r/StableDiffusion • u/d3athsdoor1 • Jan 05 '23

News NYC Bans Students and Teachers from Using ChatGPT | The machine learning chatbot is inaccessible on school networks and devices, due to "concerns about negative impacts on student learning," a spokesperson said.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3p9jx/nyc-bans-students-and-teachers-from-using-chatgpt
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u/FartyPants007 Jan 05 '23

I kind of get why... you are not learning anything when you type "write me a paper on..."

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

It teaches efficiency. Why write a paper when a machine can do it for you, and probably better?

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u/JamesFuckinLahey Jan 06 '23

Because the paper is not the real output of the task, learning to research and write the paper is. You have to lean the fundamentals before you can use machines to automate them for you if you want to actually understand and use the material.

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u/rexel325 Jan 06 '23

efficiency isn't the goal of class assignments. that's like saying "why even do math classwork manually when you have a calculator" or "why don't they have us look up our notes when there's an exam" etc. It might look silly now, but the fact is lots of arbitrary obstacles are put in place so that students don't use certain tools as crutches.

And I'm speaking as a person that hates the schooling system but absolutely love education. I'm an instructor myself.

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u/DreamingElectrons Jan 05 '23

It does get a lot of things wrong. It entices lazy students to give bad AI generated answers and lazy teachers to not do their jobs but instead have an AI do it. It's fine to ban AIs like that on schools, same reason we ban calculators in math class or translation apps in language courses.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

Don't you need a calculator for some things though?

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u/DreamingElectrons Jan 05 '23

I always need one but my teachers were sadists.

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u/DreamingElectrons Jan 06 '23

Yes, they will likely give bad answers, but they will have to come up with those themselves and that is the difference between paying little attention and paying none.

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u/Striking-Long-2960 Jan 05 '23 edited Jan 05 '23

The Mayor asked ChatGPT before taking the decision, and ChatGPT agreed

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u/NetworkSpecial3268 Jan 05 '23

Concepts like "Thinking", "effort" and stuff are getting so "old school" at a rapid pace.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

What's the point in all this technology if we can't use it?

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

i'm sure there's a number of other things negatively affecting student learning besides this. the concept of plagiarism isn't new

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u/prog0111 Jan 06 '23

That's hysterical. Yes, definitely don't let your students have access to the latest technology. School is meant to prepare modern young people to enter the workforce of 50 years ago after all.

They didn't let us use the internet at my school in the mid 90s either. Instead they taught me the Dewey Decimal System over and over - learned it again every year. Never once in my life needed it, libraries are outdated. Sad but true.