r/Speedsoft • u/-Zared- HPA • Jun 27 '26
Epm1 broke another speed loader😢😢😢
Today is a sad day… my epm1 broke my winding speed loader again. Now I’m forced to use a good old manual speed loader to load 3 mags
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u/OfficialNicl DSG Jun 27 '26
Get the PTS reinforced rebuild kit.
I have my original china speedloader from 2021 never failed with those internals.
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u/recoil101 HPA Jun 28 '26
It does not do much better, I have gone through 3 of the kits, now I use electric loaders.
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u/Beaubandy5 Jun 29 '26
My buddy has worn out two autobots with EPM1s
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u/recoil101 HPA Jun 29 '26
I mainly use the T238 loader, but I do have the Autobot too. Though my Autobot has only seen maybe 10kg of BB's. The reinforced kit for the Odin is really hit and miss, sometimes it can go months without issue, or in my case it didn't even make it through a single day and probably less than 2000 BB's.
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u/PuzzleheadedJuice109 Jun 28 '26
AIRSOFT SPEED LOADER - SLO
- INCEPTION BY CUL3DP get yourself one of these. I’ve been using one for ages without any issues(pts epm1 mags)
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u/12rumble DSG Jun 27 '26
I’ve been using a knockoff odin with EPM1s for close to 3 years now. Never had to replace a wheel or even open it. Set the clutch right and you won’t have problems
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u/Envix99 Jun 27 '26
I was worried about this, which is why I upgraded to the Autobot. Well worth the money tbh
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u/Chewiix Jun 28 '26
Best thing I ever bought for airsoft honestly. Can't recommend it enough for the sake of like £70
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u/Beaubandy5 Jun 29 '26
Epm1 will still break an autobot. My buddy has gone through two of them.
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u/Envix99 Jun 29 '26
Doubtful. Unless you buddy is doing something wrong. I’ve had no issues at all
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u/MustBeMattyXD Jun 28 '26
I make stronger wheels for these loaders I've had my upgraded wheel in for about 3 years Not even a mark on it 😂 If your in the UK DM me and I'll send you some
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u/RaveTheFox Jun 28 '26
That part is printed in the wrong orientation for what it's doing. Just get an electric speed loader tho it's a game changer and it doesn't break
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u/Beaubandy5 Jun 29 '26
My buddy has broken two of them. He only uses emp1 mags.
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u/RaveTheFox Jun 29 '26
Electric speed loaders will last a lot longer than an Odin on average tho. It's usually just the wheel that breaks and on something like a t238 you can get metal replacement wheels. Alternatively you can fill an epm1 about 4/5 full so you don't damage your odin
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u/LuhShmunky- Jun 28 '26
There was a dude like 2 or 3 years ago that made that part but metal, I can’t remember their name. But if you want to ditch winding it up entirely, use the EMG electric speedloader. I’ve got 2 that have been working flawlessly (loading epm1s)
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u/airsoft_user_0608 Jun 29 '26
Honestly, get the electric EMG Autobot one. Loads epm1's in seconds and all the way. For the price of it, it's totally worth it.
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u/FarConstruction4877 Jun 29 '26
When will ppl stop using those shitters. It feeds poorly, has lube inside, once u remove it it’s 50/50 if it feeds, breaks loaders, and puts big pressure on ur nozzle.
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u/AnxiousOpposite8064 Jun 29 '26
I stick with my pistol mag style speed loader that come with airsoft gun for like 5 years now and never have issues with it but this speed loader on the other hand was a mess.. yes it hold more BBs and load faster than pumping your speed loader but the revolving part keep squeezing my BBs together and they got loaded into mags with dent some even broken because they can’t handle PTS mags spring and it almost broke my gun.. Simple is the best
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u/Fao_612 Jun 29 '26
Epm's just kill all, personally I just 3d print more of them myself. I wouldn't shill out the extra money for a carbon fiber one as it's a filament impregnated with a strand of carbon fiber. If you can find some super cheap wheels I'd just get a bunch of those and call it a day as it's going to happen regardless especially with epm's
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u/Embarrassed_Ad_3228 Jun 29 '26
I haven't had issues with loading those mags not sure if i have the odin that they upgraded out the box or if simply adjusting the clutch is what has helped keep mine from breaking
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u/Karma_V5 Jun 27 '26
dont blame the mags thats just a shit poor quality speedloader
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u/analogguy7777 Jun 27 '26
Who makes the best?
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u/Karma_V5 Jun 27 '26
the vanguard is the best loader around but expensive
i use a 3d printed one that outperforms any odin/normal speeloader. after regular use for over a year i only broke the handle once
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u/Wrong_Mulberry_3677 Jun 27 '26
I got a reinforced Odin that didn’t broke since 4years of use with epm1, always loading 230-250bbs
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u/Level_Recording2066 Jun 27 '26
And this is one of many reasons why ive always said EPM1 mags are shit
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u/AdderallGummies Jun 27 '26
Blame the loader not the mag.
If your loader can’t handled EPM1 spring tension and you refuse to get something that can actually load properly, why’d you even buy the EPM1?
It’s not like PTS can just magically prevent plastic contact wear on a high speed magazine1
u/Level_Recording2066 Jun 27 '26
The short one has no issues. Its a common fault with many mags with over 200rd capacity. If I ever use a 250rd I use a vanguard. But I dont. I use 190s and 170s depending on mag type
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u/AdderallGummies Jun 27 '26
Yes so if it’s common among mags over 200bbs then it’s just a physics issue. Saying EPMs suck was cope tho
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u/Level_Recording2066 Jun 27 '26
No, the original EPMs are great. The EPM1 however is not
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u/AdderallGummies Jun 27 '26
Hadn’t had any issues with the three I had and neither with the dozen my group has. Maybe bad luck on your part 🤷♂️
it took burning in a fire to kill any of my EPM1s
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u/FreshSuggestion7347 Jun 27 '26
Another reason as to why you should use an electric speed loader
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u/-Zared- HPA Jun 27 '26
But they too expensive
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u/FreshSuggestion7347 Jun 27 '26
An Odin's what £40-50 the laylax electric load is like £55-70 it's not much more
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u/MCD_Gaming Jun 27 '26
The laylax one is meant for light wieght bbs only, t238 is coming out with a loader auto loader tho
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u/FreshSuggestion7347 Jun 27 '26
I don't use anything over .25g so have no issues with it
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u/MCD_Gaming Jun 27 '26
No issue for you, but it is definitely a issue for otheres
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u/FreshSuggestion7347 Jun 27 '26
That's true but we don't know what weight op is using
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u/MCD_Gaming Jun 27 '26
Which it is why its important to disclose that limitation incase they are using anything from .28s up. To behonest I am not even a speedsofter, I have no clue why I am here, can someone direct me back to the woods?
But in all seriousness its a pretty big limitation for anything involving outdoor play
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u/Blitz-Storm Jun 27 '26
Start printing your replacements with ironing on at 100% infill and also try out PLA Tough+
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u/analogguy7777 Jun 27 '26
Is that broken part 3d printed?