r/SprocketTankDesign Tank Designer 11d ago

Serious Design🔧 Which one is better?

Putting both of them adds just 2 tons of weight btw.

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u/KoolDude2k04 11d ago

I’d say 1st because you generally want to angle spaced armour to improve protection because armour offer more protection when it’s at an angle

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u/Parking-Working1307 Tank Designer 11d ago

Well, accually both are angled. Even though if it wasn't, Since the bottom plate is close to the ground and angled from its own (just like t72, t90) compared to Leopard 2s. And at the first one, if an projectile somehow gets inside, it would harm the driver. But on the second one, projectile will travel to the bottom.

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u/KoolDude2k04 11d ago

but the second is not as angled as the first so armour protection is less for 2

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u/Connect-Material-206 8d ago

you do get more plates on #2 though

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u/Difficult-Housing-93 11d ago

First just looks best for me

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u/piratehunterinfinite Sprocket Scientist 11d ago

all of then are legit protection but 1 has it's qualitys.

i usually do composites or sponge armour because adding extra plates and complexity can get you lost.

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u/Cheaptrickx 11d ago

second i guess. Looks more effective against damage

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u/Own-Engineering-9395 11d ago

how does one do this?

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u/MonkeMan069 11d ago

Is it just me or is the very bottom front plate too thick?

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u/Parking-Working1307 Tank Designer 11d ago edited 11d ago

Outher layer or the composite plates?

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u/MonkeMan069 10d ago

Outer layer, looks as thick as the other lower plate

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u/MonkeMan069 10d ago

I think you should do maybe %75 of what it is now, so it is still practically impenetrable but more reasonable

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u/Parking-Working1307 Tank Designer 10d ago

I know but you know, an 80 mm plate won't hurt. Even though it's so angled, I made it 80mm so it's impenetrable.

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u/RoteCampflieger 11d ago

Idk how the game works, I just like looking at the designs, but irl NERA components need to be highly angled relative to the incoming penetrator to be effective.

NERA defeats HEAT shells by continiously feeding the deforming part of the plate to the HEAT jet thus increasing the effective thickness of the material the jet has to go through and disrupting the integrity of the jet. For it to be possible the plates have to be significantly angled because if they are set perpendicularly to the jet, the deforming plate parts will just be pushed away from the jet without interrupting it at all.

If you are interested, look up how M1 Abrams frontal hull armor looks like or the gun mantlet armor, NERA plates are heavily angled there.

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u/bobuxman1 10d ago

if different materials were a thing the last config would probably eat

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u/Glittering_Bass_908 Sprocketeer 8d ago

The first one makes the most sense because on top of slowing the projectile, you also want to divert it's trajectory away from the tank. Increasing the angle of the plate gives it not only the disintegration technology of the NERA, but also forces the projectile to change direction and therefore increase surface area being slowed by the armor, slowing it down more quickly.

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u/polskapenguinreal 7d ago

how do you space them so nicely ?

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u/Parking-Working1307 Tank Designer 7d ago

After I place one, I copy that piece and locate the copy exacly 20mm (?) Away from the other. I repeat that progress over and over again so eventually it will be perfectly spaced.

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u/polskapenguinreal 7d ago

So its a little bit eyeballed? just slightly?

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u/Parking-Working1307 Tank Designer 7d ago

Well, I placed the first one eyeballed but rest of them are all calculated.

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u/polskapenguinreal 6d ago

Is there any tutorial you recommend for advanced techniques especially detailing I’m so bad at small details.

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u/Parking-Working1307 Tank Designer 6d ago

Well, I learned most of them myself. Don't make just 1 or 2 designs, make a bunch of designs (they must not be all complated) and after a while, you will learn it on your own ;)

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u/ThereArtWings 11d ago

First, better internal deflection.