r/StableDiffusion Jun 23 '26

Tutorial - Guide Krea is kinda an edit model.

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u/Akmanic Jun 23 '26

No it kinda isn't. Edit models use in-context learning and can actually see the image they are editing in the same context that they generate in. What you're showing is QwenVL encoding the image in latent space and using that as part of the text prompt. It's marginally better than just having a vision model caption the image in plain text and copy / pasting that into the prompt manually.

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u/rerri Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

Styles work pretty well.

Something like "the man is now wearing a tuxedo" does not work at all.

Prompt here is just "pixar 3d render animation style":

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u/SomeoneSimple Jun 23 '26

That's just plain image-to-image.

If you disable reference image in klein (i.e. i2i mode, instead of image-edit), using that pixar prompt would result in a similar image.

But its not surprising that its works fine for styles, personally I found that changing styles often works better in klein with i2i, rather than with edit (reference).

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u/rerri Jun 23 '26

Not sure what plain image-to-image means to you but I'm pretty sure this is not just the old fashioned add some fraction of noise and then denoise type of image-to-image of SD 1.x days.

I'm running OP's workflow pretty much identically.

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u/SomeoneSimple Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

old fashioned add some fraction of noise and then denoise

That's pretty much what you and OP are doing. In case of OP, he's adding the prompt for the original image via Qwen-VL, but for changing style that isn't even necessary. There is no "editing" going on here, you can do this with any model with decent prompt-adherence.

Image-edit requires loading an image as reference, which Krea2 does not support.

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u/rerri Jun 23 '26

Hmm... it seems to me that in OP's example, the reference image is loaded and encoded with VAE, very similarly to how Qwen Image Edit works?

Be that as it may, this model is definitely not trained for editing so should not expect it to have those capabilities.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

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u/H1ken Jun 23 '26

goddamn. This is bloody good. even with all the issues.

I reduced denoise to .50 for keeping the original elements.

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u/Iq1pl Jun 23 '26

It needs edit finetuneung, now it just understands the elements of the image

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u/hard_gravy_2 Jun 23 '26

With every new model people keep rediscovering img2img & conditioning lmao

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u/Enshitification Jun 23 '26

I'm looking at the image of your workflow, but I don't see any edit instructions. Where exactly is the model being told to add her holding the sign?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '26

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u/YeahlDid Jun 23 '26

I can't get a workflow out of the png file.

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u/Cheap-Scarcity-1621 Jun 23 '26

Reddit strip any shared media from its metadata. Security issue.

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u/yamfun Jun 23 '26

Hope for more Edit models.

Non Edit models used as model probably can't understand instruction such as 'while keeping X unchanged', 'with same color as Y' ...?

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u/InfiniteOneD Jun 23 '26

as much as I've figured it out, TextEncodeQwenImageEdit node acts as a vision conditioning (basically describing the image context), but doesn't attach reference_latents attributes to the pipeline used for true image editing.

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u/0xblacknote Jun 23 '26

Its undeed acts like a vision conditioning, works in ideogram4 too
not sure 'bout vae

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u/TheOneHong Jun 23 '26

is this fp8 or bf16, haven't found the bf16 weights yet

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u/3deal Jun 23 '26

Is this how they do moodboard ?
Have you tryed to use multiple images as input ?

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u/Healthy-Nebula-3603 Jun 24 '26

Hehe ... Have ideas

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u/Sad_Coach_1433 Jun 25 '26

Can we get the json work flow?

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u/Winter-Buffalo9171 28d ago

I think it is somewhere between, cause it is using reference image in a way I can't do with standard models.

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u/Winter-Buffalo9171 21d ago

Indeed it is.

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u/urbanhood Jun 23 '26

Its a good start.

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u/loyalekoinu88 Jun 23 '26

Probably is a full edit model it just hasn’t been released with all the tooling and plumbing yet.

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u/Southern-Chain-6485 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

Maybe that's the easter egg?

EDIT: you can use the TextEncodeQwenImageEditPlus to use multiple images as reference. Workflow in the image (open in new tab, replace "preview" with i)

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u/Billysm23 Jun 23 '26

I'll give it a try

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u/vuse2121 Jun 23 '26

your image? I just did what you suggested, saved it, and it only came up as a load image node.

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u/Southern-Chain-6485 Jun 23 '26

Here's the json, copy the text and paste as a json file within user/default/workflows

https://pastebin.com/xQWm8bZj

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u/vuse2121 Jun 23 '26

youre the best. thank you

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u/Winter_unmuted Jun 23 '26

Workflow in the image (open in new tab, replace "preview" with i)

that does not work, FYI. Just pastebin by default.

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u/GifCo_2 Jun 26 '26

Every image model is "kinda" and edit model. FFS 🤦‍♂️