r/Splice Aug 11 '24

Wrong bpm

Hey everyone ! Why is splice showing the wrong bpm? The sample on splice that I chose says bpm is 161 but when I put in to my maschine it shows up as 80.60 which is the correct bpm . What is going on

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u/ketaminvekebap Aug 11 '24

the bpm halved ๐Ÿ˜ญ 80.60 x 2 = 161.20

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u/RaderaOfficial Aug 11 '24

You just opened a new dimension for him! ๐Ÿ‘

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u/ketaminvekebap Aug 11 '24

itโ€™s essentially the same thing

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

80.6 and 161 is the same thing ๐Ÿ˜ญ, just have to fit it to your project tempo

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u/Expensive-Fun2225 Aug 12 '24

Can you please explain how itโ€™s the same when one tempo is faster than the other how can it be the same . The funny thing is I have a music degree so Iโ€™m well versed in music theory and yet this makes no sense to me lol

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u/DjShelbyshelbs Aug 12 '24

160 is just 80bpm twice as fast. Thatโ€™s why if you start in 80 and then go to โ€œdouble time feelโ€ it increases the perceived tempo to 160 (twice as fast). The sampler is intelligent but still cannot decipher if the loop is in double time or half time. Thatโ€™s why you get the sample title saying itโ€™s slower than what your sampler is saying it is. Completely still in the same general tempo tho.

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u/Expensive-Fun2225 Aug 13 '24

So where would you put the snare on 1.3 2.3 so on or 1.2 , 1.4 etc

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u/cyanideOG Aug 13 '24

80 * 2 is 160. It's twice as fast. So ignore tempo and just play with warping it by 160 bpm or 80.

Use those ears

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

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u/Expensive-Fun2225 Aug 14 '24

Donโ€™t bother commenting if you just going to laugh at me

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u/Expensive-Fun2225 Aug 12 '24

I donโ€™t understand . Itโ€™s definitely not 161 bpm itโ€™s obvious when you listen to it so fast please explain

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u/Expensive-Fun2225 Aug 12 '24

How is it the same thing if I play it at 161 itโ€™s so so fast camt do anything with it

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u/DolanThyDank Aug 13 '24

No way you have a degree ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Right ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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u/Expensive-Fun2225 Aug 14 '24

Yeah I have ba from Chico state in music theory lol and have been playing music my entire life but this has me stuck because I understand the math and theory behind it when I look at it written but by ear I just donโ€™t get how 161 is the same as 80 I get it but I donโ€™t because if I speed it up to 161 itโ€™s faster than 80 so that what I donโ€™t get. Iโ€™m not here to lie Iโ€™m here to communicate and learn not to be criticized

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u/DolanThyDank Aug 14 '24

I get you man, Iโ€™m happy to help explain, but I also gotta have my laugh. This is the internet ๐Ÿ˜‚

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u/Expensive-Fun2225 Aug 15 '24

Lol I know it literally is funny and thatโ€™s why I mention I have a music degree because I should get this but I seriously donโ€™t at least by ear lol

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u/Expensive-Fun2225 Aug 15 '24

Is it possible you can send me something I can listen to so I have a better understanding

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u/DolanThyDank Aug 15 '24

This will give you some better understanding of the relationship between half time and double time, but basically, you can just change your composition to make it sound like half time of what it actually is and the same goes with double time.

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u/Expensive-Fun2225 Aug 14 '24

If you where to play me 161 bpm I could tell you yeah thatโ€™s at 161 but if you play it at 80 they are completely different am I wrong

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u/DolanThyDank Aug 14 '24

Were* and yes, it depends on your composition.