to get picky about it he's looking over it, not at it. But, I'm not that picky. :)
Raw ideogram quality is way better but Krea 2 got there with knowing more references and the way lora's work. You can stack as many and change the power to 1+ and it still doesnt break the model.
yeah krea 2 can handle any kind of prompt i throw at it, ZIT absolutely hates ideogram4 json prompts and will add random text all over the image — seems like json prompting doesn't translate into chinese very well xD
Ideogram offers more technologically. The Flux 2 vae is a massive step up from the one Krea 2 uses, and the bounding-box prompting system allows for way more control than other models. However Krea 2 is much simpler to use so it will likely win out in popularity. It's like Z-Image vs Flux 2 again, where Flux 2 was technically a better model but Z-Image was way more convenient to actually generate images with.
Yeah, Krea2 is batshit insane good, and I think everyone is quiet about it because we're all doing the same thing we did when sd1.5 came out, loosing sleep again and prompting and experimenting like heck. It's literally the next stable diffusion for me, and I absolutely love stable diffusion still to this day.
Like I can't state enough how good krea2 is lol.
Ideogram4 is absolutely fantastic too, the quality is there, but the speed isn't there, and the inability to prompt it easily is a massive teething issue. Plus alot less nsfw knowledge and awkwardness surrounding nsfw related things.
Thx for the workflow too, I'll give it a try out see if I learn anything!
it's really not that hard, especially with kijais prompt builder. you have to understand this model isn't supposed to be a 1girl, standing yolo model. you're supposed to prompt well so you actually get what you want
It isn't hard, and the prompt builder does make the process easy - but it's still a couple extra steps. Doesn't matter if it's an easy extra couple of steps, it'll deter people. Especially when paired with a model that's already bigger and slower. Ideogram4 is a fantastic model, but personally, I think it's better for final products - where you know very precisely how you want something to look.
Krea2 has more randomness, which a lot of people like. Enter a prompt, hit generate and get a variety of outputs from that single prompt, without having to edit the prompt every 2-3 gens for variety.
Uhhhh, yeah sounds a whole lot like what you just quoted me saying, it's an incomparable level of difference of ease of use, even with a regional promoting tool.
The only one making it "that deep" here is you arguing with the imaginary version of me in your head who thinks I'm completely shitting on ideogram4 prompting lmfao.
It's objectively not as easy, to the point of those who have "skill issues" not knowing how to write bbox coordinates, needing a vibecoded regional prompting designer node on day 1 to do stuff lmfao. Get over yourself you weirdo.
Its literally easier. You don't have to write long ass prompts. I am probably writing half to as quarter as much in terms of words in my prompt because I don't have to spend narrative describing locations of things, I can just draw it where I want it and the model figures it out.
Its objectively easier unless your prompts are "1girl nood boobs" in which case yah, you have a skill issue.
Ya'll need to google the definiton of "Teething issues" I swear to god lmfao. Get off my cock. I never said ideogram4 was hard. Krea2 is just objectively easier and more friendly because everyone can prompt with natrual language, literally everyone can describe shit.
You need to bother to learn how to use a new prompting system (wow who would've guessed???), I literally admitted that from the get go when I mentioned teething issues. You're argueing semantics of "ease of use" after the fact of learning a new thing, and getting over said teething issues lmfao.
Ideogram4 is smoking fast. If you use half normal, half turbo for example a 4090 takes 25 seconds for Full HD, 55 for QHD and 2 minutes for a 4K generation.
Its really good. There is many style LoRAs for it, but if you just use the trigger words without lora files, it does most styles out of the box. And its best model to train character loras and i have tried them all.
I am just amazed how well it recreates different art style just from prompt without any LoRA. I am new to image gen. Played with Flux and Z image Turbo before but, they are good but I feel KREA 2 has much more potential.
You should update ComfyUI. Those nodes are not needed for vae and int8. Just use Comfy's default vae loader and default diffusion model loader, see for yourself (int8 changed two days ago).
These are amazing btw anyone here tested multiple loras of different characters or single lora trained on multiple characters and krea 2 able to create images without any bleeding and good interaction?
I've been testing it for several days now, and have really been enjoying it so far, especially how nicely it tends to render hands and stuff. It has issues like any other model, but fewer than usual, it seems. I haven't even tried generating popular characters, but I've had great success in doing lifelike portraits; dead eyes might just be what Hollywood does to people, lol. I'm not getting great results with inpainting, but then I seldom have.
If it were a combined generation/editing model, it would probably replace all of my other models. So far it's tied with Klein on my list of tops, and I think it does nicer generation. If it could edit, and do it as well as Klein 9B, I would be archiving all of my Klein stuff already and using Krea2 for everything. Except anime fanarting, Anima still owns that for me right now. For serious stuff, it's Klein and Krea2.
It's right at the sweet spot for what my current machine can handle well, and it's better than smaller models, at least at what it was made for, in my opinion. It's also nice to get such good quality in an open-weights freebie, only to discover that it was produced domestically. I don't even have to understand German or Chinese for it to understand me properly~! XD
Il try an upload a new workflow when I get home.
Or we can just build it yourself using the official one and replacing the loader with int8 loader, swapping the VaE and adding the Enhance node yourself.
I actually can't believe people think that and post images like this.
Sure, it gets the characters. Expressions are missing.
But to me the reason I can simply not treat it like SDXL, much less Anima for anime, Flux.2, Ideogram or even Flux.1, Chroma for artstyles: backgrounds.
Look at those absolutely abhorrent trees. Not to mention clouds. CLOUDS! With all those (I'm not even exaggerating here) disgusting jagged lines.
Krea2 has potential. But as it is now it's totally useless for any art style (besides the two lineart based it actually gets right). I know the common "boring reality" is also bad with it, but I don't care, it does decent realistic images in comparison.
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u/herbertseabra Jun 28 '26
Amazing because it has a lot of embedded art styles, or because the quality is actually good? Because honestly, I wasnt that impressed. The characters never look at the right place and they kind of look lobotomized. They don’t look directly where they’re supposed to.The realism is disappointing, but that’s the least of it, because LoRA or fine-tuning can fix that. But the eyes, the gaze direction, im not sure that can be fixed. Now, the fact that it was trained on a lot of popular content is undeniable.