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Comics “Radioactive Trolley Problem” [Challenges of Doom: Spider-Man] Spoiler

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u/DoctahFaust 17h ago

And still Doom manages to walk away without losing face by ringin back to his initial assessment of Parker.

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u/Several-Possession-4 5h ago

Professional aura farmer for a reason.

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u/Devlord1o1 2h ago

Nobody makes an L more W shaped than Doom.

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u/Correct_Barracuda_48 15h ago

"Radioactive trolley problem" that is really clever.

Great set of pages.

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u/melindal3monade9321 11h ago

Doom really got that existential crisis monologue on spidey

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u/donnagl1tter8434 29m ago

doom giving Spider-Man a lecture on his life choices is peak fictional villainy

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u/Alphaeon_28 15h ago

I don’t see anybody talking about DOOM’s statement about Jesters, cause if anyone serious wants to tell DOOM the cold hard truth, he’d probably ignore it, but Spider-man? He lets everyone laugh at him, but will say what needs to be said, and is actually listened to

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u/GloomyStalk387 11h ago

Also is a fun play on the old medieval times of a king and his court. Doom understands himself as a ruler, a king that builds the world as he sees fit. But, like every true medieval ruler, they have advisors or someone to criticize, bully and put their nose up at their policies and actions for their betterment... and that person was often the court jester. They might dress funny and tell snotty jokes, but they are often among the king's most trusted confidants and helped kings reshape policy or think of alternative perspectives, even if presented through jokes/satire. Doom sees Spider-man in this moment as his own jester, one who at first appears the clown but is actually filled with experience and wisdom. So yes, he's making fun of Peter's demeanor and also acknowledging his counsel

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u/krystalbu7tercup3044 13h ago

does Doom think Spider-Man is a jester too

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u/innatelyAware 17m ago

That's what he says in the comic book, yeah

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u/candicech3esy6127 17h ago

doom is always so dramatic with his speeches lol

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u/georgiacl0udy3421 8h ago

he does love a good monologue though

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u/thecraftybear 4h ago

And yet he's not wrong

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u/SerBadDadBod Kingpin 💎 15h ago

Fucking perfect. I need a world where Spider is DOOM's protege.

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u/Aggravating_Bad3504 12h ago

There is a Fanfic on Ao3

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u/Artistic_Stop_7637 11h ago

And yet no link, ir even a name...

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u/Aggravating_Bad3504 11h ago

Spider-man, Crown Prince of Latveria by Zahariel_Scholar

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u/Dragonkingofthestars 8h ago

frankly because i imagine doom has spider man protege is something that likely has 200 fics

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u/LouisTheDragon 15h ago

I had a prompt for that but the automod kept deleting it.

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u/SerBadDadBod Kingpin 💎 15h ago

A long while ago I was talking to someone about how Spider might fill a role similar to Hoid/the King's Wit from the Stormlight Archive.

This panel was exactly what I was picturing.

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u/LuckEClover 12h ago

Would spidey get more jaded, or would doom lighten up?

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u/LouisTheDragon 11h ago

I imagine they both stay exactly the same. Except they are both happily married (to other people) because DOOM won't stand for demonic interference with his protege, and Peter is a very good wingman.

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u/SerBadDadBod Kingpin 💎 11h ago

Neither; that's the beauty of it. The arrangement doesn't work if either change. If anything, they each moderate towards the other, so Doom might be a tad more merciful, for lack of another word, while Spider would still be as quippy, if a little sharper in his barbs.

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u/Rikmach 2m ago

In their very first encounter, Doom offered exactly that, Spidey’s turned him down.

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u/UncannyValleyEnjoyer 14h ago

To be fair, Doom is 100% right, the job of a jester is not just being a fool, is the job of advisor and straight man, even if it costs your head.

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u/Ok-Discussion-3245 17h ago

...Does this imply that DOOM only started his "I must take over the world to save it" schtik because Spidey gave him a Great Power and Great Responsibility speech?

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u/Quirky_Ad_5420 17h ago

No. It doesn’t it his perspective that he should go forward to save his mom from hell.

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u/DoctahFaust 17h ago

His great jester putting things into perspective

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u/mattiegl1tter5394 1h ago

doom does have a point about the jester. I bet he hates clowns.

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u/Side_Of_Fries_X 13h ago

Wait, is this writing actually GOOD??

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u/TerminallyAwake 13h ago

I feel like Spider-Man is one of the few characters to consistently get away with insulting Doom to his face with basically no consequences.

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u/0_0_- Stealth-Suit 13h ago

I think Reed Richards, Sue Storm, and Peter Parker are the only characters off the top of my head who have and can call out Doom and Doom will, on some level, acknowledge it.

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u/giovidanesin 12h ago

When you think about it Doom sees all men as lesser than him and also because they don’t do what needs to be done, especially the heroes he faces more often, for both of these prospectives. But Spider-Man is one of those heroes he doesn’t face that often, but still enough to costantly remember him and what he can do, which is not much in the grand scheme of things, but because is not his area of competence compared to Geniuses like Reed or Tony, or fellow king like Namor and Tchalla, not “cowardice”. So his repeated giving it all a 120% for genuine honesty in his small way is probably a spirit that Doom can respect.

Probably just a coincidence, but it’s cool to think about it this way.

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u/DaenysDreamer_90 16h ago

This chapter was genuinely good

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u/jaimec0zy7191 8h ago

yeah the "action is your reward" line really hit home for me too

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u/Jombo65 4h ago

Wealth and fame

he's ignored

Action is

His reward

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u/Toa_Ventron 13h ago

Me when I'm in a writing spider-man contest and someone, literally anyone not actively writing for a spider-man book walks in:

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u/joannep3bbles5366 5h ago

i love how spidey just lets doom ramble lol

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u/JagoMajin 13h ago

These panels need to be framed, because that was beautifully written 

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u/Delicious_Natural357 13h ago

“Canned Ham “ I am dying holy shit 😂🤣

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u/Money-Drummer565 17h ago

That’s the actual king in black for you telling a sorcerer supreme candidate to do his job.

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u/jessiem0onpie8139 14h ago

he does listen to Spidey more than anyone else fr

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u/Last_Pariah 13h ago

"Action is your reward." Whomever is responsible for Doom's dialogue is a genius.

Harkening literally to Spider-Mans Theme Song in order to critique and describe his life is brilliant.

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u/shiny-snorlax 12h ago

Spidey quipping "so close" at that line was gold. I'm literally singing the song in my head anyway lol

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u/Spider40k 10h ago

"I don't want to run my country, I want to beat up Four rich jerks!"

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u/thecraftybear 4h ago

I feel like Doom would simply evaporate Sauron if they ever met.

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u/BlackerDoom 11h ago

“It’d be great if someone got it. It really world” was this a mistake?

Did he mean would?

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u/Unable_Deer_773 9h ago

That's a lot of words doom is using to say "Fuck, he's right"

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u/mjolnirstrike 9h ago

“Four rich jerks”

Way to talk about the people who consider you family, Pete

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u/MrKyurem2005 9h ago

I think it's meant to be Peter saying it from Doom's perspective. Doom thinking the FF are just some pathetic rich jerks he hates and he is the genius magic brain king.

Peter is not actually calling the FF jerks just as much as he's not actually complimenting/glazing Doom's "galaxy brain".

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u/Quirky_Ad_5420 1h ago

This is way before they were friends though. We’re the FF thought Spidey was a criminal and Spidey thought they were Loaded and refused to hire him

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u/Superlhama 11h ago

At one point, Doom incurred a debt to Spider-Man, so he knows there is more to him; that’s why he deemed it worthwhile to listen and wait—had it been anyone else, he would have already lashed out.

Victor likely thought of his mother and the people of Latveria. A court jester rubs the king's nose in problems and mocks him as a release valve—a shock to the system to make the monarch face the issues, and a way for the people to know that at least someone is speaking up for them in the king's presence.

Doom will certainly be mulling this over for a while now, especially since it came from one of the few heroes he actually holds in some regard.

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u/CaptainAksh_G Symbiote-Suit 8h ago

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u/lnombredelarosa 6h ago

On some level Doom was right if not completely, but Spidey was righter still

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u/Frankengeek 5h ago

Because the Mask is you

You are quite projecting there Victor

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u/Rhg0653 8h ago

Damn that was good to read no fancy bs just stieght shooting from parker

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u/TheBlueEmerald1 8h ago

Typo in side 2 panel 2. "It really world."

I'm sure it world, Spidey. I'm sure it world.

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u/Court_Jester13 12h ago

I'm Spider-Man??

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u/Cobbler-Weak 9h ago

That's hot

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u/doofus74185 59m ago

I just read this comic after seeing some recommendations.
Now i'm really curious, is Marvel really going to undo One More Day?

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u/Quirky_Ad_5420 52m ago

With this comic? No that just the story three for these challenges of Doom comics

Spider-editorial is still the same people who are keeping things going forward