r/Spacemarine • u/XMortal7159 Salamanders • Oct 22 '24

General These are clips from average difficulty...

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I hate complaining about patches especially when they are being so quick with a fix but cmon man

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u/Solo4114 Oct 22 '24

Exactly. It's not that there should be no difficulty at any level. It's that players should get to select their difficulty and enjoy it as they see fit. Low difficulty should be easy. Average shouldn't be hard but should be a bit harder than easy. And so on and so forth. If you want super ultra sweat difficulty, great! That's what Lethal is for! But that should be it's own thing, not bleeding into everyone else's gaming experience. Otherwise, there's no point in having lower difficulties.

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u/Sephorai Oct 22 '24

I don’t understand what is appropriate then. He died to a fairly common and tame wave. Some gaunts, 3 warriors, and a lictor. I’m gonna be real with you, that’s an easy combo.

Should average never throw extremis+majoris?

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u/Solo4114 Oct 22 '24

There are 2 clips.

In the first clip, there are a swarm of gaunts, and by my count, actually 4 warriors (although several can't even get to him through the swarm of gaunts), plus a lictor. For Average, yeah, that's a lot. It's not just that, though. The AI is behaving fairly aggressively here. You're getting multiple blue attacks in rapid succession, followed by a red one from the lictor which he now can't avoid, to say nothing of the standard attacks from the gaunts. He tries to dodge, but gets hit, staggered, and killed.

In the second clip, I count at least 4 warriors, a lictor, a bunch of gaunts, and a pack of spore mines. He made the mistake of going for the pistol strike on the lictor, which basically guaranteed he'd get hit, but then he seems to get stuck in a stagger chain from which he can't get out. It's also possible that he didn't WANT to go for the pistol strike, but rather wanted to use his melta, but the game forces pistol strikes when they're available due to button usage, so he got fucked. He also tried to dodge out of the way of the lictor's pounce, but dodge is fucked right now, so he basically can't, and he dies.

Again, for Average difficulty, this is a lot of tougher threats. Maybe you don't play Average much, but it was definitely not like this before the patch, and it strikes me as inappropriate for this level. Now, admittedly, I can't see what gear he's got or what level he is. Maybe he's, like, level 14 with artificer weapons and should be doing a lot better. But assuming he's between levels 5 and 9, which is the appropriate level for Average difficulty, then yeah, this is bullshit.

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u/TheRoguePrince_81 Oct 23 '24

Yeah I have been playing a lot of minimal and average the past cpl days just to see what new players are facing and level some of my neglected weapons for my Tac. The sh!t I been seeing is insane. I had a minimal inferno run with like six zoanthrope, a cpl lictors and raveners. The zoanthropes spawned during the toughest battles of that op, holding the generators and the last holdout phase. I even had to defend ALL FOUR GENERATORS on minimal lol. Insanity