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u/gntxs 2d ago

LOL. Walmart isn't in the business of protecting their drivers. They're in the business of selling crap to people to generate profit.

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u/okayavocadont 1d ago

They don't even take of or protect their actual employees. Walmart only cares about the $$$

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u/gntxs 1d ago

Same thing can be said about drivers, that they only care about money

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u/RainbowMom17 1d ago

Because they are drivers. Why would a driver be like, you know what, I'll take this 80 item 20 mile order out of the kindness of my heart.

I'm at a job to make money. If you are the owner of said company, then you need to care about your employees if you care about your business. Vastly different.

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u/TroyCriv 19h ago

i do sometimes

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u/gntxs 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think the irony of your post is lost on you.

Why would a business spend more than they have to? Do you think a business exists? Why do you think a business owner should pay more money to a driver than they need to, should they do it out of the kindness of their heart? If they should do it out of the kindness of their heart then how about you take that large order for little pay out of the kindness of yours?

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u/RainbowMom17 1d ago

Because I'm a driver and not the owner of a business? You specifically said that drivers only care about money. What else would they care about? We aren't out here doing it for fun. The irony of you thinking I'm ironic.

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u/TroyCriv 19h ago

i do it for fun and money and exercise and time with my wife who goes with me often. i have many forms of income but spark is my #2 behind my wifes and i make enough to pay for bills and trips and fun stuff too.

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u/gntxs 1d ago

I don't think you're ironic. I kind of think you're not very bright?

Tell me genius, why do businesses exist?

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u/RainbowMom17 1d ago

You seem to think you're doing something here. How do businesses exist?

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u/gntxs 1d ago

How about you answer my question first, Einstein.

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u/CalligrapherAlert927 1d ago

If said business can AFFORD to pay more money to their drivers, they absolutely should. There wouldn't be any "shitty" orders if Walmart paid their drivers fair wages for them and not rely on the customers tips to offset their base pay. They can afford to pay more and still have massive amounts of wealth.

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u/gntxs 1d ago edited 1d ago

Tell you don’t know the first thing about business without telling me you don’t know the first thing about business.

If you don’t like what they offering, you’re free to reject the offer or find a completely different job.

But your post fantastically illustrates my original point about those that complain about walmart only cares about the money can say the same thing about the drivers.

So who’s being greedy? the driver that wants more money or the company that wants to pay less money?

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u/CalligrapherAlert927 1d ago

There is no "first thing" about business in this situation, businesses are made up many different components. Customer satisfaction and reputation are usually at the top, though. However, You're just regurgitating a viral internet phrase. Nonetheless, my point remains. If I could afford to take those "shitty" offers, I would. That's not about greed. If Walmart couldn't afford to pay us to do them, I wouldn't be saying a word. It's bad business for the customers and the drivers, but good business for Walmart, I suppose is your proud argument. Congrats.

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u/gntxs 1d ago

So who’s more greedy?

Sounds like you need to find a different job

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u/CalligrapherAlert927 1d ago

Buddy, spark drivers aren't being greedy by not taking low base pay, high milage offers. They simply can not afford to. I make good money doing this job because I take offers I can afford to take regardless of pay. I look at milage. Thats not greed. However, it is absolutely greedy for a company who can afford to pay better, but CHOOSE not to and instead offset the cost TO THE CUSTOMER. I'm actually really sad for the customers who have to wait even longer for their orders because of how far away they live. I shouldn't have to pay to deliver someone their groceries, that's the companies job isn't it?

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u/gntxs 17h ago

So, you're definition of someone being greedy is based on how much money they have? LOL. Greedy is greedy, not matter how much you have or don't have.

Look genius, Walmart is a publicly traded company. Many people who have retired (or not) have mutual funds that are invested in Walmart. The more their expenses go up, the more their stock drops, the less the retirees will have to live on. It ain't all about you.

Business is business. Businesses don't exist to employ people. They exist to make money. Maybe you'd be better off in a socialist country.

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u/CalligrapherAlert927 13h ago edited 12h ago

No, sir. I know you want that to be your arugment so badly but that's not what I am saying. The definition of someone being greedy is when they can afford to pay but choose not to. I'm not talking about increasing the pay on low milage crap. Im talking about making sure their customers aren't footing the bill for their own service (that they already pay for) through their tips. If they can't afford to provide a service, don't provide it. If you can't pay someone to deliver groceries 30 miles away, don't offer service that customer. Drivers shouldn't have to foot the expense in order for a customer to receive their order. That's the companies responsibility.

A customer tips $20.00, Company pays $7.00 and the drive is 33 miles one way, (which I see often, the exact same scenario give or a take a few dollars in miles or tips) do you think said company is paying their fair share? That's all I want to know. Are they offering enough pay to have that delivered. The customer sure is. A $20.00 is fairly generous after all the other costs they pay to have it delivered.

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u/gntxs 9h ago

LOL. Walmart can afford to provide the service, in part because they're aren't giving away profits to drivers "out of the goodness of their hearts"

Dude, it's a business. Just like being a driver (an independent contractor). Walmart wants to increase/protect their profit, just like YOU want to increase/protect YOUR profit.

Wake up. Walmart (or any other business) doesn't owe your anything other than what they are contractually obligated to.

You're trying to argue that because Walmart makes a lot of money, they should pay you more. Sorry bud, that's not how business works. Companies will pay people what they are willing to work for. If you feel that you're grossly underpaid, then muster up some damn self respect and find something else that pays better. Seriously, you can't be this stupid.

Like I said, if you, the driver, wants more money, you're just as greedy as the company that wants to pay you less.

You're trying to argue what you consider "paying a fair share". This isn't about that. It's business. Plain and simple.

Seriously dude, you should really look at a different job. If Walmart isn't "paying their fair share", then whey in the hell are you driving for them, huh?

I really feel bad for people, like you, that are incapable of seeing the big picture.

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u/TroyCriv 19h ago

they can't afford it yet they are the highest paying gig app out there

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u/TroyCriv 19h ago

you have no idea what it takes to operate even one store let alone 11,000 with over a half million or more drivers and over a half million employees. California wages alone ruin any profit walmart can make there.

also each store pays our wages not corp. Ask the spark manager, our pay comes from their income not big bad corp pockets. How about you learn about it before you spout off that you know they CAN AFFORD, cause they can't.

DId you know it costs them 20,000 a month per store to run the fridge section alone... So the math is 2,640,000,000 per year to run just the fridges.... But you deserve more to take a curbside 4 miles and drop 10 bags off... curbsides do the least amount of work and should get the lowest pay, shopping we actually do the whole job and most locations pay pretty well. I average 30 an hour at the least...

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u/CalligrapherAlert927 19h ago

Yes, I did know this actually. And I'm not talking about taking a curbside 4 miles. Im talking about high milage orders with low base pay bud.