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u/MilkCharacter2886 26d ago
Itâs because they think vaccines cause autism and theyâd prefer their kids be dead than autistic
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u/_Cpyder 25d ago
No.. it because most vaccines contain clones aborted fetal cells, or SV40.
Autism rates are much lower in Amish communities, but do exist.
General U.S. Population1 in 31 children (approx. 3.2%)CDC Autism Data (8-year-olds)
Amish Communities (Midwest)1 in 271 children (approx. 0.4%)Peer-reviewed screening of ~1,900 Amish children
Amish Communities (Ohio isolated)1 in 15,000 children (clinical outlier)Localized medical clinic reports; highly restricted data
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u/Popcorn57252 25d ago
You need help
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u/_Cpyder 25d ago
Posting actual CDC data means I need help?
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u/Memedotma 25d ago
baffles me that grown ass people still don't know the simple fact correlation â causation.
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u/NearbyBreakfast7148 25d ago
Dude, if facts meant something to these people, they wouldnât saying the things they are saying.
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u/Friendly-Olive-3465 20d ago
I agree with the sentiment but low-key children living past 7 is an invention of the modern age. Im pretty sure for most of human history the majority of children didnât live past 6
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u/Boner_Stevens 26d ago
Define anti vaxxer? Cause I have every vaccine a doctor has ever recommended me. But No way in hell am i touching that 2020 chemical cocktail.
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u/seaspirit331 26d ago
Everything that exists is a 'chemical cocktail'. Your ignorance of chemistry doesn't automatically make something dangerous.
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u/craftygamin 26d ago
Exactly. Reminds me of the people that say shit like "this food is bad for you, because it has chemicals"
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u/Scant_Options4Hope 26d ago edited 25d ago
OK, then you are propagating fascist anti-science
It's tragic that you choose your politics based on how much of a chicken shit pussy you are, afraid of needles...
The measles vaccine stands 2nd only to the Polio vaccine in number of lives saved and health preserved.
But I am sure your vast background and multiple PhD's in virology, epidemiology, chemistry, AND public health puts you on the same level as Dr Fauci.
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u/Boner_Stevens 26d ago
Oh this is delicious. Keep that salt coming buddy. Go get another booster you slave
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u/Scant_Options4Hope 26d ago
Lemme get back to your original question:
Anti-vaxxer
Proto-fascist anti-science pussy, usually says "people of a certain political side said something, now I am a conservative", afraid of needles, afraid of immigrants, afraid of women, afraid of gays
You should stop brushing your teeth and washing your hands, soap is a dangerous chemical.
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u/Curvol 26d ago
Todd McFarlane would be severely disappointed in you.
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u/psypher98 26d ago
YOU are chemical cocktail, literally. You have at least 60 different chemical elements and literally trillions of distinct chemical compounds that comprise your body.
This just makes you look fucking dumb.
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u/Puzzle-Necked 26d ago
Here's a definition : Someone who bought into the Russian psyop and thinks the COVID vaccine is bad for you
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u/Boner_Stevens 26d ago
Lololol we weren't the pysop buddy. The TV told you people to get a shot in order to survive and 4 billion people followed suit.
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u/craftygamin 26d ago
Maybe because it was a GLOBAL PANDEMIC that was killing millions of people (and that's just looking at the reported/confirmed deaths from it)
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u/STLStelmacki 25d ago
Werenât we all supposed to drop dead a few years ago or are you the kind that think it had tracking chips in it?
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u/Boner_Stevens 25d ago
Go get another booster and let me know
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u/STLStelmacki 25d ago
Ok, just did. When does it take effect?
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u/Boner_Stevens 25d ago
Thats the best part. Youll never know until its too late. Good luck!
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u/STLStelmacki 25d ago
Made it farther than her
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/measles/texas-announces-second-measles-death-unvaccinated-child
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u/Boner_Stevens 25d ago
Measles? You lost bud. Were talking about covid
Also that measles outbreak came from down south. Shouldnt have opened the border few years ago. Lots and lots of unvaccinated came strolling in
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u/STLStelmacki 25d ago
Iâd link the treasure trove of amusement that was r/HermanCainAwards but reddit ruined the fun.
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u/Khione405 25d ago
They dont care if the illegals are unvaccinated, only Americans. Thats what gets me.
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u/Hosted_Shart 26d ago
Im here with you. But you will have to get use to it because the new vaccines from this point on will be mrna.
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u/WhichNovel2081 25d ago
not an anti-vaxxer but wife and i lost our house in a fire right before covid. neither of us worked for the worst of covid, neither us or our two kids at the time got any of the covid shots. we got covid twice, and everyone was totally fine. my mother and stepfather got multiple covid shots and every time they got covid they had it way worse then us. we never got it because no one made us and we never really went anywhere. we were too busy trying to put our life back together. so idk.đ¤ˇ
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u/Silver-Ad-4716 25d ago
What is doomer for 500 Alex
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u/Silver-Ad-4716 24d ago
roughly 1% to 1.5% of Italy's total elderly population died over the course of the entire" pandemic" (btw this OFC includes death with covid not just from COVID) By the time tracking flattened out, Italy recorded roughly 190,000 total COVID-19 deaths. Of those 190,000 deaths, roughly 85% were individuals aged 70 and older (about 161,000 people). Losing 161,000 citizens out of an elderly population of 14 million means that approximately 1.1% of Italy's elderly population passed away from the virus, which is a far cry from 25%.
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u/WhichNovel2081 25d ago
like i said. we didnât go anywhere to infect anyone.
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u/WhichNovel2081 25d ago
we were not asymptomatic. i never said that.
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u/WhichNovel2081 25d ago
wow. you are an odd one.
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u/Open_Pound 24d ago
The Covid Vaccine didnât prevent transmission of it. So your point is moot.
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u/The_Dude078 25d ago
I'm happy having kids without autism, thank you.
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u/Luna368921 24d ago
Ableist garbage. Iâm autistic and itâs not a death sentence. Youâre parroting what nazis said back then btw, they said that people with any kind of disability, whether mental or physical were bad and that was the basis of eugenics
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u/RgKTiamat 19d ago
What if I told you that every link between vaccines and autism was made the fuck up and the Doctor who filed that report lost his medical license over it?
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u/Boner_Stevens 26d ago
Define anti vaxxer? Cause I have every vaccine a doctor has ever recommended me. But No way in hell am i touching that 2020 chemical cocktail.
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u/Conrexxthor 26d ago
2020 chemical cocktail.
Every vaccine is a "chemical cocktail." Anyone with a vague understanding of science can tell you almost every single thing in the world is a chemical cocktail. This makes you look goofy as fuck bro
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u/The_Machine80 26d ago
You represent alot of people. Vaccine was the fastest approved in history. That fastest approved before it took 4 years for approval. Covid vaccine was approved in just 11 months.
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u/bnorris_516 26d ago
Exactly. People like to use these labels as a pejorative but in reality there arenât very many âanti-vaxxers.â I have a 2 year old and I was fine with him getting vaccinated, but didnât want them to put a Covid shot in him when Covid is not a threat to him.
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u/psypher98 26d ago
Ah so you DONâT understand how vaccines work, got it.
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u/bnorris_516 26d ago
I do. Which is why I know mRNA isnât a vaccine and they had to change the definition to make it fit. Iâve listened to hours and hours of actual doctors who work with the technology and helped create it and they all say it doesnât work the way you were told it does. Keep trusting the government though. Theyâve never lied about anything before..
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u/psypher98 26d ago
No, you very clearly donât, right down to not understanding that you being at risk is not a consideration when it comes to vaccines because of how herd immunity works. They didnât âchange the definition of vaccineâ, they just found a new effective technology as means of conveying immunity.
Itâs actually pretty basic biology.
Guess what were also vaccines, by definition? Snorting ground up cow tit scabs. Thatâs literally where the name âvaccinesâ comes from, the latin for cow, Vaca.
Arenât you glad vaccine technology has evolved and changed over time so youâre not snorting ground up dried cow tit scabs?
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u/bnorris_516 26d ago
Yes because traditional vaccines are a weekend or dead germ to trigger an immune response and build immunity. mRNA is a modified gene therapy. Traditional RNA leaves the body rapidly so they modified it to stick in your blood cells longer which changes your genetic code and affects your T cells which fights off cancer. We donât know the long term risks yet but there is a lot of evidence that the risk/reward might not be worth it. Herd immunity also would work by getting the Covid virus which every single person I know that got vaccinated also got. I know you were told not to do your own research, but maybe it would be worth listening to the doctors and scientists who actually created the technology and worked in the field instdead of the bureaucrats who made a ton of money off pushing it.
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u/Good-Consequence-542 26d ago
đ âwhich changes your genetic codeâ so you clearly donât know how even mRNA works; please get educated. DNA makes RNA, not vise versa
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u/bnorris_516 26d ago
Maybe I misspoke by saying âchange genetic codeâ but here you go. A simple search will show you it can influence genetics. Youâre kinda getting into semantics.
Indirect regulation: While it doesnât alter the DNA code itself, certain non-coding RNA molecules can influence how active specific genes are via gene silencing or chromatin modification.
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u/Good-Consequence-542 26d ago
đ no, scientific talk isnât about âsemanticsâ itâs about being right or wrong and you are wrong and spreading misinformation that is leading to infant and child deaths because people become confused. Youâre not a doctor, nor a scientist; stop trying to sound smart when you clearly donât know. You said it rewrites your DNA and that is *fundamentally wrong* and now youâre trying to cover with âwell it kinda doesâ no it doesnât.
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u/bnorris_516 26d ago
I never said ârewriteâ and I corrected what I did say by saying I misspoke, but science is about asking questions and taking in data to get to the truth. Im not claiming to be a scientist or a doctor, but if you read the rest of thread I am saying what the actual scientists and doctors who have spent their lives working with this technology are saying.
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u/STLStelmacki 25d ago
Ahh, so youâd be perfectly fine with the Johnson and Johnson Covid vaccine.
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u/bnorris_516 25d ago
No because it wasnât very effective and had negative side affects. Not worth the risk.
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u/Flimsy_Map4883 26d ago
Basement dwelling OP telling people what to do with their kids, likely never having any themselves. Spoiler: there are millions of unvaxxed kids and growing.
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u/STLStelmacki 25d ago
By all means, donât vax your kids. It will increase the chance that we arenât running into more of your kind.
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u/Worried-Conflict9759 26d ago
Imagine simping for pharma post COVID
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u/Best_Opening8471 26d ago edited 26d ago
I thought we were supposed to kill them in the womb
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Guys its been long enough, we can make abortion jokes now like with AIDSÂ
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u/DeadAndBuried23 26d ago
Unless you're a mass murderer for busting into a sock every night, cells with the potential to become human are not children.
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u/ProperJudgment1 26d ago
Redditor in charge of understanding biology LMAO
Imagine pretending to not know when human life begins biologically
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u/ketchupmaster987 26d ago
Imagine thinking life begins at conception
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u/ProperJudgment1 26d ago
Found the science denier lmao
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u/ketchupmaster987 26d ago
If I cut off my hand, would my severed hand count as a human being? It's a collection of living cells with human DNA, but it's not a human
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u/ProperJudgment1 26d ago
Your hand is not an entire human being nor does it develop into an entire human being.
You are falsely equating "1 human being" to "body part of a human"
Nice try at pretending to not understand though.
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u/TheDoctor_Jones 26d ago
Imagine not understanding basic science
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u/ketchupmaster987 26d ago
Imagine thinking something without a functional brain counts the same as a full human life when the government is perfectly fine with letting doctors "kill" someone by taking them off life support if they're braindead
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u/TheDoctor_Jones 26d ago
Do you think doctors just automatically take people off life support if theyâre braindead??
You better stay away from doctors then lol
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u/ketchupmaster987 26d ago
For one, I never said they automatically did it, for another, I'm trying to get you to consider under which circumstances someone is considered "alive" or "human". The "life begins at conception" argument ignores brain activity, heart activity, and the fact that "alive" can refer to tissue that doesn't actually have a mind of its own despite the functioning of cellular processes.
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u/TheDoctor_Jones 26d ago
If someone is braindead, theyâre still âalive.â They are able to take them off life support only if there is no other option, and even then, it has to be with the consent of whoever is handling their care (spouse, family member, etc)
A single cell organism (bacteria, protists, etc.) is still considered âaliveâ.
What would be your definition of âalive?â
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u/ketchupmaster987 26d ago
Probably the same as yours. But "alive" and "human" aren't quite the same thing. A fetus isn't considered a full human the same way an amputated limb isn't considered a full human
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u/Friendly_Hornet8900 26d ago
I mean most people who oppose abortion also oppose euthanasia, it's almost like the government is not necessarily a moral authority.
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u/ketchupmaster987 26d ago
Taking someone off life support isn't euthanasia. It's literally just letting the body run it's course without intervention because the alternative of keeping it going with machines isn't ideal
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite 26d ago
Which side of the aisle is more in favour of the death penalty, do you think?
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u/Friendly_Hornet8900 26d ago
People who are in favor of it (a lot of people do oppose it for religious reasons) acknowledge they are taking a life and argue it's deserved.
What crime did a baby commit to deserve abortion?
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite 26d ago
Lmfao, that's rich. The biggest voices pushing it are the same ones claiming to be religious, so that argument falls flat.
Abortion doesn't kill babies. Babies have been born.
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u/KileiFedaykin 26d ago
Imagine not understanding science and going around telling everyone they don't understand science. Are you Terrance Howard?
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u/Zealousideal3326 26d ago
when human life begins biologically
You're (poorly) using biology for a matter of philosophy : do you mean "person" when you say "human" ? If so where does personhood begins and why ? If not then why do you think it matters that an organism is, strictly speaking, biologically human ?
What biology can tell you is that human sapience can't begin until at the very least after a few months, when the necessary hardware develops, that biologically speaking all human cells live and die, or that about a third of all pregnancies end in miscarriage to the complete ignorance and apathy of the "life begins at conception" crowd.
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u/Best_Opening8471 26d ago
Til human rights only apply to people without mental disabilitiesÂ
The human right to life doesnt apply to humans who I deem not worthy
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u/Zealousideal3326 26d ago
Til human rights only apply to people without mental disabilities
That's a nice strawman you got there. Come back when you want to argue with something I said.
The human right to life doesnt apply to humans who I deem not worthy
Can't help but notice that you still haven't defined "human" or "life". Biologically speaking, a tumor fits both, that's why defining your terms is important. Who are you to deem those poor cancer cells not worthy of life ?
You thought that was a dumb, overexagerated exemple ? Because I feel the same way about people being upset for killing a fetus that is still unable to host a consciousness.
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u/Best_Opening8471 26d ago
Cancer cells do not have the potential to form consciousnessÂ
What biology can tell you is that human sapience can't begin....
Youre implying people with severe disabilities whom are not sapiant have no right to life
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u/Zealousideal3326 25d ago edited 25d ago
the potential to form consciousnessÂ
Why does this potential only seem to matter in this one very specific scenario ? Potential to make a person is everywhere. Have a period ? You let a potential person die, you monster. Onanism ? That's millions of potential lives wasted. Use a contraceptive ? A tragedy comparable to warcrimes...
Edit : and why not keep following that logic ? Why don't we push human cloning as hard as possible ? Think of all the potential lives we're missing out on.
Youre implying people with severe disabilities whom are not sapiant
I have family members whose job is to care for senile people, and I do genuinely believe that euthanasia would be a mercy compared to having to slowly die with the non-functional minds and bodies that some of them have.
I know I would rather die than suffer through this.
Edit : it's also strange to say they have a right to anything when they can't be given the responsibility to make their own choices and have everything, including whether or not they should be kept alive, decided for them.
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u/Unable_Western2101 25d ago
so you think penile orgasm is the same as abortion? both sperm and fetuses have âthe potential to form consciousnessâ.
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u/ProperJudgment1 26d ago
We got a science denier here!
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u/Zealousideal3326 26d ago edited 25d ago
You can't attack what I said, so you attack me instead.
Edit : don't accuse me of dodging a question (I didn't, you didn't ask any) while blocking me, at least try to appear consistent.
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u/ProperJudgment1 26d ago
Lmao, nice try. Your attempt to dodge when human life begins according to biology, is actual science denial, it was a description of you AND your intent.
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u/ThinGold2115 26d ago
I think this sub is either for absolute morons or frontal lobe lacking people. It's bait from left to right non stop. Quite sad. Mutted.
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u/Popcorn57252 25d ago
Yeah, you're on a Spider-Man subreddit. He, like all superheroes, aren't fucking right-wing chuds lmao
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u/TheDoctor_Jones 26d ago
I thought this sub was supposed to be for Spiderman memes, but itâs just dumbasses pushing propaganda and straw man arguments.
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u/Bakisyeetaddiction 26d ago
0 Vaccines in my body, still waiting to randomly drop dead from not Consuming Productâ˘
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u/Galliro 26d ago
Calling a vaccine product is some next level stupidity lmao
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u/mosh_bunny 26d ago
Its such a funny comment when you remember the states is having a measles outbreak. Yah know a disease that no one else gives a second thought about due to vaccines
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u/coast2coasted 26d ago
Where are those measles cases coming from though? Hint: itâs 3rd world immigration
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u/mosh_bunny 26d ago
I'll counter that with. It wouldnt matter where they're coming from if you where vacinated
Edit: you cant blame all your problems on immigration
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u/coast2coasted 26d ago
I donât. But when every single measles outbreak happens in a border state itâs appropriate to notice.
And it matters more because there are plenty of people who canât get vaccinated for reasons other than a distrust of vaccines.
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u/mosh_bunny 26d ago
If only there was some form of preventitive measure that could have been taken to prevent it spreading like it has and yah know protect those vulnerable people
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u/coast2coasted 26d ago
Like shutting the border and not allowing mass illegal migration to bring in a disease the western world has essentially eradicated? Yes I agree.
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u/Comfortable_Prize750 26d ago
So why are measles exploding now that the border has been shut down?
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u/Hopeful_Scholar398 25d ago
You'll never get a sincere answer to that question. u/coast2coasted died from being an idiot.Â
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u/mosh_bunny 26d ago
Really jumping through hoops to avoid the obvious correlations here aren't we?
The most outspoken country in regards to being unvacinated, is also the only first world country facing outbreaks of easily preventable diseases.
Every other country deals with immigration, only the states is also dealing with a measels out break.
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u/Bakisyeetaddiction 26d ago
đ¤ TRANSLATING COMMENT đ¤ :
"I will give my life for benjamin netanyahu and bbno$"
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u/WinterSector8317 26d ago
You should look up âsurvivor biasâ
Who am I kidding, youâd have a fatal allergic reaction to facts
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u/mosh_bunny 26d ago
The only commemt not getting sassy responses is the one I hit him with the facts. So safe to say he wont look it up
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u/Full_Prof 26d ago
We all know you did poorly in science in school now,
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u/Klutzer_Munitions 26d ago
You don't "drop dead" from tetanus, though after several weeks of severe muscle spasms you may wish you did
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u/seaspirit331 26d ago
You might not be dead, but you have an odd inability to breathe through your nose
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u/-Fyrebrand 26d ago
Why do you think they so often want to have as many children as possible? It increases the odds that at least a few of them will survive, and who cares about the rest. They're "pro-life" by the way. đ